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'Something must happen so that this doesn't happen again.' - Reverend Al Sharpton (Original Post) onehandle Apr 2012 OP
Overturning a law prevents something that's illegal from happening again? nt TheWraith Apr 2012 #1
In this case, it would outlaw legalized murder meow2u3 Apr 2012 #2
No, it's not, as anyone knows... TheWraith Apr 2012 #4
Do you have evidence that suggests Zimmerman was even aware of SYG before he fired? Kurska Apr 2012 #3
Sharpton says that's next.. they're going after SYG. n/t K Gardner Apr 2012 #5
While it's a different topic, the quote is appropriate to this: theaocp Apr 2012 #6
i agree chknltl Apr 2012 #7
You may suggest anything, but SYG has nothing to do with this ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2012 #8
So what would you put in their place? badtoworse Apr 2012 #9
Reverend Al is Right unionworks Apr 2012 #10
Indeed something needs to happen guitar man Apr 2012 #11

meow2u3

(24,774 posts)
2. In this case, it would outlaw legalized murder
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 07:01 PM
Apr 2012

Stand your ground = shoot first, ask questions months later.

TheWraith

(24,331 posts)
4. No, it's not, as anyone knows...
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 07:14 PM
Apr 2012

...if they've bothered to listen to more than alarmist talking heads on TV.

Kurska

(5,739 posts)
3. Do you have evidence that suggests Zimmerman was even aware of SYG before he fired?
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 07:07 PM
Apr 2012

He claimed that defense weeks after the fact I believe, but how can you really say that without the law Trayvon would still be alive?

Overreach much?

theaocp

(4,245 posts)
6. While it's a different topic, the quote is appropriate to this:
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 07:29 PM
Apr 2012

I think we should also have held banksters and war criminals accountable so their crimes don't happen again. Too bad we "had" to look forward, not backward. Our apathy covers more crimes than we know.

chknltl

(10,558 posts)
7. i agree
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 07:46 PM
Apr 2012

The nation is focused on this case, let the nation continue to focus in this area by debating the pros and cons of stand your ground including its history and results.

I am reminded of Germany as the war ended and the citizens local to the death camps were forced to view a reality they strongly wanted to pretend never occurred. I say our nation needs to see our realty, the who, where and why's of the stand your ground law, who is ALEC and what is their involvement, why was the right wing so rabidly pro zimmerman, what about the many many other stand your ground cases, and most importantly, how does racism figure in to all of this.

The right wing and their corporatists puppeteers are watching in horror as a bright spotlight is aimed right at their ugly paradigm. The very last thing they would want is for that spotlight to look deeper. Jefferson said that democracy REQUIRES an enlightened electorate, with an election looming a national review of the stand your ground law would be VERY ENLIGHTENING.



 

badtoworse

(5,957 posts)
9. So what would you put in their place?
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 08:23 PM
Apr 2012

And why do you believe it would have prevented what happened to Trayvon?

 

unionworks

(3,574 posts)
10. Reverend Al is Right
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 08:34 PM
Apr 2012

But God why do we have to be like this? We are not born racist. If you take black kids and white kids who have never been exposed to racism, give them toys and put them in a room together, they will play together and become friends. They will notice each others differences, and once noted they will move on and continue playing. I HAVE SEEN THIS WITH MY OWN EYES. WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH US???

guitar man

(15,996 posts)
11. Indeed something needs to happen
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 08:47 PM
Apr 2012

We need to have a frank national discussion about wealth,privelege, power, connections, influence....etc etc

IMO the real culprit here is all of the above. It appears GZs federal judge daddy was able to use his influence and connections to pull his ass out of the fire more than once. GZ was emboldened by a sense of impunity, like nothing could happen to him, there would be no consequences for his actions because daddy could clean it all up for him.

Seems we had another George in this country with the same kind of daddy. The resultant tragedy from that was on a much larger scale and unfortunately, there will be no justice for those countless victims

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