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EmeraldCityGrl

(4,310 posts)
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 09:45 PM Apr 2012

CBS Evening News just reported

that if you go back to the beginning of the recession in 2007,

36% of women have lost jobs vs. 64% for men.

Everything that comes out of Rombot's mouth is a twisted,
deceptive version of the truth or a flat out lie.

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CBS Evening News just reported (Original Post) EmeraldCityGrl Apr 2012 OP
yup. R Money is a republican - lips move, sound emerges - lies, all lies. no surprise here! NRaleighLiberal Apr 2012 #1
He is so phony. I hate him. Not as much as Bush. But, he Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2012 #2
Money a plenty in low intensity conflicts. nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #3
Except for the part where war makes so much money.... Bluenorthwest Apr 2012 #4
I will guess that you only hate 43 more because the plastic man isn't President. Egalitarian Thug Apr 2012 #10
Female employment has always held more steady than men's, because many were in low-pay jobs. freshwest Apr 2012 #5
Don't ignore the fact that we've socialized women to accept abuse and to be more obedient. Egalitarian Thug Apr 2012 #11
That's so obvious I felt it didn't need to be brought up. freshwest Apr 2012 #22
I've found that it is necessary to continually restate the obvious, because people Egalitarian Thug Apr 2012 #23
Polifact and others have already debunked Romney's claim Trajan Apr 2012 #6
Romney's camp had requested Politifact to change rating on Mitt's claim AND ... Tx4obama Apr 2012 #12
It's important MSM calls him out on his lies. EmeraldCityGrl Apr 2012 #14
War against men then? Zax2me Apr 2012 #7
Construction jobs were the worst hurt treestar Apr 2012 #8
This is what I thought as well...it was an EmeraldCityGrl Apr 2012 #9
Hey, thank God somebody is fact-checking! calimary Apr 2012 #13
Exactly! The Evening News...let's hope to see more of the same. EmeraldCityGrl Apr 2012 #16
In other words ... lpbk2713 Apr 2012 #15
Rule No. 1 from the Official GOP Handbook: Jamaal510 Apr 2012 #17
It looks like you mean to say that 36% of the jobs lost were held by women. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2012 #18
Thank you, Scott Pelley The Blue Flower Apr 2012 #19
Meh Rmoney is totally out of touch Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2012 #20
Post removed Post removed Apr 2012 #21
As stated in the OP, Romneys statistic is a twisted, deceptive version of the truth. EmeraldCityGrl Apr 2012 #24
I heard him spew his "9x% of people who lost jobs in this recession.... ProfessionalLeftist Apr 2012 #25
 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
2. He is so phony. I hate him. Not as much as Bush. But, he
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 09:51 PM
Apr 2012

started a phony war that killed thousands upon thousands.

Thank God, Romney doesn't seem to give a shit about
anything but money...so may be safer from war there if the devil
let's him win.



 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
10. I will guess that you only hate 43 more because the plastic man isn't President.
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 11:26 PM
Apr 2012

If that were to come to pass (God forbid), I think you would hate plastic man even more.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
5. Female employment has always held more steady than men's, because many were in low-pay jobs.
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 09:58 PM
Apr 2012

When you consider the traditional fields, maid, child care, nurses, school teachers. While men have done those, when there were decent manufacturing and construction jobs, men made more.

When those jobs were lost, their wives had to work, not for luxuries but necessities, since Reagan. But the people in that group of either gender are treated by media as if they don't exist. Men doing these jobs now, are as much disrespected as women were.

As far as Mittens and his claims about anything, he's just tossing stuff in the air and seeing what will stick. He's got the money along with his media friends. This has as much meaning as Freedom Fries...

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
11. Don't ignore the fact that we've socialized women to accept abuse and to be more obedient.
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 11:28 PM
Apr 2012

These are the traits that are rewarded in America today.

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
23. I've found that it is necessary to continually restate the obvious, because people
Fri Apr 13, 2012, 02:52 AM
Apr 2012

forget or are just learning. I don't know how old you are, but just look at how much people under 35 - 40 have forgotten or never knew about what this nation was like, or went through, even that recently.

People read news accounts and watch clips and 'remember' a reagan administration that was relatively benign and well meaning, but just made some mistakes. They watch a television show like Mad Men & believe they understand what life in the early 60's was like.

The very recent resurgence of feminism is a welcomed relief, but just a few months ago the mere word carried a very negative connotation throughout the "liberal" world.

So anyway, until we really do change these things, I think it is best to keep the fact that we still haven't front & center.

