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More than 20 school districts in the United States have been equipped with military-grade equipment through the federal program that provides such gear to local and state authorities free of charge, according to civil rights groups.<...>
The letter cited "published reports" that have showed military equipment being transferred from the Pentagon to the school districts. It said the total number of transfers from the Defense Department to U.S. schools "is difficult to determine."
KPBS in Sand Diego reported that the city's school district had received a mine-resistant vehicle. KTLA in Los Angeles reported that the district there had also received its own mine-resistant vehicle as well as grenade launchers. KHOU in Houston reported that local school districts had received military firearms.
A school district in Edinburg, Texas, has employed a full SWAT unit, according to the letter, which is equipped through the 1033 program. The groups pointed to a news image that showed officers in military fatigues standing in front of school buses.
"It is frankly difficult to imagine how a grenade launcher, or any of these items, could be safely used in any scenario involving schools," the letter said.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/school-districts-1033-program-military-equipment
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Initech
(100,080 posts)This is why I think the police and the prison industry are far more of a threat to America than Isis is or ever will be. No civilized police department should ever have access to that kind of equipment.
I can't think of any practical reason why school districts would need armored vehicles and grenade launchers.
BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)They justify this because of mass school shootings where civilians are bringing in military grade weapons. If we can't get a handle on that, the ante will just keep going up and up. And of course, money for the MIC.
Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)Guns are why the police are militarizing themselves too. Less guns, less power needed to calm the masses. Guns are out of control, and it's only going to get worse if we do nothing.
cstanleytech
(26,293 posts)woo me with science
(32,139 posts)The federal government is the one enabling and encouraging militarization through grants.
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)woo me with science
(32,139 posts)for the same reason.
Glassunion
(10,201 posts)the living shit out of you.
Dustlawyer
(10,495 posts)Divernan
(15,480 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)This country is officially an open-air lunatic asylum.
CrispyQ
(36,478 posts)logosoco
(3,208 posts)buy a used semi trailer for transporting the equipment to games and competitions.
BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)logosoco
(3,208 posts)Where and when was this? (If you don't mind my asking!). Here I like to picture my grandsons, now in 1st grade and preschool, going to high school where everyone has an e-reader so they don't have to carry heavy books. Perhaps not at the rate things are going in this country.
japple
(9,831 posts)system?!?! Really? Selling toilet paper?
logosoco
(3,208 posts)BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)There were some textbooks, but no enough so that each student could have one to take home. There were no books for supplemental lessons such as a classroom novel, so I bought enough copies so each period could read it and then pass it on to the next. My mother's primary school classroom received one pack of paper and one pack of pencils that was supposed to last the school year. All while administrators were buying land and building state of the art high schools to pad their resumes. It was pretty bad. I'm sure those assholes would have love a tank and some weapons to play around with.
logosoco
(3,208 posts)a stack of paper, some pencils and a couple of worn out books sitting next to even one piece of this expensive military gear.
BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)Mine was a last chance school, or what used to be called a contiuation high school. Basically, students were sent there before they dropped out. There were behavioral problems, some had children, some came from abusive backgrounds, some were at about a 4th grade level, many did not read or write in English or Spanish, and none of them liked school. The misfits.
But let me tell you, I've never been to a high school graduation where everyone in the audience and on stage were bawling their head's off. These students had gone through hell to graduate--they really truly earned it--and they had achieved what they thought was impossible. Often they were the first student in their extended family to graduate from high school and we did a great job of placing them in college. Some had taken six years to do it, but they stuck with it and they were proud!
So the idea that we turn our backs on students and treat them like prisoners makes me ill. If I had a child in school, I'd be raising holy hell at the district office for accepting military equipment. That is just a fatal accident waiting to happen.
jmowreader
(50,559 posts)The marching band at my high school managed to travel, band, instruments, chaperones, everything, in one 44-passenger school bus.
logosoco
(3,208 posts)I guess at this time it was about 80 kids? It took two school buses just for the kids, and for a while they were renting u hauls for the equipment. The band leader got a good deal on the trailer so it would be worth it after a few years. But, as I said, the band is much smaller now because the music classes were essentially cut to nothing.
