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Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
Wed Sep 10, 2014, 05:30 PM Sep 2014

It's Official...Americans are dumber than a box of rocks and easily scared shitless by the media

Looks like the media's warmongering has been extremely effective:



http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/first-read/isis-threat-fear-terror-attack-soars-9-11-high-nbc-n199496

ISIS Threat: Fear of Terror Attack Soars to 9/11 High, NBC News/WSJ Poll Finds

The nation is on edge in the wake of brutal beheadings of journalists by Islamic extremists — with more Americans saying the United States is less safe now than at any point since 9/11, a new NBC News/Wall Street Journal Poll shows.

The exclusive poll reveals that 47% of Americans believe the country is less safe now than before the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. That’s a significant increase from even a year after the twin towers fell when in September 2002 just 20% of the country said the nation was less safe. The level of fear across America also is up substantially from last year when 28% felt the same way.

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The new poll also found that more than six in 10 respondents believe that taking military action against the Islamic militant group ISIS is in the nation’s interest.

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It's Official...Americans are dumber than a box of rocks and easily scared shitless by the media (Original Post) Cali_Democrat Sep 2014 OP
yeah, we get criticism for saying this sometimes but people are easily fooled even after Bush JI7 Sep 2014 #1
And repubs on TV have been saying "Obama made us less safe!" since 2009. arcane1 Sep 2014 #11
When a group starts telling a lie, and repeats it and repeats it sooner or later people are Louisiana1976 Sep 2014 #18
I think ISIS is a problem that needs to be addressed, but I don't feel less safe because of them. conservaphobe Sep 2014 #2
TerrorVision. CJCRANE Sep 2014 #3
+ 1. I like that! lunasun Sep 2014 #22
And they vote ...... shudder ....... nt kelly1mm Sep 2014 #4
And own guns ... shudder ... nt rock Sep 2014 #34
I feel way more safe since 9/11. I don't care for all of the patriot act, but I think TPTB are RKP5637 Sep 2014 #5
Same here. Louisiana1976 Sep 2014 #19
And yet, if just one of these guys were successful, Skidmore Sep 2014 #6
therein lies the crux of the problem ProdigalJunkMail Sep 2014 #13
That funky drum beat, obxhead Sep 2014 #7
I can't help but wonder Awknid Sep 2014 #8
News flash, Americans: world wide wally Sep 2014 #9
Excellent points. Louisiana1976 Sep 2014 #23
Dumb people like Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders? brooklynite Sep 2014 #10
Did you ever give us a run-down of how your meeting with Elizabeth Warren went? Laelth Sep 2014 #12
Sorry - was out of town for the weekend. brooklynite Sep 2014 #15
Excellent. Thanks. Laelth Sep 2014 #16
Americans have become a soft, stupid people. Well deserving of the blowback Katashi_itto Sep 2014 #14
Absolutely. Scared to death of their own shadow. Not capable of examining a situation and... BlueJazz Sep 2014 #21
Yep, all I do anymore is work on my company and plan an escape from the U.S. Katashi_itto Sep 2014 #25
Careful the other 5% might try to kill you ( for shouting "boo") justified by them of course lunasun Sep 2014 #27
What you say is probably true. BlueJazz Sep 2014 #28
I blame the stenographers calling themselves reporters DJ13 Sep 2014 #17
Plus ISIS's, as seen on the TV, main weapons are pick up trucks and small arms underpants Sep 2014 #32
Boy, people are dumb. hifiguy Sep 2014 #20
AS you so aptly prove! whistler162 Sep 2014 #24
I think I saw a poll that said twice as many people think the cons are better randys1 Sep 2014 #26
Americans buy cars based on commercials showing them driving down the Pacific Coast Highway underpants Sep 2014 #29
all the enemy has to do to get us to invade is behead a couple people NightWatcher Sep 2014 #30
9/11 wasn't even that bad when compared to other things. ZombieHorde Sep 2014 #31
President Obama has been cautious thus far rbrnmw Sep 2014 #33
 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
11. And repubs on TV have been saying "Obama made us less safe!" since 2009.
Wed Sep 10, 2014, 05:55 PM
Sep 2014

I imagine that starts to sink in to the brains of people after a while.

