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big_dog

(4,144 posts)
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 03:02 PM Sep 2014

Fraternity Allegedly Used Color-Coded System To Roofie Girls At Parties (TKE House UW-Milwaukee)

Police are investigating a reported color-coded system for drugging young women at a University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee fraternity after three female students and one male had to be hospitalized for extreme intoxication. According to the police report, members of the UWM chapter of Tau Kappa Epsilon drew different colored X-marks on the hands of visitors — black for men, red for women — at a house party last weekend. The red marks allowed female guests access to different beverages, which were likely spiked with at least one “date rape” drug; the male student who was hospitalized claimed he drank from his female friend’s cup.

The Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel reports that police responded to multiple calls to an on-campus dormitory early on Saturday morning, where they discovered several students blacked out, so intoxicated they could barely stand. All said they had been drinking at the TKE house, and others who attended the party told law enforcement officials that they saw “bartenders” mixing some drinks conspicuously under the bar, returning “cloudy” vodka-based drinks to guests. So far, one UWM student — likely a member of TKE — has been arrested. The fraternity was investigated last year on three sexual assault charges, the Journal-Sentinel reports, and the most recent investigation has prompted university officials to take action: “We are deeply concerned about these allegations because the safety of our students is our No. 1 priority,” UWM spokesman Tom Luljak said Thursday. “Our police are aggressively pursuing this investigation to determine exactly what happened and who may be involved.” …

UWM on Thursday suspended the fraternity’s affiliation with the university for at least as long as it takes for police to conduct their investigation, Luljak said. Once the investigation is completed, additional actions could be taken by the university, he said. The fraternity house is a private residence, which means the university has no authority over what happens there. UWM, however, does control the fraternity’s affiliation with the university and its members’ affiliation with the university.

Apparently, the alleged system of color-coding laced drinks for female students was not surprising to some visitors. From the police report: Police followed up later with the women who were severely intoxicated. One told officers that a Facebook posting said Tau Kappa Epsilon had tried to “roofie” women — that is, give women a “date rape” drug that renders them unconscious — during the party the night before. She recalled a fraternity member got upset when she went behind the bar to pour drinks and was physically removed. She also told officers she had a “weird feeling and sensation prior to blacking out.” http://www.salon.com/2014/09/19/college_fraternity_allegedly_used_color_coded_system_to_roofie_girls_at_parties/

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Fraternity Allegedly Used Color-Coded System To Roofie Girls At Parties (TKE House UW-Milwaukee) (Original Post) big_dog Sep 2014 OP
Shut that house down for good. Arugula Latte Sep 2014 #1
No ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #13
Prosecute those responsible. Prosecute those who knew and did nothing to stop it. cali Sep 2014 #2
according to the girls facebook posts they tried it the night before too big_dog Sep 2014 #3
What Posts 1 & 2 Said ProfessorGAC Sep 2014 #4
WTF?? hifiguy Sep 2014 #5
Revoke their charter geardaddy Sep 2014 #6
... KamaAina Sep 2014 #23
... geardaddy Sep 2014 #39
Did different women get different colors? Brickbat Sep 2014 #7
Allegedly, hot women get the red X. LiberalAndProud Sep 2014 #37
The Greek system needs to be outlawed. It is completely worthless. nt Dreamer Tatum Sep 2014 #8
Ban the frat and jail anyone who mixed drinks under this system. MineralMan Sep 2014 #9
The article presents no evidence that anyone was drugged Taitertots Sep 2014 #10
You are right. It does present evidence of severely drunk people. Comrade Grumpy Sep 2014 #12
So? nt alp227 Sep 2014 #19
It's yellow journalism. Taitertots Sep 2014 #20
It's far beyond being drunk. There's the potential for sexual predation here. alp227 Sep 2014 #22
Oh, so it is exactly the same as every time anyone drinks alcohol. n/t Taitertots Sep 2014 #25
What are you insinuating here? alp227 Sep 2014 #26
Are you saying serving alcohol is evidence that someone is a sexual predator? Taitertots Sep 2014 #28
Your first question has a dishonest, ignorant premise. alp227 Sep 2014 #29
And there is nothing that would indicate that the date rape intention exists in this case Taitertots Sep 2014 #32
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Sep 2014 #35
Another UW School that needs Wellstone ruled Sep 2014 #11
Burn the house to the foundation... Oktober Sep 2014 #14
good thing it is just the few, really out there, psychotic men doing this. sarcasm. seabeyond Sep 2014 #15
Are we seeing a trend? Comrade Grumpy Sep 2014 #17
Why parse so much? alp227 Sep 2014 #18
There you go again, hifiguy Sep 2014 #21
if you can't go greek, go teek d_r Sep 2014 #16
Tekes have not changed over the decades SoCalDem Sep 2014 #24
TKE's were the supreme jerks on my campus 40 years ago CanonRay Sep 2014 #27
If TKE has any sense of decency, they'll put that chapter on probation NuclearDem Sep 2014 #30
What was the purpose of the color-coded system? Hosnon Sep 2014 #31
They're lucky they didn't kill anyone. surrealAmerican Sep 2014 #33
My take on this shit Half-Century Man Sep 2014 #34
Federal charges? Hey, whatever works. nomorenomore08 Sep 2014 #38
overlooking the role of alcohol and underage drinking reddread Sep 2014 #36
awful Liberal_in_LA Sep 2014 #40
 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
13. No ...
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 03:53 PM
Sep 2014

prosecute the members of the fraternity who were involved, which the actively participated, or knew about the scheme and said nothing..

