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AngryAmish

(25,704 posts)
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 05:23 PM Sep 2014

Will you let your son play football?

So I am standing on the fourth tee this afternoon and I am talking with my buddy about our kids various athletic endeavors.


My buddy mentioned he decided not to enrole his 5 year old in football. Tackle football. My buddy is a professional with an advanced degree. Wtf?

My boy is 3 and is never going to play. But 5 year old football is nuts.

I played football and was undersized and the only way I could play way stupidly and recklessly. I got a concussion a week. I speared a lot of people.

There is no way my boy is playing football, ever. Will you let tour kid play?

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Will you let your son play football? (Original Post) AngryAmish Sep 2014 OP
no Adam051188 Sep 2014 #1
Absolutely not. morningfog Sep 2014 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author polichick Sep 2014 #3
My sons both played in high school.. RagAss Sep 2014 #4
Also a concussion problem in soccer AngryAmish Sep 2014 #6
Girls' soccer is second behind football as the cause of sport-related concusssions in youth sports. Brickbat Sep 2014 #13
how close of a second? Adam051188 Sep 2014 #31
My son does play football, but he also respects women. ScreamingMeemie Sep 2014 #5
Well said. woolldog Sep 2014 #49
A better question: Will football even exist in your community in the future? alp227 Sep 2014 #7
I don't think it will ever disappear. I see it becoming like boxing Ex Lurker Sep 2014 #25
About 10 years ago the NFL was very worried about this underpants Sep 2014 #30
Both of mine played Go Vols Sep 2014 #8
I don't have sons Blue_In_AK Sep 2014 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Sep 2014 #10
I think people are starting to question whether they want institutionalized violence... Taitertots Sep 2014 #16
Mine didn't. City Lights Sep 2014 #11
Both of my kids play. A son and a daughter. Brickbat Sep 2014 #12
No. KamaAina Sep 2014 #14
Probably not Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #15
Almost had a hole in one AngryAmish Sep 2014 #18
80, yeah, you're done. Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #24
For the first time in a month played a course I could handle AngryAmish Sep 2014 #32
I'll have to look those up Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #33
Ahhh ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #35
Make time, my friend AngryAmish Sep 2014 #43
Yes LittleBlue Sep 2014 #17
Proper tackling form greatly reduces the risk of head injury. Maedhros Sep 2014 #19
Exactly. Brickbat Sep 2014 #20
Aftermy husband died, one of our neighbors who was coaching asked if my son (10) was interested notadmblnd Sep 2014 #21
You know I love football & my kid's big - TBF Sep 2014 #22
I played in HS, as did my brother. His son is 12 and playing on the middle school team. Ex Lurker Sep 2014 #23
I'm not a parent but if I was I'd be torn Arcanetrance Sep 2014 #26
If I had a son of age I'd probably encourage volleyball, baseball or wrestling or track depending on KittyWampus Sep 2014 #27
I'd allow it, but discourage it bluestateguy Sep 2014 #28
5 is way to young underpants Sep 2014 #29
Mine only showed interest for one season. jen63 Sep 2014 #34
Not A Chance Dirty Socialist Sep 2014 #36
I'm still trying to get past the concept of SheilaT Sep 2014 #37
A bully sport for bullies? Nope! longship Sep 2014 #38
Not until tomorrows 3:30 game. ileus Sep 2014 #39
Hell no. My son is big & athletic and has been recruited since he was very young and Arugula Latte Sep 2014 #40
The eldest shanti Sep 2014 #41
Right now, football is what is keeping our son Ilsa Sep 2014 #42
I sincerely hope the coaches are expecting him SheilaT Sep 2014 #44
He has to pass to be eligible. However, the coaches Ilsa Sep 2014 #45
I am very, very glad to hear this. SheilaT Sep 2014 #48
I did. LWolf Sep 2014 #46
We are more of an individual accomplishment family... Oktober Sep 2014 #47

Response to AngryAmish (Original post)

RagAss

(13,832 posts)
4. My sons both played in high school..
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 05:30 PM
Sep 2014

pretty good athletes....they played before my issues(arthritis in the neck) showed up. If it came earlier, I would not have let them play.....live and learn...we all agree the next generation plays soccer.

Brickbat

(19,339 posts)
13. Girls' soccer is second behind football as the cause of sport-related concusssions in youth sports.
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 05:52 PM
Sep 2014

sports.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
5. My son does play football, but he also respects women.
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 05:30 PM
Sep 2014

His father (my husband) passed away when he was 9. His coaches have taught them respect and are, quite simply, wonderful male role models for my soon-to-be-man who doesn't have a lot of men in the family nearby. I don't like a lot of the booster stuff that goes along with Texas football (like wishing they spent as much on education as they do on a new stadium), but my son enjoys playing. And, it is his life after all. We forget that sometimes.

alp227

(32,034 posts)
7. A better question: Will football even exist in your community in the future?
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 05:32 PM
Sep 2014

Rising insurance costs and increased awareness of traumatic brain injury may have lots of places in the nation dismissing football. By the time I'd get married, I think my old high school could drop football.

