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Botany

(70,516 posts)
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 10:47 AM Sep 2014

Lawsuit; Pat Robertson's War Record Has Ex-Marine Pete Mccloskey Fighting Mad (blast form the past)

Pat can STFU about about people being cowards. He had his daddy, Sen. Roberston of VA, get him
off a troop ship that was on its way to the Korean War. @ that time a young lieutenant in combat had
an 80% of getting wounded or killed.

A Lawsuit Over Pat Robertson's War Record Has Ex-Marine Pete Mccloskey Fighting Mad

FacebookTwitterE-mail The newly minted officers aboard the U.S.S. Breckinridge didn't know whether to take the affable young marine seriously or not. It was January 1951, and they were on their way to the fighting in Korea. In the ship's wardroom, 20-year-old Marion G. "Pat" Robertson, a second lieutenant straight out of officer's training at Quantico, Va., was telling them that his father, A. Willis Robertson, was a U.S. Senator from Virginia and that he was going to have Pat reassigned. Sure enough, when the First Marine Division docked in Kobe, Japan, Robertson, his college buddy Edwin Gaines and four other young officers were taken off the ship and detailed to Otsu—ostensibly to train soldiers coming off the front lines.

Such, at least, is the recollection of Paul "Pete" McCloskey, a former seven-term Republican Congressman from Northern California who was one of the young marines on the Breckinridge. "The most distinct memory I have of all this," says McCloskey, 60, "is Pat standing on the dock at Kobe with this big grin on his face, saying, 'So long, you guys—good luck.' " That memory was vividly revived years later when Robertson, by then a well-known TV evangelist, began making public reference to being a combat veteran. Says McCloskey, a decorated Marine officer who was wounded in action in Korea, "I don't condemn Robertson for what he did 37 years ago, but I sure as hell don't like him lying about it now."

Last year, after McCloskey began sharing his recollections with the press, Robertson retaliated with a $35 million libel suit. The case was scheduled to begin before a Washington, D.C., judge on Super Tuesday, but last week, Robertson moved to dismiss the suit rather than have it open on the day of the presidential primaries in his southern strongholds.

http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20098476,00.html

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karynnj

(59,504 posts)
2. Thanks for this - I don't think I ever heard anything of the charges or suit
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 11:01 AM
Sep 2014

It is interesting that another right wing leader seemed to "forget" that he or his family pulled strings to keep himself safe. I haven't tried to look, but bet he was right up there with Limbaugh and others calling Kerry out for "just" getting three "minor" wounds before leaving to finish his time as an aide to a Brooklyn rear admiral.

Botany

(70,516 posts)
4. In 2004 I met and talked to some of the men who served w/Kerry on the Swift Boat.
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 11:13 AM
Sep 2014

Kerry was awarded 3 purple hearts, a bronze star, and a silver star. He also never lost a man
doing some of the most dangerous duty in the war. w was given "safe duty" but he went AWOL
to avoid a drug test.

What Rove and Creative Response Concepts did to john Kerry was shameful.

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When Robertson tried to sue Pete McClusky for telling his story about Pat's Korean War
actions a big old tough retired marine Sargeant form Oklahoma was interviewd
and he said he want to tesitfy about "that son of bitch Roberston," Pat dropped his
lawsuit the next day.

karynnj

(59,504 posts)
6. I heard some of the same guys speak in Boston at a celebration for 25 years in the Senate
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 11:24 AM
Sep 2014

Their respect and even love for Kerry was incredibly obvious as was their intense hatred of Rove and his allies.

greatlaurel

(2,004 posts)
5. Never heard about Pat Robertson getting off the troopship bound for Korea.
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 11:19 AM
Sep 2014

Never heard his dad was a senator, either. This is the sort of back story that really needs to get publicized.








Brother Buzz

(36,444 posts)
8. Pete McCloskey was the LAST republican I had any respect for, and his word has always been his word
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 11:39 AM
Sep 2014

I still have tremendous respect for him, but he's no longer a republican. Here's his open letter denouncing the republican party. "A pox on them (Republicans) and their values":

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McCloskeys have been Republicans in California since 1859, the year before Lincoln's election. My great grandfather, John Henry McCloskey, orphaned in the great Irish potato famine of 1843, came to California in 1853 as a boy of 16, and joined the party just before the Civil War.

By 1890 he and my grandfather, both farmers, made up two of the twelve members of the Republican Central Committee of Merced County. My father's most memorable expletive came when I was a boy of 10 or 11: "That damn Roosevelt is trying to pack the Supreme Court!"

