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ksoze

(2,068 posts)
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 11:05 AM Sep 2014

The NFL is a non-profit? Yep, pays no taxes.

The National Football League generates about $9.5 billion in revenue each year. It is, by Forbes’ estimate, the most valuable sports league in the world. Its commissioner, Roger Goodell, makes $44 million in a year. And yet, the NFL’s head office has long been allowed to operate as a tax-exempt nonprofit—as if its sole purpose for existence wasn’t to extract wads of cash from the wallets of American sports fans.

http://www.slate.com/articles/business/moneybox/2014/09/the_nfl_should_lose_its_tax_exempt_status_the_league_is_not_a_nonprofit.html
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The NFL is a non-profit? Yep, pays no taxes. (Original Post) ksoze Sep 2014 OP
They are? This is news to me. Xyzse Sep 2014 #1
I've read that its more complicated than that. aikoaiko Sep 2014 #2
Thought sure it would be as a religious organization rurallib Sep 2014 #4
yeah, $109 million is essentially nothing to me, too. unblock Sep 2014 #5
I think their is some confusion on this issue GusBob Sep 2014 #3
They are privately held - who knows? ksoze Sep 2014 #10
THAT is absurd! librechik Sep 2014 #6
The first Superbowl tickets were $6.00. Now they start at $2,160.00. NYC_SKP Sep 2014 #7
The Profit Lies In The Teams ProfessorGAC Sep 2014 #8
Tried to hide salaries once before... ksoze Sep 2014 #9
I think it's classed as a trade association. MineralMan Sep 2014 #11
Socialism for the Oh-So-Social. Octafish Sep 2014 #12
I don't think it is a very big deal joeglow3 Sep 2014 #13

Xyzse

(8,217 posts)
1. They are? This is news to me.
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 11:06 AM
Sep 2014

I wonder how they pull off their accounting to do that.

They must hit a razor thin line to do so.

aikoaiko

(34,172 posts)
2. I've read that its more complicated than that.
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 11:11 AM
Sep 2014

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/nfl-tax-exempt-status-means-they-pay-more-taxes/


The NFL is a tax-exempt organization. No, it isn’t a non-profit. Yes, it pays massive amounts of taxes–more than it would if it weren’t tax exempt. While Major League Baseball’s fabled exemption from anti-trust laws is well known, most people likely didn’t realize the National Football League was tax-exempt until Senator Tom Coburn (R, OK) called for reviewing it a couple weeks back. It turns out that the National Hockey League (NHL) and Professional Golf Association (PGA) has the same status. According to one estimate, stripping all these exemptions could bring in $109 million in tax revenue over the next ten years (which is to say, essentially nothing).

But Forbes’ Peter J. Reilly explains that the filing status is likely costing the NFL more that it saves. He looks at the League’s Form 990 for clues.

From the Form 990 we learn that the NFL has just over a quarter billion in revenue. Does that strike you as kind of low ? What with all those TV advertisements and everything. The thing is that money does not belong to the NFL. The bulk of the NFL’s revenue is membership dues. It also collects about half a million in fines and penalties and has slightly less than $200,000 in investment income. There are some people making good money working for the NFL. President Roger Goodell had reportable compensation of nearly thirty million. The really big money is not with the NFL. Rather it is with the 32 teams that constitute its members.
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Despite football’s quasi-religious status, the NFL is not exempt under 501(c)(3). It is exempt under 501(c)(6) which is defined as:
Business leagues, chambers of commerce, real-estate boards, boards of trade, or professional football leagues (whether or not administering a pension fund for football players), not organized for profit and no part of the net earnings of which inures to the benefit of any private shareholder or individual.

unblock

(52,257 posts)
5. yeah, $109 million is essentially nothing to me, too.
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 11:19 AM
Sep 2014


yeah, i mean sure, it's a tiny portion of the federal deficit, but if that logic works for them then why am i not tax-exempt? i'm a much smaller portion!

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
3. I think their is some confusion on this issue
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 11:15 AM
Sep 2014

the front office is tax exempt, but it distributes income to the teams and they pay taxes. I think>????

ksoze

(2,068 posts)
10. They are privately held - who knows?
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 11:32 AM
Sep 2014

Between tax breaks to construct stadiums, abatements of property taxes, long-term low-cost loans, and even payments to keep teams where they are, who knows what they pay?

librechik

(30,674 posts)
6. THAT is absurd!
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 11:19 AM
Sep 2014

What group are they assisting? Talented young athletes? While charging $1500 for tickets?

That frosts me.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
7. The first Superbowl tickets were $6.00. Now they start at $2,160.00.
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 11:21 AM
Sep 2014

And go up from there.

Fuck the NFL.

ProfessorGAC

(65,078 posts)
8. The Profit Lies In The Teams
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 11:26 AM
Sep 2014

They are not tax exempt, at least at the federal level. Some might have tax breaks in their municipalities or their states, but that is shame on those legislators. The federal tax bill still applies on revenues minus expenses for the teams themselves.

ksoze

(2,068 posts)
9. Tried to hide salaries once before...
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 11:28 AM
Sep 2014

The NFL asked Congress to grant pro football a waiver from the disclosure rule. During the lobbying battle, Joe Browne, then the league’s vice president for public affairs, told The New York Times, “I finally get to the point where I’m making 150 grand, and they want to put my name and address on the [disclosure] form so the lawyer next door who makes a million dollars a year can laugh at me.” Browne added that $150,000 does not buy in the New York area what it would in “Dubuque, Iowa.” The waiver was denied. Left no option, the NFL revealed that at the time, Browne made about $2 million annually.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
11. I think it's classed as a trade association.
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 11:44 AM
Sep 2014

As such, it probably falls under non-profit status. So does the American Medical Association and most other trade associations. In themselves, they don't generate profits, by design, even though a lot of revenue passes through their hands.

The individual NFL teams, though, are not non-profits. They fund the NFL from their revenues, but the NFL, itself, probably shows no profit. So, as a trade association, it qualifies for non-profit status. I'm not supporting that status, but that's why it has that status.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
12. Socialism for the Oh-So-Social.
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 11:52 AM
Sep 2014

Austerity for the rest of us, who also happen to get the privilege of picking up their tab.

 

joeglow3

(6,228 posts)
13. I don't think it is a very big deal
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 12:04 PM
Sep 2014

The NFL (i.e. NOT the individual teams) is set up to basically break even. If it did pay Federal income taxes, there would be little to pay. Since the NFL is not a publicly traded company, there is no limit on deductibility executive compensation.

Go ahead and remove the tax exempt status, but also recognize our politicians aren't really doing shit. This is their game: screw us over, then do some small thing, but dupe the public into thinking it is a huge thing so they can justify continuing to screw us.

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