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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhy the 1 Percent Absolutely Has No Clue About the Need to Raise Wages
http://www.alternet.org/corporate-accountability-and-workplace/why-1-percent-absolutely-has-no-clue-about-need-raise-wagesAs fast food workers are walked out Thursday yet again for higher wages and the right to union representation, they could count some lawmakers and President Obama as being on their side, verbally championing a higher federal minimum wage. And they have the support of a majority of Americans.
But when it comes to corporate decision makers such as those represented by the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, they face hostility and ridicule. In fact, as a recent personal experience demonstrated to me, the wealthiest Americans who control the purse strings of corporate America may actually believe the lie that raising wages is unnecessary and that todays workers are better off than in the past.
A college friend who works as a business executive was passing through Los Angeles, where I live, and invited me to join him for drinks at a restaurant in downtown L.A. so we could catch up. When I arrived, he was still having dinner with some of his work colleagues. Indicating to me that they squarely fit into the category of the famed 1 percent, he introduced me as his radical journalist and activist friend. Aside from me and my friend, there were two white men, one black man and an East Asian woman seated at the table. The restaurant was exceedingly fancy, and the menu consisted of sufficiently haute cuisine dishes, with prices to match. Bottles of expensive wine washed down platters of soft-shell crab, all on the company card.
Soon enough, the conversation veered into a political direction as the men (sadly, the woman didnt speak up), lamented President Obamas fiscal policies, which they perceived as excessively harsh toward the rich.
Laelth
(32,017 posts)-Laelth
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)strawberries
(498 posts)have a clue about the "real" world. They don't have to. I once dated a man who was divorced from an extremely wealthy woman. Her parents came to this country because they didn't want to pay the high taxes of Canada. (I am going back 50 years ago when her parents made the move)
The way he described his ex was, and I paraphrase, why cross the street and take a chance of getting hit by a car if you don't have to.
Initially I didn't understand, but as I watched her raise their children everything was private. They were never put in harms way and always treated special in any events they were part of. They are all grown up now. Unfortunately they have no idea of poor people. They are thankful Michael Brown is no longer with us as he was a "boogie man". They see police as their servants of protection.
How could the connect with the real world since they never lived in the real world is the only point I am trying to make here
Laelth
(32,017 posts)-Laelth
discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,481 posts)...how about restructuring the SS tax so that the first $50,000 of wages has no tax and do away with the regressive $114,000 wage ceiling? The rich can pay that on everything they earn over $50,000 without a limit.
Currently if your wages are near $300/week (minimum wage) you pay about $19 in SS taxes. That remains linear up to about $2200/week at 6.2%. If you earn $3500/week, you pay about $136/week at an effective 3.9%. If you earn $10,000/week, you pay about $136/week at at an effective 1.4%. It gets worse. If your income is mainly from investments and you earn little or no wages, you don't pay SS tax at all.
It just seems wrong to me.
TBF
(32,084 posts)they don't get it and never will. They think they "deserve" what they've been blessed with - whether it is through inheritance or cheating others in the workplace (whether the cheating is considered legal or not - as in the case with the rigged stock market).
tiredtoo
(2,949 posts)Didn't their parents teach them better?
Or is there such a strong tendency toward sociopathy (or whatever we're calling it these days, those terms change) among the extremely wealthy that they don't even understand that others need money to live as well?
Or maybe it is simply that they are totally unaware of what basics of life cost, having never (or not in a long time) had to pay for such things on their own with a limited budget.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)thinking. Our only hope is to find some capitalists that recognize that killing the goose will kill us all. We can't survive w/o help from the elite.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)rock
(13,218 posts)Greed is concrete and immediate; good planning generally leads to long-term plans. Now here's an example. I don't remember all the details but IBM starting in the early 70's had a long-term goal of a (as I recall) 90 billion in revenue by 1990. And throughout the 70's and early 80's they were going great guns (they were really booming). Now if you think about this scenario long enough you may detect a serious flaw with this plan. That's right, as 1990 drew near, this goal became short term. IBM did not realize what was happening until it became too late. To recap, in the early years of this period they were making long-term decisions and doing well. As time went along and they neared their goal date without any change on their part they found themselves making short-term decisions and disaster ensued. They lost billions in profit and reputation as well and never did recover to their original promise. OK, I'll stop boring you now.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)When inequality reaches this level, either the elite figure out they need to balance things to save their necks, or they don't.
If they don't, the poor eliminate the elite. The revolution is bloody and there are lots of innocent victims. But generally the non-elite survive.
(And a new elite rise to replace the old elite. And they eventually build up inequality to the point where the cycle repeats)
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)alfredo
(60,075 posts)We should treat them in kind.
JHB
(37,161 posts)One of the reasons for the cluelessness (and not just for the 1%): how often do people emphasize just how different the way things are now to how they were in the not-too-distant past?
Remember the debate adding another tax bracket above $250K? How that was "socialism" and "punishing success"?
Here's a chart showing the number of tax brackets over the history of the income tax.
The overall total number of brackets is the green dashed line.
The blue line is the number of brackets affecting incomes over $250K (adjusted to 2013 dollars)
The red line is the number of brackets affecting incomes over $500K (adjusted to 2013 dollars)
Here's the same thing expressed as percentages of the total number of brackets:
Even leaving aside what the rates were as a separate question, all of the progressivity in the income tax code has been pushed downward. In the 50s fully two thirds of income tax brackets kicked in above the equivalent of $250,000, and nearly half kicked in at levels above the equivalent of a half million.
A lot of that erosion was due to inflation -- brackets were not inflation-adjusted until the 80s -- but the net effect has been eliminating progressivity at high levels. You'll notice that when the top marginal rates were lowered under Reagan, there was no resetting the progressivity to previous levels.