Louisiana1976

(3,962 posts)
18. When a group starts telling a lie, and repeats it and repeats it sooner or later people are
Wed Sep 10, 2014, 06:29 PM
Sep 2014

going to believe it.

 

conservaphobe

(1,284 posts)
2. I think ISIS is a problem that needs to be addressed, but I don't feel less safe because of them.
Wed Sep 10, 2014, 05:32 PM
Sep 2014

Not at all.

We're a nation of:

RKP5637

(67,111 posts)
5. I feel way more safe since 9/11. I don't care for all of the patriot act, but I think TPTB are
Wed Sep 10, 2014, 05:40 PM
Sep 2014

far more aware that shit can happen, that we are not isolated. ISIS has not changed my view at all. I think the American populace gets torqued up too easily. And as another poster said, we have "TerrorVision."

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
6. And yet, if just one of these guys were successful,
Wed Sep 10, 2014, 05:40 PM
Sep 2014

the very same people would be yelling MIHOP or LIHOP again. Funny how that works. I don't think ISIL is an immediate threat but I'm not naive enough to think that they are no threat at all.

ProdigalJunkMail

(12,017 posts)
13. therein lies the crux of the problem
Wed Sep 10, 2014, 06:00 PM
Sep 2014

people for some damned reason or other can't seem to see the very statement that you make, "I don't think ISIL is an immediate threat but I'm not naive enough to think that they are no threat at all" as reality or even plausible. ISI(S/L) either have to be the ultimate boogey men capable of ending all life as we know it or they have to be completely benign like a hypoallergenic kitten. There can be no middle ground... it's NUTZ, I tell ya... nutz.

sP

 

obxhead

(8,434 posts)
7. That funky drum beat,
Wed Sep 10, 2014, 05:42 PM
Sep 2014

we just can't help ourselves and must dance to the rhythm.

Hope and change gets another flushing sound for its soundtrack.

Awknid

(381 posts)
8. I can't help but wonder
Wed Sep 10, 2014, 05:43 PM
Sep 2014

Who this poll asked. Fox News watchers? Or perhaps it's how the questions were posed. Somehow I think the WSJ is very happy with the results. Anyway, I find it very hard to believe that most Americans want to go back to war in the Middle East!

world wide wally

(21,745 posts)
9. News flash, Americans:
Wed Sep 10, 2014, 05:45 PM
Sep 2014

Any of the following things are more likely to happen than you getting killed in a terrorist aettck;

You are more likely to get struck by lightning,
Killed by a shark
Hit by a car while crossing the street,
Dying in some other kind of a car accident,
Shot by accident,
Shot on purpose,
Contract Ebola,
Drown in a swimming pool, or
Drown in your bathtub.

So, you better just better hide in corner and not come out till we get "terror level: green"

See ya

brooklynite

(94,608 posts)
10. Dumb people like Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders?
Wed Sep 10, 2014, 05:53 PM
Sep 2014

Sanders: "ISIS is a danger to the entire region and to the world. The international community must work with the U.S.”

Warren: "ISIS is growing in strength. It has money, it has organization, it has the capacity to inflict real damage. So when we think about a response we have to think about how to destroy that,"

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
12. Did you ever give us a run-down of how your meeting with Elizabeth Warren went?
Wed Sep 10, 2014, 05:58 PM
Sep 2014

If you did, I missed it, but I am quite curious.



-Laelth

brooklynite

(94,608 posts)
15. Sorry - was out of town for the weekend.
Wed Sep 10, 2014, 06:06 PM
Sep 2014

12 of us met her for lunch, in support of Michelle Nunn and Bruce Braley. Discussion involved reforming school loan policies (her view is that if we can get a bill out of the Senate, it will be hard for Republicans to argue against reform); the Middle East/ISIS situation (cautious but understands the need for a response); holding bank management responsible for the fiscal downturn (she understands but doesn't think there's a practical way to go after them); and Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac reform (thinks the current rules support addressing the problem of larger mortgage holders over poorer ones who effectively lose all home value).

