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(99,698 posts)That ass hat Senator is unstable.
kelliekat44
(7,759 posts)"The Fantasy of a Residual Force in Iraq
One of the comments I frequently hear is that the Obama Administration should somehow have convinced the Maliki government to enter into a new status of forced agreement that would have kept a residual U.S. force in place in Iraq for years, perhaps forever, with the express or implied argument that such a residual force would have somehow overcome sectarian tensions within the country and prevented a renewed civil war. Many of those making the argument fail to mention the fact that the withdrawal date that was followed by President Obama was negotiated by President Bush. I appreciate Tom Ricks' position on a residual force, specifically that although he had thought it would have been a good idea at the time, if possible, in retrospect it would have been a costly mistake -- with the present sectarian warfare, U.S. forces would have required significant reinforcement, or would have had to withdraw from combat, with either of those outcomes being worse for the U.S. than leaving the conflict to the incompetent hands of the Iraqi army.
At the time the Obama Administration was attempting to negotiate a new status of forces agreement, the American public didn't want to keep combat troops in Iraq, the Iraqi public didn't want our forces there, and the Maliki government also wanted the U.S. out."
RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)Just give him a rifle and a one way plane ticket!
Mission accomplished!
So he can make statements and sign documents for the enemy, like he's already done!!!
RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)come back in a box!
Sheesh, do I have to spell it out?
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)Marie Marie
(9,999 posts)Palin! 'Nuff said.
progressoid
(49,996 posts)It was likely stupid so, yeah, fuck him.
Beaverhausen
(24,470 posts)Fuck him
Cleita
(75,480 posts)That would be an undesirable experience on so many levels.
LuvNewcastle
(16,855 posts)#2 I think he's in the advanced stages of syphilis. That would explain his behavior.
treestar
(82,383 posts)And older.
killbotfactory
(13,566 posts)Shit was going to go down regardless of when we left.
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Imagine Prez McCain and VP Palin....
madamesilverspurs
(15,806 posts)John McCain ---
Graduated at the bottom of his class at Annapolis.
Lousy pilot, crashed how many planes?
Hot-shot antics injured how many fellow servicemen?
Shot down (that does suck), became POW (also sucks),
came home as result of prisoner exchange.
And he's considered a military EXPERT???
ChisolmTrailDem
(9,463 posts)jillan
(39,451 posts)I was too busy screaming at my tv for Msnbc having him on.... but I swear I thought I heard him say that.
elleng
(131,073 posts)and a lot of other bs, jillan. I don't think I'll look at it again.
but I did catch a bit of him chastising Jay Carney on CNN (My finger slipped, I never watch it) for not knowing what he (Carney) was saying. Have a drink first, if you try to go there. I'm @ classical arts now.
jillan
(39,451 posts)Here - I'll join you...
There's no one to call him on it, and when Carney tried to, mccain just talked over him.
jillan
(39,451 posts)I hope Carney's ok, and cnn supports him.
moondust
(20,002 posts)Trying to cover their incompetent, belligerent asses for their Iraq debacle that was perhaps the biggest mistake in the history of U.S. foreign policy. Johnny Wargrubber even claims "WE WON" the war in Iraq.
JEB
(4,748 posts)5 lost planes Reverse Ace McCain.
AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)The way he talked to Carney on CNN was beyond the pale, like he was yelling at home to get off his lawn.
Cha
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What Jay Carney was thinking:
'Oh, shut up, you rambling, bitter, irrelevant, deranged, senile, war-hungry dick.'
3:45 PM - 10 Sep 2014 120 Retweets 89 favorites
http://theobamadiary.com/2014/09/10/president-obama-addresses-the-nation-on-isil/#comments
Thank you, ellen.. somebody had to say it!