Ex Lurker

(3,814 posts)
25. I don't think it will ever disappear. I see it becoming like boxing
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 06:16 PM
Sep 2014

A disreputable niche sport played by people without other options. But I could be wrong. Football faced a similar crisis in the early 20th century and came through it.

underpants

(182,830 posts)
30. About 10 years ago the NFL was very worried about this
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 06:28 PM
Sep 2014

There were several articles written and I believe an exploratory committee investigation of a possible NFL minor league system to replace high school football programs. Participation was way down. I don't know that it increased, I think the industry just adjusted to the new level.

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
9. I don't have sons
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 05:33 PM
Sep 2014

but one grandson plays HS football, one plays flag football in middle school, and the other one's mother says he will NEVER play football, although he's been playing soccer for a couple of years (he's five) and he may end up playing rugby like his dad, uncle and grandpa.

I'm not a big fan of football, but the two older boys really wanted to play.

Response to AngryAmish (Original post)

 

Taitertots

(7,745 posts)
16. I think people are starting to question whether they want institutionalized violence...
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 05:56 PM
Sep 2014

to be a part of their child's development.

City Lights

(25,171 posts)
11. Mine didn't.
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 05:35 PM
Sep 2014

He played soccer when he was young, and then switched to cross country and track in middle school. Never really showed any interest in football, and we didn't encourage it.

 

AngryAmish

(25,704 posts)
18. Almost had a hole in one
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 05:58 PM
Sep 2014

80. Best round of the year. Chamber of Commerce day, clouds strictly for decoration. Drove a par 4.

 

AngryAmish

(25,704 posts)
32. For the first time in a month played a course I could handle
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 06:32 PM
Sep 2014

I've been a gypsy for three months but the last four I played before today were Medinah 1 twice (new Doak, go buy his new Confidential Guide) then Medinah 3 (mother of balls) then Dubsdread (I hate that course).

 

Boom Sound 416

(4,185 posts)
33. I'll have to look those up
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 06:43 PM
Sep 2014

I play all over Brooklyn, queens and Bronx and a number on Long Island, but maybe all in all about once every 8 weeks or so.

You're way ahead of me. A good day is 110. A great day is lower

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
35. Ahhh ...
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 07:06 PM
Sep 2014

You're making me jealous!

I took up golf shortly after moving to Arizona ... I could play all year long; but, I have touched my clubs twice in the last 8 months ... once, to look for something in my trunk and the second time was to remove them from my trunk ... I just had to physically acknowledge that I just don't have the time, anymore.

An 80, huh? Good round ... my best round has been a 84 ... with 4, 3-putt bogeys!

 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
19. Proper tackling form greatly reduces the risk of head injury.
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 06:02 PM
Sep 2014
I played football and was undersized and the only way I could play way stupidly and recklessly. I got a concussion a week. I speared a lot of people.


In other words, don't do what you did.

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
21. Aftermy husband died, one of our neighbors who was coaching asked if my son (10) was interested
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 06:04 PM
Sep 2014

He went the first day, came home, said it hurt and wasn't going back.

TBF

(32,067 posts)
22. You know I love football & my kid's big -
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 06:04 PM
Sep 2014

but no. My partner does not want him to play so that's a no. Pushing soccer and individual sports instead.

Ex Lurker

(3,814 posts)
23. I played in HS, as did my brother. His son is 12 and playing on the middle school team.
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 06:07 PM
Sep 2014

Do I have qualms? Yes. But it's something he's wanted to do all his life. After his first game, he said, "that's the most fun I've ever had!" There's a certain amount of risk, and I hope it's not a mistake. I understand people who choose not to let their kids play. But there are lots of hazardous activities-motocross, riding horses, the list goes on endlessly. A lot of the most rewarding things in life carry some danger.

Arcanetrance

(2,670 posts)
26. I'm not a parent but if I was I'd be torn
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 06:17 PM
Sep 2014

I had a lot of fun playing football and wanted to do it pro but during my last year if high school I suffered a knee injury and my knee still isn't right 10 years later it still hurts it's always full of fluid and cracks and pops a lot. So I'm not sure if I'd want my kid to go through that.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
27. If I had a son of age I'd probably encourage volleyball, baseball or wrestling or track depending on
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 06:18 PM
Sep 2014

his physique and interests.

bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
28. I'd allow it, but discourage it
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 06:21 PM
Sep 2014

At a certain age, you are not going to stop children from doing what they want to do, and if you are not careful they will do it just to be a rebel and spite you.

underpants

(182,830 posts)
29. 5 is way to young
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 06:22 PM
Sep 2014

I started at 12. Got 5 years in. Walked at college and quit when the girls got to campus.

jen63

(813 posts)
34. Mine only showed interest for one season.
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 06:46 PM
Sep 2014

Thank gawd. He just doesn't have the build for it, but I knew if I said "no" that it might push him for more than that one season. Soccer ended up being his sport and he ran track for a year in high school.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
37. I'm still trying to get past the concept of
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 07:25 PM
Sep 2014

TACKLE football for five year olds. Have all the flags they used to use been rounded up and burned???

