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Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 10:13 PM Apr 2012

Do I suck because I think Mark O'Mara sounds like a good attorney?

Seriously, I think Zimmerman is guilty of SOMETHING (all the facts aren't out) and I'm glad Zimmerman has been charged with 2nd degree murder.

Search my posts. You can easily see this.

That said, I appreciate O'Mara for being reasonable, kind and presentable.

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Do I suck because I think Mark O'Mara sounds like a good attorney? (Original Post) Fawke Em Apr 2012 OP
I thought so, too got root Apr 2012 #1
No, I think Zimmerman has a good attorney XanaDUer Apr 2012 #2
Every defendant deserves a decent lawyer. amandabeech Apr 2012 #3
Yes. n/t pnwmom Apr 2012 #11
As a firm believer in actual justice, mzmolly Apr 2012 #4
No, dear 'Fawke,' you're right, elleng Apr 2012 #5
I was impressed. tabatha Apr 2012 #6
Yeah, I was surprised. Likeable, calm, reasonable sounding fella. Honeycombe8 Apr 2012 #7
Well, if thinking O'Mara seems quite competent then... Spazito Apr 2012 #8
Absolutely not ! I just saw him with Lawrence and it was so refreshing to see a K Gardner Apr 2012 #9
I cut my teeth covering court as a reporter. Fawke Em Apr 2012 #10
LOL. According to this OP in LBN RZM Apr 2012 #12
He served as a legal Fawke Em Apr 2012 #14
I think the point RZM Apr 2012 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author Fawke Em Apr 2012 #18
Sorry if I wasn't more clear. I was talking about the OP in LBN n/t RZM Apr 2012 #19
I just now figured that out and deleted my post. Fawke Em Apr 2012 #20
That's almost the most humiliating OP I've ever seen on DU. Wow. n/t K Gardner Apr 2012 #21
Mark O'Mara H2O Man Apr 2012 #13
Heh! Fawke Em Apr 2012 #17
Ha! H2O Man Apr 2012 #25
H2O, I'd love to see mzmolly Apr 2012 #30
Well, let me see ..... H2O Man Apr 2012 #31
:) mzmolly Apr 2012 #32
I want him to have competant representation... ellisonz Apr 2012 #15
If you suck . . . . . . Stinky The Clown Apr 2012 #22
Isn't it so much better, now? Fawke Em Apr 2012 #26
Apparently, I'm in good company. Fawke Em Apr 2012 #23
He sounded better than the yahoo's that spoke yesterday. Justice wanted Apr 2012 #24
I too am glad he has good representation. If arthritisR_US Apr 2012 #27
I want to focus my anger where it belongs... Kalidurga Apr 2012 #28
Did Hannity connect them? ecstatic Apr 2012 #29
he comes off more likable while those 2 others came off as offensive whores JI7 Apr 2012 #33

XanaDUer

(12,939 posts)
2. No, I think Zimmerman has a good attorney
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 10:14 PM
Apr 2012

He, unlike the first lawyer, went on Lawrence O'Donnell just now, as well. LO was polite and appreciative.

 

amandabeech

(9,893 posts)
3. Every defendant deserves a decent lawyer.
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 10:16 PM
Apr 2012

Bad lawyers screw up and don't give their clients a chance for a fair trial, and believe me, judges appreciate a competent lawyer.

Don't feel bad for liking our system of justice.

mzmolly

(51,004 posts)
4. As a firm believer in actual justice,
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 10:16 PM
Apr 2012

Last edited Thu Apr 12, 2012, 01:49 AM - Edit history (1)

I'm glad he has a good attorney. I believe he'll need one.

tabatha

(18,795 posts)
6. I was impressed.
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 10:17 PM
Apr 2012

Especially in comparison to the two previous jokes.

Mark O'Mara will not leak any evidence to the court of public opinion.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
7. Yeah, I was surprised. Likeable, calm, reasonable sounding fella.
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 10:18 PM
Apr 2012

I work for lawyers, so maybe I see them differently. To me, they're just people doing a job.

I've heard defense attorneys explain having to represent people who may be guilty, as they are defending the laws. Without defense attorneys to scrutinize procedures and actions, the police and other authorities would have no accountability, and we would soon lose our civil rights.

Spazito

(50,477 posts)
8. Well, if thinking O'Mara seems quite competent then...
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 10:18 PM
Apr 2012

there are at least two of us guilty of the 'charge' of being sucky. I was impressed by him in his press conference and actually relieved to see that because I believe Zimmerman murdered Trayvon Martin and would loathe to see him get away with it due to having incompetent representation. The two yahoos who claimed to have represented him previously seemed to be the antithesis of Mr. O'Mara, imo.

K Gardner

(14,933 posts)
9. Absolutely not ! I just saw him with Lawrence and it was so refreshing to see a
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 10:19 PM
Apr 2012

professional, seemingly very caring human being. I totally agree and am SO glad he's not a shill.

Zimmerman is still entitled to the best defense. And I think this guy will give it to him while at the same time not providing a freakout circus atmosphere.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
10. I cut my teeth covering court as a reporter.
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 10:21 PM
Apr 2012

I would have LOVED to deal with O'Mara or Corey.

Both seem so much more adult than anyone else I've seen investigating this.