F4lconF16
(3,747 posts)We were always one of the biggest in the Pacific NW. Most schools we competed against had at least 75+. I think for a year we were second largest at around 180 (we had a 40 member colorguard). We always had to rent two equipment trucks for any of our competitions. Our fundraising was a constant year round thing.
I could use a couple rolls
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)To add to the long parade of the revolting in the new police state.
sheshe2
(83,788 posts)This sure won't end well!
grasswire
(50,130 posts).........to the defense industries!!
Schools are now paying for surveillance, for security, for high tech this and that....
Looks like Sandy Hook was good for business. Disgusting.
ManiacJoe
(10,136 posts)for tear gas and smoke grenades.
1dogleft
(164 posts)the truant officer just got street cred
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)It will be called the Revolt of the Anklebiters.
City Lights
(25,171 posts)malthaussen
(17,202 posts)Talk about Poe's Law in action, I had to look twice to be sure this wasn't Borowitz or the Onion.
-- Mal
MADem
(135,425 posts)Here's the bottom line--nothing gets "transferred" without a request, first. Instead of saying "The school district RECEIVED..." how about TPM making it clear what is going on, with "The local governments, on behalf of their school districts, REQUESTED...." That would be a far more accurate representation of what happened.
The program is run by DLA, not "The Pentagon." It's basically a giant yard sale. Of course, "The Pentagon" sounds more dire. Overview:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1033_program
And here's how YOUR (and that is a generic your--as in your, and your, and you over there, you too, and my, etc.) local police department can "play" in the disposition program:
http://www.dispositionservices.dla.mil/leso/pages/1033programfaqs.aspx
It seems to me that LOCAL communities are using "school protection" as a "law enforcement" hook to get more toys for their police departments--not that "The Pentagon" is handing this stuff out without anyone even asking for it. After all, the transfer costs are shouldered by the receiving entity, and they're not inconsequential.
Responsibility for acquiring this material devolves TO the local governments who have this idea that bigger is better. Citizens need to look at who in hell they're electing as their local mayors and town managers and city councilors-- and who those idiots are hiring to run their police departments ---- because those are the people who are spending local taxpayer dollars to participate in this stupid program.
Some of the responders to the article have already figured that out:
21h
Wait a minute, in Texas in 2011, they cut $5 Billion from schools. Thousands of teachers lost their jobs because the state just couldn't afford them. They've made subsequent cuts. And now I'm to understand that they CAN afford a full SWAT team in the small town of Edinburgh, Texas (Population: 81,000). Seriously? You can't afford teachers but you can afford a SWAT team? How utterly messed up are your priorities in education when you do this?
21h
These vehicles are free, except for the $5000 shipping costs, plus the cost of maintenance and road damage from their massive weight. Why pay for more teachers that mean smaller class sizes when you can get a mine-resistant vehicle and grenade launchers. San Diego schools claims its going to be used for 'Search and Rescue". Uh huh.
2h
Uncle Sugar (US Taxpayers) already bought them. The program
makes them available for "free" to LE agencies with a real broad
definition of LE and no need to justify much of anything - which is
why little teeny towns in the boonies and school districts
(apparently) can request these things.
The local LE agency is responsible for delivery costs, which can be
pretty hefty for something like an MRAP. The local LE also has to
handle maintenance and repair costs - and you don't get the parts
for those things from the local auto parts store. I read recently that
one agency got two so they can cannibalize one for parts as
needed.
blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)ballyhoo
(2,060 posts)libdem4life
(13,877 posts)...or Principals, or School District Personnel.
Now, if there was a market they could sell them in for profit...to heck with the bake sales, say, to whoever are today's "Good guys with rocket launchers, et al" in the Middle East, but somehow I believe that market is well supplied by the US already.
Unless you've taught school, you just never know what evil lurks in the mind of a third grader. Oh, and the old worn out phrase..."Use your words"...Piffle.
dilby
(2,273 posts)a bad dystopian novel.