I registered Republican in 1948 after reaching the age of 21. We were the party of civil rights, of free choice for women and fiscal responsibility. Since Teddy Roosevelt, we had favored environmental protection, and most of all we stood for fiscal responsibility, honesty, ethics and limited government intrusion into our personal lives and choices. We accepted that one the duties of wealth was to pay a higher rate of income tax, and that the estates of the wealthy should contribute to the national treasury in reasonable measure.

I was proud to serve with Republicans like Gerry Ford, the first George Bush and Bob Dole.

In 1994, however, Newt Gingrich brought a new kind of Republicanism to power, and the election of George W. Bush in 2000 has led to wholly new concept of governance. The bureaucracy has mushroomed in size and power. The budget deficits have become astronomical. Our historical separation of church and state has been blurred. We have seen a succession of ethical scandals, congressmen taking bribes, and abuse of power by both the Republican House leadership and the highest appointees of the White House.

The single cardinal principle of political science, that power corrupts, has come to apply not only to Republican leaders like Tom DeLay, Duke Cunningham, Bob Ney and John Doolittle, but to a succession of White House officials and appointees. The stench of Jack Abramoff has permeated much of the Washington Republican establishment.

The Justice Department, guardian of of our rule of law, has been compromised. It's third ranking official, a graduate of Pat Robertson's dubious law school, has taken the 5th Amendment.

Men who have never felt the fear of combat, and who largely dodged military service in their youth, have led us into grievous wars in far off places with no thought of the diplomacy, grace and respect for other peoples and their cultures which has been an American trademark for at least the last two thirds of a century. We have lost the respect and affection of most of the world outside our borders. My son, Peter, one of the U.S. prosecutors at The Hague of the war crimes in Serbia and elsewhere, tells me that people of other countries no longer look at the country which countenances torture as a beacon for the world and the rule of law.

Earth Day, that bi-partisan concept of Gaylord Nelson in 1970, has become the focus of almost hatred by today's Republican leadership. Many still argue that global warming is a hoax, and that Bush has been right to demean and suppress the arguments of scientists at the E.P.A., Fish & Wildlife and U.S.Geological Survey.

I say a pox on them and their values.

Until the past few weeks, I had hoped that the party could right itself, returning to the values of the Eisenhowers, Fords and George H. W. Bush.

What finally turned me to despair, however, was listening to the reports, or watching on C-Span, a whole series of congressional oversight hearings on C-Span, held by old friends and colleagues like Pat Leahy, Henry Waxman, Norm Dicks, Nick Rahall, Danny Akaka and others, trying to learn the truth on the misdeeds and incompetence of the Bush Administration. Time after time I saw Republican Members of the House and Senate. speak out in scorn or derision about these exercises of Congress oversight responsibility being "witch-hunts" or partisan attempts to distort the actions of people like the head of the General Service Administration and the top political appointees in the Justice and Interior Departments. Disagreement turned into disgust.

I finally concluded that it was a fraud for me to remain a member of this modern Republican Party, that there were only a few like Chuck Hegel, Jack Warner, Arlen Specter, Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins I could respect.

Two of the best, Lincoln Chafee of Rhode Island, and Jim Leach of Iowa, after years of battling for balance and sanity, were defeated last November, and it seems that every Republican presidential candidate is now vying for the support of the Pat Robertsons and Jerry Falwells rather than talking about a return to the values of the party I joined nearly 59 years ago. My favorite spokesmen have become Senators Jim Webb and Barack Obama.

And so it was, that while at the Woodland courthouse the other day, passing by the registrar's office, I filled out the form to re-register as a Democrat.

The issues Helen (McCloskey) and I care about most, public financing of elections, a reliable paper ballot trail, independent re-districting to replace gerrymandering, the right of a woman to choose not to bring a child into the world, a reversal of the old Proposition 13 and term limits which have so hurt California's once superb education system and the competence of our Legislature, are now almost universally opposed by California's elected Republicans, and the occasional attempts at reform by our Governor are looked on with grim disdain by most of them.

From Helen's and my standpoint, being farmers in Yolo County gives us the opportunity to work for purposes which were once Republican, but can no longer be found at Republican conventions and discussions.

I hope this answers your questions about the party and a government I have served in either civil or military service under ten presidents, five Republican and five Democrat ... I doubt it will be of much interest other than to our friends, but it has been a decision not easily taken.

Respectfully, Pete McCloskey

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
9. To complete the record: 26 years ago, Robertson dropped his suit and agreed to pay McCloskey's costs
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 12:50 PM
Sep 2014

According to this article in Forbes, the trial was set to begin on the same day as several of the 1988 primaries. Robertson didn't want all the testimony against him to hit the headlines, so he dropped the suit, but the Forbes author believes it was still a key factor in the collapse of his campaign.

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