 

Trajan

(19,089 posts)
6. Polifact and others have already debunked Romney's claim
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 10:33 PM
Apr 2012

It was noted that there was a statistical dynamic involving gender numbers related to unemployment ... Romney's camp selected a specific time frame that did show great losses for women's employment ... but he didn't include the time frame where mostly men lost jobs during the initial tumult of the downturn ...

Its already a losing claim ....

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
12. Romney's camp had requested Politifact to change rating on Mitt's claim AND ...
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 11:43 PM
Apr 2012

today Politifact posted a response saying that they will NOT change their 'mostly false' rating.

Response is here: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/apr/10/mitt-romney/romney-campaign-says-women-were-hit-hard-job-losse/


EmeraldCityGrl

(4,310 posts)
14. It's important MSM calls him out on his lies.
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 11:51 PM
Apr 2012

Most people will not go to Polifact to check his statements. Although anyone
living in the real world knows the 92% figure he claimed was outrageous.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
8. Construction jobs were the worst hurt
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 10:56 PM
Apr 2012

Mostly men hold them. It would have more to do with that than with gender - not so much for keeping jobs as for the jobs men tend to hold being the ones that suffered.

calimary

(81,322 posts)
13. Hey, thank God somebody is fact-checking!
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 11:49 PM
Apr 2012

Other than Current or even MSNBC. They can't sweep it under the rug and pretend it doesn't exist or that a handful of nobodies say this, if it's one of the majors. Even yesterday's majors. CBS is still major.

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
17. Rule No. 1 from the Official GOP Handbook:
Fri Apr 13, 2012, 12:15 AM
Apr 2012

When the facts are not on your side, do not hesitate to tweak the facts and stir up irrational fear in the constituents towards your opposition.

 

lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)
18. It looks like you mean to say that 36% of the jobs lost were held by women.
Fri Apr 13, 2012, 12:20 AM
Apr 2012

The recession was big, but I doubt that 50% of workers lost their jobs. (the average of 36% and 64% is 50%)

This observation has some implications for "the pay gap", doesn't it?

The Blue Flower

(5,442 posts)
19. Thank you, Scott Pelley
Fri Apr 13, 2012, 12:37 AM
Apr 2012

He has consistently presented the false statement, then shown why it was false. I have appreciated this very much over the last many weeks.

Response to EmeraldCityGrl (Original post)

EmeraldCityGrl

(4,310 posts)
24. As stated in the OP, Romneys statistic is a twisted, deceptive version of the truth.
Fri Apr 13, 2012, 02:59 AM
Apr 2012

Romney’s statistic is accurate. It’s true, according to data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics, that between January 2009, when Obama took office, and March 2012, there has been a net decline of 740,000 jobs for both men and women, and that among women there has been a net loss of 683,000 jobs. The Romney campaign did the math and calculated that 92.3 percent of the jobs lost under Obama were lost by women.

But is that a result of Obama’s policies, as Romney says? A look at this chart — which we created based on official Bureau of Labor Statistics monthly figures for seasonally adjusted nonfarm employment (the standard measure for jobs) — tells another story.



What the graph shows clearly, and the numbers back up, is that men took a bigger hit than women, and the decline in jobs for men began much earlier. The downturn in male employment began in May 2007 — a full seven months before the official start (in December 2007) of what became the worst economic recession since the Great Depression. Female employment continued to rise for 10 months after the downturn in male employment, and it peaked in March 2008.

By the time Obama took office in January 2009, both male and female employment were in a steep decline that continued for over a year. Male employment hit bottom in February 2010, and female employment continued to slump for another seven months, bottoming out in September 2010. And as the chart clearly shows, the job recovery for women not only started later, the rate of recovery has been slower.

http://factcheck.org/2012/04/obamas-war-on-women/

If calling Romney names offends your sensibilities you may want to avoid reading my posts.
Furthermore, no where in the OP did I suggest Rombot said "since the beginning of the recession."
The statistical facts of the entire Bush recession are what's relevant and that's what CBS pointed
out at the end of the segment.

ProfessionalLeftist

(4,982 posts)
25. I heard him spew his "9x% of people who lost jobs in this recession....
Fri Apr 13, 2012, 11:14 AM
Apr 2012

...are women" bullshit. Immediately knew that was not the case because previously, several outlets and the BLS I believe (can't remember, some official source) said that the recession had hit men harder this time. So the scumbag is lying - as usual.

And he's still using that "Obama didn't cause the recession, he made it worse" line. These dopes just create their own "reality" inside their own little closed-off minds and then try to peddle that non-existent "reality" to the masses. Unfortunately, many are stupid and ill-informed enough to buy it.

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