Believe it or not, there are Fraternities that do not engage in such behavior; and there are, likely, members of THAT fraternity and in THAT house that don't/wouldn't stand for that conduct.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
2. Prosecute those responsible. Prosecute those who knew and did nothing to stop it.
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 03:04 PM
Sep 2014

Kick those responsible out of college and shut down the frat house.

 

big_dog

(4,144 posts)
3. according to the girls facebook posts they tried it the night before too
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 03:10 PM
Sep 2014

unbeliveable. i would civil sue the national chapter as well

ProfessorGAC

(65,076 posts)
4. What Posts 1 & 2 Said
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 03:11 PM
Sep 2014

I played basketball on a frat team in college, but i never joined. This shit is why. And, the tekes i knew were like this and i was in college in the mid-70's.

Same as it ever was.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
5. WTF??
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 03:20 PM
Sep 2014

I was in a fraternity (Delta Tau Delta) in the early 1980s for a couple of years. Our national was extremely no-nonsense and well ahead of the curve. The totality of our "hazing" during initiation week was having to sleep in the TV room with 15 other moderately smelly guys and not being able to set foot in the house between 9 am and 4 pm followed by mandatory attendance at a beer blast at week's end. "Real" hazing had been strictly forbidden some years before and chapters got the death penalty for it. Shit like this never would have crossed the mind of anyone in my chapter, much less been acted upon.

Our national had yanked several charters the year before I was a freshman and everyone in the house knew that any bullshit and we would be kicked out of the national faster than you could blink your eyes.

ETA - Some "brothers" in this house need to see the inside of the Big House.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
9. Ban the frat and jail anyone who mixed drinks under this system.
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 03:27 PM
Sep 2014

The time is long past for toleration of this crap from fraternity houses.

Prosecutions are in order.

 

Taitertots

(7,745 posts)
10. The article presents no evidence that anyone was drugged
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 03:37 PM
Sep 2014

No drinks tested positive for drugs and no students tested positive for drugs.

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
12. You are right. It does present evidence of severely drunk people.
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 03:47 PM
Sep 2014

The #1 date rape drug is alcohol.

I find it somewhat ludicrous when I read stories about products that test for date rape drugs in drinks. Do they test for alcohol?

 

Taitertots

(7,745 posts)
20. It's yellow journalism.
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 05:10 PM
Sep 2014

The title should be "College students got drunk". Nothing in the article would indicate that anything different happened.

alp227

(32,034 posts)
22. It's far beyond being drunk. There's the potential for sexual predation here.
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 05:15 PM
Sep 2014

Guess what happens after being drunk? Passing out! And when you've got horny young men with passed-out young women at a party...shit can happen. The devil's in the details, and I'm sorry to know you aren't willing to open your mind.

alp227

(32,034 posts)
26. What are you insinuating here?
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 05:41 PM
Sep 2014

Are you denying that sexual predators lure their victims with alcohol?

 

Taitertots

(7,745 posts)
28. Are you saying serving alcohol is evidence that someone is a sexual predator?
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 05:54 PM
Sep 2014

Are you suggesting that the students in the OP are sexual predators because they served alcohol?

"Are you denying that sexual predators lure their victims with alcohol?"
No.

alp227

(32,034 posts)
29. Your first question has a dishonest, ignorant premise.
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 05:56 PM
Sep 2014

The students are not sexual predators merely because they served alcohol. They are sexual predators because of their intent in serving alcohol - not to mention the possibility of spiked drinks too!

 

Taitertots

(7,745 posts)
32. And there is nothing that would indicate that the date rape intention exists in this case
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 06:17 PM
Sep 2014

And there is no evidence that any of the drinks were spiked.

Response to Taitertots (Reply #10)

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
11. Another UW School that needs
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 03:40 PM
Sep 2014

to get real. ETA chapter needs to hung out to dry. Though you guy's learned your lesson from the early 60's. Obviously the old School of Engineering has problems drawing straight lines. Say it ain't so.

 

Oktober

(1,488 posts)
14. Burn the house to the foundation...
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 04:04 PM
Sep 2014

Prison for everyone involved...

Disband the organization nationally....

I'd be OK with the removal of all Greek life but that's another topic... Kinda...

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
15. good thing it is just the few, really out there, psychotic men doing this. sarcasm.
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 04:07 PM
Sep 2014

are we seeing a trend. that what has become acceptable before is no longer the few, but a learned norm.

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
17. Are we seeing a trend?
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 04:38 PM
Sep 2014

So far there is no evidence that anything was spiked with anything other than alcohol.

There is no allegation that anyone was sexually assaulted.

The article linked to reports that blood tests showed several victims were way drunk, not doped.

People have been getting shit-faced at college parties since, well, forever.

alp227

(32,034 posts)
18. Why parse so much?
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 04:50 PM
Sep 2014

Did you even read the article? There can't be good intentions if women are being targeted with different drinks. Getting shitfaced one thing, being targeted by sexual predators another.

 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
30. If TKE has any sense of decency, they'll put that chapter on probation
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 05:58 PM
Sep 2014

And expel the members involved.

Hosnon

(7,800 posts)
31. What was the purpose of the color-coded system?
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 06:07 PM
Sep 2014

Could they not tell who was male and who was female?

surrealAmerican

(11,362 posts)
33. They're lucky they didn't kill anyone.
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 06:45 PM
Sep 2014

Those stupid jerks belong in jail. This could easily have been fatal if the wrong girl had got a hold of one of those drinks.

Half-Century Man

(5,279 posts)
34. My take on this shit
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 06:47 PM
Sep 2014

If you are an organized planned effort to drug others for sex, you are trafficking in human beings. You are engaging in temporary narco-slavery and need to be dealt with as such.

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