Both of my sons were very small for their age growing up. The older son had zero interest in sport, but the younger son would say, when he was in grade school, that he wanted to be a football player when he grew up, and then was honestly puzzled when the other kids would laugh at him.

Both sons are young men now, and the older one runs a bit, sometimes does a 5K. The younger one plays Ultimate Frisbee which is not a real contact sport, although injuries can occur. They can occur in any sport.

Back around the time my oldest was a baby, I recall watching something on PBS which profiled two retired NFL players. Neither one was 30 yet, and they'd had what is actually about the typical short NFL career. And now, these men could barely walk. They couldn't really play with their young children, and were in pain all the time. The show had a profound effect on me, and I vowed then that I wouldn't ever want any sons of mine to play football at that level.

I realize that there are lots of sports out there, and that many people love playing, including football. But there's a movement to professional level play at a younger and younger age -- 5 year old tackle football -- that I think is a very bad thing. You see it in the travel leagues for lots of sports at least as early as junior high/middle school. Parents will spend thousands of dollars for their kids to play in these leagues, blithely confident that it will get the kid a serious athletic scholarship to college, when maybe they'd have been better off saving that money directly for college.

I mean, go ahead and play whatever sport you actually like. But keep it at an appropriate level.

longship

(40,416 posts)
38. A bully sport for bullies? Nope!
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 07:38 PM
Sep 2014

US football, the worst so-called sport on the planet. No wonder football fans need so much pre-game (tailgate) and half-time entertainment. It is a crushingly boring enterprise, where what is called a play lasts mere seconds punctuated by minutes of Budweiser commercials. Plus, the whole purpose seems to be violence.

Is anybody really surprised that there's a spouse violence problem?

For me. Nope. I despise US football. Always have. It is a sport that lauds violence. It's no wonder they have this problem.

ileus

(15,396 posts)
39. Not until tomorrows 3:30 game.
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 07:44 PM
Sep 2014

This is my sons 3ed year....(he's only in 5th grade)

Of course right now he's at the high school game with the neighbors.

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
40. Hell no. My son is big & athletic and has been recruited since he was very young and
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 08:11 PM
Sep 2014

we always say NO. I hate the culture of American football, I hate the misogyny, I hate the concussions, I hate the spinal injuries, I hate the knee blow outs, and I just I hate that stupid-ass sport as a game. May it wither and die out.

shanti

(21,675 posts)
41. The eldest
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 09:04 PM
Sep 2014

my four sons played in hs, as did my bro. I was strongly against it, but DS lived with the ex, and he was all for it, so.....my other 3 sons did not play. Second and third sons had no interest in playing any sports.

My last son was harangued daily to play fb by the hs coaches, but I said no. He ended up playing basketball instead. He had several ortho injuries playing basketball though, and actually got a bad concussion after hs playing a game of pickup ball at the gym. That was scary, he couldn't recognize me for several days.

All sports have a risk of injury, but football seems the highest risk. I'm glad I put my foot down.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
42. Right now, football is what is keeping our son
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 09:57 PM
Sep 2014

interested in school. He's done other extracurricular things, but only loves football. Yeah, it makes me nervous. But he needs to have something besides academics.

Football keeps him very busy and very disciplined. He wouldn't study as much if he didn't have academic expectations on him from coaches.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
44. I sincerely hope the coaches are expecting him
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 04:40 PM
Sep 2014

to at the very least be passing all his classes.

Back in the early Paleolithic when I was in school, all athletes had to maintain a C average to be eligible to play. In recent years I've come across schools or school districts that don't even require the student to be passing all classes, and the excuse given is invariably, "Oh, without the sport the kid would drop out!"

The way you expressed it, expectations from the coaches, sounds like they are requiring decent academics, and I hope so.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
45. He has to pass to be eligible. However, the coaches
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 08:21 PM
Sep 2014

expect good grades. The varsity football team has the highest GPA of any of the sports teams at the high school.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
48. I am very, very glad to hear this.
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 09:35 PM
Sep 2014

I was in high school in the 1960's. In Tucson, AZ. Twenty-something years later I was back living in AZ, in Phoenix now. As I said before, back when I was in h.s. there were reasonable minimal academic standards for any student in a sport. But now, in the mid-1980's, there was this huge uproar over whether or not kids in sport needed to be passing their classes. I was horrified, and wondered just when things had changed that much.

As you can tell from my earlier posts, I'm not a huge fan of most sports, but I also understand that it's different for everyone, and playing a sport can be precisely what will keep a particular kid in school. ESPECIALLY if the kid has to meet decent academic standards.

Thanks for your reply and clarification.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
46. I did.
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 08:26 PM
Sep 2014

Back in the late 80s, early 90s.

They had a good time. But in hindsight, I wouldn't let them and they wouldn't want to.

 

Oktober

(1,488 posts)
47. We are more of an individual accomplishment family...
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 08:40 PM
Sep 2014

... So we lean towards accomplishments related to running or weight lifting etc...

When he gets to that age and desperately wants to play football then we'll have that conversation and it will be his choice with a full understanding of the potential consequences.

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