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n2doc

(47,953 posts)
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 12:24 PM Sep 2014

Police Have a Much Bigger Domestic Abuse Problem Than the NFL

Should the National Football League suspend or ban any player caught assaulting a wife or girlfriend? That seems to be the conventional wisdom since video emerged of running back Ray Rice knocking his wife unconscious in an elevator, even as reports surface that many more NFL players have domestic-abuse records.

While I have no particular objection to a suspension of any length for such players, the public focus on NFL policy seems strange and misplaced to me. Despite my general preference for reducing the prison population, an extremely strong person rendering a much smaller, weaker person unconscious with his fists, as Rice did, is a situation where prison is particularly appropriate. More generally, clear evidence of domestic abuse is something that ought to result in legal sanction. Employers aren't a good stand in for prosecutors, juries, and judges.

Should ex-convicts who abused their partners be denied employment forever? I think not. Our notion should be that they've paid their debt to society in prison. Pressure on the NFL to take a harder line against domestic abuse comes in the context of a society where the crime isn't adequately punished, so I totally understand it. Observing anti-NFL rhetoric, you'd nevertheless get the impression that other employers monitor and sanction domestic abuse incidents by employees. While I have nothing against pressuring the NFL to go beyond what the typical employer does, I fear that vilifying the league has the effect of misleading the public into a belief that it is out of step with general norms on this issue. Domestic violence is less common among NFL players than the general population.

And there is another American profession that has a significantly more alarming problem with domestic abuse. I'd urge everyone who believes in zero tolerance for NFL employees caught beating their wives or girlfriends to direct as much attention—or ideally, even more attention—at police officers who assault their partners. Several studies have found that the romantic partners of police officers suffer domestic abuse at rates significantly higher than the general population. And while all partner abuse is unacceptable, it is especially problematic when domestic abusers are literally the people that battered and abused women are supposed to call for help.

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http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2014/09/police-officers-who-hit-their-wives-or-girlfriends/380329/


If there's any job that domestic abuse should disqualify a person from holding, isn't it the one job that gives you a lethal weapon, trains you to stalk people without their noticing, and relies on your judgment and discretion to protect the abused against domestic abusers?

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Police Have a Much Bigger Domestic Abuse Problem Than the NFL (Original Post) n2doc Sep 2014 OP
cops and judges.... questionseverything Sep 2014 #1
I wonder if they had to get the Judge's wife's consent for the avebury Sep 2014 #3
Police badges are magic. nt ZombieHorde Sep 2014 #2
One more reazon for pigs to disgust us all. ncjustice80 Sep 2014 #4
Yes. Chan790 Sep 2014 #5
K&R B Calm Sep 2014 #6
Or they are able to kill their wives or girlfriends and get away with it; A HERETIC I AM Sep 2014 #7

questionseverything

(9,656 posts)
1. cops and judges....
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 12:54 PM
Sep 2014

Chris Hayes Plays Horrifying 911 Call From Federal Judge Mark Fuller's Wife; Sounds of Her Apparently Being Struck Can Be Clearly Heard


ALSO: Two Alabama Congresswomen, a Democrat and a Republican, call for accountability, possible impeachment by the U.S. House...


By Brad Friedman on 9/17/2014, 12:33pm PT

http://www.bradblog.com/?p=10815

avebury

(10,952 posts)
3. I wonder if they had to get the Judge's wife's consent for the
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 01:55 PM
Sep 2014

plea deal. She is foolish if she stays with this guy. If he treated her that way in a hotel room you can imagine what is taking place in their home.

He should have been thrown in jail and removed from the bench. I hope that she divorces him and takes a huge chunk of his salary and pension.

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
5. Yes.
Sat Sep 20, 2014, 07:42 AM
Sep 2014

If you're a cop and you're accused of domestic violence, you should be assigned to a desk while the charges are investigated fully and independent of any legal action or inaction.

Convicted? Lose your badge.
Pled? Lose your badge.
Acquitted but factually-guilty? (i.e. you got away with it.) Lose your badge.
If the complainant drops the charges, that should not end or bar ongoing investigation.

This isn't a legal proceeding, it's an investigation of your fitness for public service. Cops who commit domestic violence need to not be cops anymore, they have acted in a way to demonstrate they are unworthy of the public trust and unfit to hold the authorities invested in them as peace officers.

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