And, as I said, still not running for President.

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
16. Excellent. Thanks.
Wed Sep 10, 2014, 06:10 PM
Sep 2014

I hope she's right about the Republicans in the House feeling compelled to back student loan reform, but I have my doubts. For that matter, I fear there are too many Democrats in the Senate who would vote against anything that might hurt the financial sector, but Elizabeth Warren is the best person we have to pursue this matter, and I wish her well.

-Laelth

 

Katashi_itto

(10,175 posts)
14. Americans have become a soft, stupid people. Well deserving of the blowback
Wed Sep 10, 2014, 06:03 PM
Sep 2014

that's coming.

I am genuinely ashamed of my country.

 

BlueJazz

(25,348 posts)
21. Absolutely. Scared to death of their own shadow. Not capable of examining a situation and...
Wed Sep 10, 2014, 06:34 PM
Sep 2014

... evaluating the probable risk and outcome.

I swear, I think you could walk into a store, shout "Boooo" and 95% of the people would run screaming for their car.

Geeez..

DJ13

(23,671 posts)
17. I blame the stenographers calling themselves reporters
Wed Sep 10, 2014, 06:21 PM
Sep 2014

Instead of giving the MIC corporate propaganda word for word they should define the actual size of the threat ISIS poses, that their numbers are far smaller than we are led to believe.

underpants

(182,837 posts)
32. Plus ISIS's, as seen on the TV, main weapons are pick up trucks and small arms
Wed Sep 10, 2014, 07:04 PM
Sep 2014

Mostly rifles with some mounted automatic weapons. Oh and knives.

Now with their Saudi funding (9/11 only cost $750k) they could upgrade but that is a big sudden jump.

randys1

(16,286 posts)
26. I think I saw a poll that said twice as many people think the cons are better
Wed Sep 10, 2014, 06:45 PM
Sep 2014

at natl security than the adults.

Jesus , people why are you so god damn dumb?

underpants

(182,837 posts)
29. Americans buy cars based on commercials showing them driving down the Pacific Coast Highway
Wed Sep 10, 2014, 06:56 PM
Sep 2014

Sunny day. Pearly white smile. Wind whipping through their hair. Beautiful member if opposite sex beside them.

They see this from their comfy chair that they return directly to every single day.

They have the picture of someone getting their cut off painted for them endlessly and they think, "My God! That COULD happen to ME!"

This poll looks like it was done to coincide with the re-writing of the W story. The press loves them some W exploiting 3,000 who burned to death that day.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
30. all the enemy has to do to get us to invade is behead a couple people
Wed Sep 10, 2014, 06:58 PM
Sep 2014

Last time it was Nick Berg, this time it was two kidnapped journos and BOOM, we're ready for another war. Could we be more easily duped into war? I doubt it.

ISIS is a joke, started by a guy who came late to the game and couldn't fight in the Mujahideen and didn't get along with the original Al Qaeda, so he started his own group of a few rag tag leftovers, but now they have been given credibility as a legitimate boogieman that we will throw billions of dollars of bombs and soldiers at. Why, because they kidnapped (or bought) two journalists and we're so outraged that we're hard on for another war.

This shit is getting damned repetitive with predictable outcomes. My friends and family who are serving in the armed forces are running out of room on their uniforms because of all the campaign medals and ribbons.

I was against the last two wars, against this one, and will be against the next one and the one after that.

Fuck it all to hell

ZombieHorde

(29,047 posts)
31. 9/11 wasn't even that bad when compared to other things.
Wed Sep 10, 2014, 07:01 PM
Sep 2014

Before Obamacare, there were way more deaths from lack of insurance each year than 9/11. The deaths from our response to 9/11 were much greater than 9/11.

I know I'm supposed to think 9/11 was the worst and scariest thing evah, but I don't.

rbrnmw

(7,160 posts)
33. President Obama has been cautious thus far
Wed Sep 10, 2014, 07:12 PM
Sep 2014

I trust him He has intelligence information we don't I don't claim to know the answer to this situation. That being said I also hope we don't send boots on the ground.

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