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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsCBS Evening News just reported
that if you go back to the beginning of the recession in 2007,
36% of women have lost jobs vs. 64% for men.
Everything that comes out of Rombot's mouth is a twisted,
deceptive version of the truth or a flat out lie.
NRaleighLiberal
(60,015 posts)Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)started a phony war that killed thousands upon thousands.
Thank God, Romney doesn't seem to give a shit about
anything but money...so may be safer from war there if the devil
let's him win.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)of course.
Egalitarian Thug
(12,448 posts)If that were to come to pass (God forbid), I think you would hate plastic man even more.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)When you consider the traditional fields, maid, child care, nurses, school teachers. While men have done those, when there were decent manufacturing and construction jobs, men made more.
When those jobs were lost, their wives had to work, not for luxuries but necessities, since Reagan. But the people in that group of either gender are treated by media as if they don't exist. Men doing these jobs now, are as much disrespected as women were.
As far as Mittens and his claims about anything, he's just tossing stuff in the air and seeing what will stick. He's got the money along with his media friends. This has as much meaning as Freedom Fries...
Egalitarian Thug
(12,448 posts)These are the traits that are rewarded in America today.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Egalitarian Thug
(12,448 posts)forget or are just learning. I don't know how old you are, but just look at how much people under 35 - 40 have forgotten or never knew about what this nation was like, or went through, even that recently.
People read news accounts and watch clips and 'remember' a reagan administration that was relatively benign and well meaning, but just made some mistakes. They watch a television show like Mad Men & believe they understand what life in the early 60's was like.
The very recent resurgence of feminism is a welcomed relief, but just a few months ago the mere word carried a very negative connotation throughout the "liberal" world.
So anyway, until we really do change these things, I think it is best to keep the fact that we still haven't front & center.
Trajan
(19,089 posts)It was noted that there was a statistical dynamic involving gender numbers related to unemployment ... Romney's camp selected a specific time frame that did show great losses for women's employment ... but he didn't include the time frame where mostly men lost jobs during the initial tumult of the downturn ...
Its already a losing claim ....
Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)today Politifact posted a response saying that they will NOT change their 'mostly false' rating.
Response is here: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/apr/10/mitt-romney/romney-campaign-says-women-were-hit-hard-job-losse/
EmeraldCityGrl
(4,310 posts)Most people will not go to Polifact to check his statements. Although anyone
living in the real world knows the 92% figure he claimed was outrageous.
Zax2me
(2,515 posts)Not good news for the guys!
treestar
(82,383 posts)Mostly men hold them. It would have more to do with that than with gender - not so much for keeping jobs as for the jobs men tend to hold being the ones that suffered.
EmeraldCityGrl
(4,310 posts)industry issue opposed to a gender one.
calimary
(81,322 posts)Other than Current or even MSNBC. They can't sweep it under the rug and pretend it doesn't exist or that a handful of nobodies say this, if it's one of the majors. Even yesterday's majors. CBS is still major.
EmeraldCityGrl
(4,310 posts)lpbk2713
(42,759 posts)he's a republican.
Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)When the facts are not on your side, do not hesitate to tweak the facts and stir up irrational fear in the constituents towards your opposition.
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)The recession was big, but I doubt that 50% of workers lost their jobs. (the average of 36% and 64% is 50%)
This observation has some implications for "the pay gap", doesn't it?
The Blue Flower
(5,442 posts)He has consistently presented the false statement, then shown why it was false. I have appreciated this very much over the last many weeks.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(108,035 posts)Response to EmeraldCityGrl (Original post)
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EmeraldCityGrl
(4,310 posts)Romneys statistic is accurate. Its true, according to data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics, that between January 2009, when Obama took office, and March 2012, there has been a net decline of 740,000 jobs for both men and women, and that among women there has been a net loss of 683,000 jobs. The Romney campaign did the math and calculated that 92.3 percent of the jobs lost under Obama were lost by women.
But is that a result of Obamas policies, as Romney says? A look at this chart which we created based on official Bureau of Labor Statistics monthly figures for seasonally adjusted nonfarm employment (the standard measure for jobs) tells another story.
What the graph shows clearly, and the numbers back up, is that men took a bigger hit than women, and the decline in jobs for men began much earlier. The downturn in male employment began in May 2007 a full seven months before the official start (in December 2007) of what became the worst economic recession since the Great Depression. Female employment continued to rise for 10 months after the downturn in male employment, and it peaked in March 2008.
By the time Obama took office in January 2009, both male and female employment were in a steep decline that continued for over a year. Male employment hit bottom in February 2010, and female employment continued to slump for another seven months, bottoming out in September 2010. And as the chart clearly shows, the job recovery for women not only started later, the rate of recovery has been slower.
http://factcheck.org/2012/04/obamas-war-on-women/
If calling Romney names offends your sensibilities you may want to avoid reading my posts.
Furthermore, no where in the OP did I suggest Rombot said "since the beginning of the recession."
The statistical facts of the entire Bush recession are what's relevant and that's what CBS pointed
out at the end of the segment.
ProfessionalLeftist
(4,982 posts)...are women" bullshit. Immediately knew that was not the case because previously, several outlets and the BLS I believe (can't remember, some official source) said that the recession had hit men harder this time. So the scumbag is lying - as usual.
And he's still using that "Obama didn't cause the recession, he made it worse" line. These dopes just create their own "reality" inside their own little closed-off minds and then try to peddle that non-existent "reality" to the masses. Unfortunately, many are stupid and ill-informed enough to buy it.