Thanks so much, everyone, for appreciating and supporting our justice system, which is all "us Trayvon supporter" ever wanted.

:hugs:

 

RZM

(8,556 posts)
12. LOL. According to this OP in LBN
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 10:26 PM
Apr 2012

You're supposed to boycott the TV station he appears on until they fire him and apologize. As for what they (or he?) are supposed to apologize for, I'm not quite sure.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/101495643

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
14. He served as a legal
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 10:28 PM
Apr 2012

analyst, locally, for the Casey Anthony case.

I guess that makes him boycott-able.

 

RZM

(8,556 posts)
16. I think the point
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 10:31 PM
Apr 2012

Is that the OP is attempting to argue O'Mara and the station should suffer consequences for him taking the case. As you can see in the thread, DU heartily disagrees.

Response to RZM (Reply #16)

H2O Man

(73,621 posts)
13. Mark O'Mara
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 10:28 PM
Apr 2012

is exactly the right attorney for this case -- both for the defendant and for the public.

Not knowing you, I can't comment on if you suck or not; however, if you do, it is not due to recognizing a talented attorney!

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
17. Heh!
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 10:34 PM
Apr 2012

I covered attorneys for years. I don't want to like O'Mara because of Zimmerman's constant excuses, but I do find him infinitely more confident that those last two jokers he had.

So, yea, I may suck sometimes, but I do know good attorneys. LOL.

H2O Man

(73,621 posts)
25. Ha!
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 10:46 PM
Apr 2012

I, too, had hopes of despising anyone representing Zimmerman.

But -- as I think you will agree -- there is the potential for much more gain, and not just in this legal contest, in having talented, good people as prosecutors and defense attorneys. I do understand, appreciate, and indeed share the outrage over the murder of a teenager who was minding his own business. But the level of hatred in our society is beyond the saturation point. This case could lead to more violence.

In 1998, in the trial of a racist hate gang that savagely attacked my teenaged nephew, leaving him for dead, there were teenagers and even adults who said the courts would not produce justice .... and calls for retaliation. I was assigned as the family spokesperson to the media. I called for an organized, non-violent response. I attended every court hearing -- as did hundreds of supporters from the local community and two branches of the NAACP. Although justice was not found in the court, we used the situation for public education on racism, hatred, and violence. I've never second-guessed myself on that.

mzmolly

(51,004 posts)
30. H2O, I'd love to see
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 01:51 AM
Apr 2012

you in action on video tape. Though, I'm very sorry about your nephew being attacked.

H2O Man

(73,621 posts)
31. Well, let me see .....
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 07:06 AM
Apr 2012

I have a friend in a "newsroom" at an area tv station. He was amonng the reporters outside the courtroom back in '98, when one of the defense attorneys tried to play me for the cameras. He was, for many years, considered the toughest, most aggressive defense attorney in the region.

But it was his error in judgement. That night on the news -- and in a high-light that followed frequently -- a smiling, apparently friendly and polite H2O Man faced a ranting, arm-waving, out-of-control mad man. By the time he regained control -- way to late.

It led to other poor behavioral choices by this fellow, which would be documented in county court. Another story, though very closely related.

I'll see if my friend can post that clip for DUers to see. I have it on a couple of old VCR tapes; the station likely has greater technology. And, if he can, I will let you know the Malcolm X - inspired quote I said to him, that resulted in his freaking out.

Stinky The Clown

(67,819 posts)
22. If you suck . . . . . .
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 10:42 PM
Apr 2012

. . . . . . then so do I.

Yes, he sounds reasonable and competent, murder case experience, including death penalty cases. And most of all, empathy forhe victim and those close to the victim.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
26. Isn't it so much better, now?
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 10:47 PM
Apr 2012

Zimmerman's been charged. He's going to have his day in court.

Corey is reasonable

O'Mara is reasonable.

The victims left - Trayvon's parents and brother - have always been reasonable.

Why wasn't this done to begin with?

Then my son wouldn't have had to hear that hoodies make him a gang member or that he can't walk with (his equivalent) Reese's cups and Coke Zero...

Empathy is felt... not learned. I also hug O'Mara. He's got a helluva hard job.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
23. Apparently, I'm in good company.
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 10:44 PM
Apr 2012

Mark Thompson pretty much said what I said - what we have all said - in these posts.

Justice means we ALL get our day.

arthritisR_US

(7,292 posts)
27. I too am glad he has good representation. If
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 10:52 PM
Apr 2012

he looses I certainly don't want the verdict questioned or overturned because of poor defense council.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
28. I want to focus my anger where it belongs...
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 11:48 PM
Apr 2012

On Zimmerman and who ever it was that initially decided he should be let go without being charged. I really don't have room to hate a couple of Bozo attorneys as well. So, I am glad he got a respectable lawyer, it will actually make the trial easier to prosecute. Lawyers that don't know what they are doing inevitably tell a whole lot of stories that make no sense and rebutting them is like trying to nail jello to a tree. Anyone that has ever argued with a borderline crazy person, knows what I am talking about.

ecstatic

(32,731 posts)
29. Did Hannity connect them?
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 01:17 AM
Apr 2012

I wonder how they made the decision to switch to him. Yeah, he sounds reasonable, but he's just a gifted snake oilman.

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