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Yavin4

(35,442 posts)
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 03:02 PM Sep 2014

Just came back from Amsterdam, NL. My thoughts...

My first thought was how happy, well-adjusted, and normal everyone seemed. Everyone is on a bike. Young, old, families, you name it. Everyone is on a bike. Teens seem happier, normal, well-adjusted. They are fit, and very few are obese. I stayed in an area outside of the main city called Leiden, and it seemed like any other nice American suburb.

I say all of this because Amsterdam has legalized, open marijuana laws, as well as legalized prostitution. Yet, you do not see any of the negative effects on the population as a whole. You don't see strung out people on the street with needles in their arms. You don't anyof the ugliness that our media conditions us into believing.

Contrast that with my trip to Portland, Ore last year. There, all drugs are illegal, and all you see are homeless kids all over the street. We are being fed massive propaganda in order to fear and shame us into passing laws that damage our society.

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Just came back from Amsterdam, NL. My thoughts... (Original Post) Yavin4 Sep 2014 OP
K&R n/t Feral Child Sep 2014 #1
I was in the Netherlands in fall of 2013, going thru the canals on a barge... CTyankee Sep 2014 #2
What are you proposing? That our wealthy pay their fair share of taxes??? hunter Sep 2014 #3
Oh, and almost everyone speaks English OutNow Sep 2014 #4
Sounds like it hasn't changed much ... GeorgeGist Sep 2014 #5

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
2. I was in the Netherlands in fall of 2013, going thru the canals on a barge...
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 04:01 PM
Sep 2014

it was art centric and what a trip! I really enjoyed it, even tho it was a bit spartan.

Amsterdam is a great city, IMO. I got to go back to the Rijksmuseum and see The Nigh Watch. I had seen it many years ago when I was 16 years old...

hunter

(38,317 posts)
3. What are you proposing? That our wealthy pay their fair share of taxes???
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 04:17 PM
Sep 2014

That communities actually be provided with the resources they need to deal humanely with immediate social problems?

We can't have that because of FREEDOM!!!

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OutNow

(864 posts)
4. Oh, and almost everyone speaks English
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 04:57 PM
Sep 2014

as well as one or two additional other languages. That's good, since I don't speak Dutch and find it very difficult to learn.

Contrast that to our country where many Americans are barely literate in one language and are instantly offended when people speak a second language such as Spanish.

GeorgeGist

(25,321 posts)
5. Sounds like it hasn't changed much ...
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 09:40 PM
Sep 2014

since I was there in '71.

Do the shopkeepers still wash their sidewalks everyday?

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