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On the big screen above, Greenwald's famous source, NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden, was beamed in live from Moscow, while fellow fugitive Julian Assange peered from a screen beside him, also beamed in live but this time from the Ecuadorian embassy in London.
All were given thundering ovations from a crowd who, five days away from New Zealand's general election, were energised by articles published hours earlier by Greenwald and Snowden alleging mass surveillance in New Zealand and duplicity on the part of the prime minister, John Key.
Greenwald, whose arrival in New Zealand on Friday ignited another powder keg in an already explosive election campaign, began by marvelling at the criticisms he has faced from Key, who has labelled him "Dotcom's little henchman" and a "loser".
"It is not all that common to arrive in a country, and within 24 hours, literally, find oneself being publicly maligned and attacked by the nation's head of state, using the most adolescent epithets imaginable," said Greenwald to applause, and peels of laughter from Dotcom.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/15/moment-truth-greenwald-dotcom-snowden-assange-new-zealand-john-key
Autumn
(45,107 posts)That could never happen here.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)was is too priceless to miss.
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)government was spying on his people.
This is a classic case of 'people in glass houses should not throw stones'. Surely he isn't that stupid, to think he would not be exposed by these Whistle Blowers and by Greenwald for what he is?
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)Upon completion of the first stage, Speargun moved to Phase II, under which metadata probes were to be inserted into those cables. The NSA documents note that the first such metadata probe was scheduled for mid-2013. Surveillance probes of this sort are commonly used by NSA and their partners to tap into huge flows of information from communication cables in real time, enabling them to extract the dates, times, senders, and recipients of emails, phone calls, and the like. The technique is almost by definition a form of mass surveillance; metadata is relatively useless for intelligence purposes without a massive amount of similar data to analyze it against and trace connections through.
The NSA declined to comment for this story. A GCSB spokesperson would only say: We dont comment on matters that may or may not be operational.
https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/09/15/new-zealand-gcsb-speargun-mass-surveillance/
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)the American people by the NSA.
It will be interesting to see how the people of Australia respond to their government virtually peering in their windows.
Thank the gods for Whistle Blowers and courageous Journalists who report their leaks or we can only imagine what more these out of control government agencies would be up to.
No wonder they are so determined to silence the messengers. They apparently have a whole lot to hide.
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)Let me be clear: any statement that mass surveillance is not performed in New Zealand, or that the internet communications are not comprehensively intercepted and monitored, or that this is not intentionally and actively abetted by the GCSB, is categorically false. If you live in New Zealand, you are being watched. At the NSA I routinely came across the communications of New Zealanders in my work with a mass surveillance tool we share with GCSB, called XKEYSCORE. It allows total, granular access to the database of communications collected in the course of mass surveillance. It is not limited to or even used largely for the purposes of cybersecurity, as has been claimed, but is instead used primarily for reading individuals private email, text messages, and internet traffic. I know this because it was my full-time job in Hawaii, where I worked every day in an NSA facility with a top secret clearance.
The prime ministers claim to the public, that there is no and there never has been any mass surveillance is false. The GCSB, whose operations he is responsible for, is directly involved in the untargeted, bulk interception and algorithmic analysis of private communications sent via internet, satellite, radio, and phone networks.
If you have doubts, which would be quite reasonable, given what the last year showed us about the dangers of taking government officials at their word, I invite you to confirm this for yourself. Actual pictures and classified documentation of XKEYSCORE are available online now, and their authenticity is not contested by any government. Within them youll find that the XKEYSCORE system offers, but does not require for use, something called a Five Eyes Defeat, the Five Eyes being the U.S., U.K., Canada, Australia, and yes, New Zealand.
grasswire
(50,130 posts)No place for the liars to hide, when someone willing to tell the truth has informed the people.
Sweet.