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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsGood riddance to this anti-choice troll.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=272200&sub=transWhy do I say anti-choice? Just look at what got hidden. Posts with titles like "uterus or no it's still my baby too and i will not stfu about it."
or, "i think a father should be able to force the birth, it is his baby as well. personal belief"
Electric Monk
(13,869 posts)Anyone want to bet they weren't even from Ohio, either?
Those are some really disgusting posts on their transparency page, indeed.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Apparently trolls think they can name themselves "LeftiLibDemCali08" and slap an Obama avatar up or something and they get off free.
Among other troll tricks, like the Five-Minority pileup.
LeftyMom
(49,212 posts)brewens
(13,596 posts)to have found one that felt the same way. If she didn't like you all that much, or you just weren't all that great, her getting pregnant doesn't guaruntee you getting to marry her and live happily ever after. Count up the thousands in child support you saved, and call it good dude!
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)laundry_queen
(8,646 posts)Since day 1 that one has aggravated me.
BlueJazz
(25,348 posts)MattBaggins
(7,904 posts)Should have been gone from day one.
TDale313
(7,820 posts)Laffy Kat
(16,383 posts)MRAs to the enth degree. Good riddance. He posted >400 x? Wow.
progressoid
(49,991 posts)Glad I never had any dealings with that asshole (that I know of).
MADem
(135,425 posts)He most certainly disrupted poorly.
One has to feel sorry for someone with such an empty, miserable life that they get their jollies sticking their beak into issues that aren't their concern.
I wonder how he'd like it if all those ladies whose uteri he's so interested in suddenly developed an abiding interest in the location, or capabilities, of his gonads? Wonder if he'd regard that as a bit of overreach?
He should stick to worrying about his OWN medical issues, and leave those of others to them!
murielm99
(30,745 posts)There are some other long-term trolls here. We all know it.
littlewolf
(3,813 posts)Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)But he'll be back with all of his pals soon.
trueblue2007
(17,228 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts)So, I imagine that he won't be the last one to get booted off of DU before the mid-term elections are held.
For some odd reason, those kind of trolls wait patiently until they think they can do the most harm and then, wham, they come out from the woodwork and say the most outrageous things.
I don't get too upset about what they say anymore.
I just press on, and do what I have to do in real life to promote Democrats for office here where I live.
Hopefully, while the entire state's Republican party is in disarray, we can actually get a few Democrats put into high office this year!!
IdaBriggs
(10,559 posts)1) Absolutely LOVED the "bodily autonomy" post he was responding to in July (when his first two hides happened). Some powerful, excellent writing. I missed it in July, so glad I clicked to see his hides.
2) I also think the emotional response - "it happened to ME/SHE terminated OUR pregnancy/I wanted the child" - is a strong, powerful gut reaction to NOT having any say in one of the most important things in a person's life: procreation.
Somebody looked at him, and made two decisions - "you are not good father material at this time" and "I do not want to co-parent a child with you at this time." The decision may have been driven by other reasons (medical, their own ability to commit the emotional/financial resources to parenting, who knows/who cares - her choice, and I support that), but at the end of the day, children represent a form of faith in the future, and relationship wise, that level of decision making is going to alter or end the relationship, and unresolved grief/anger all gets mixed into it together.
If he really wants a child (and I adore men who want to be good fathers), I hope he either finds a good woman (by being a good man) to start a family with, or looks into either adoption or surrogacy. I also wish him peace in getting over his disappointment in his presumably failed relationship (based on his pain in the posting); I remember my tears when I had to come to terms with the fact that people I loved were not good lifemate material, and while I am now grateful for those relationships ending/changing because otherwise I wouldn't have ended up with my beloved husband, I sympathize with those still in the "dealing with it" phase.
Good luck to him.
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)that if a partner of mine had an abortion without my consent, I'd be gutted. It would still be her right to do it, but I would be gutted, and I doubt I could ever be around that person again.
Fortunately, that's never happened to me.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)you would say that before taking the chance. sorry, if you do not know a woman well enough to have that discussion, you have no right to expect her to bear you a child. Crazy!
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)I won;t say that I was in a deep relationship with every woman I've had sex with, but I've always been willing to be responsible for any accidental children. And I did discuss that with my partners first.
IdaBriggs
(10,559 posts)life changing decisions -- jobs/relocation, children/pets, medical issues, and of course, money. If this person was telling the truth (some on this thread have doubts), there was a serious wake-up call about their future and mutual goals.
Part of the grief is obviously about a new understanding of their relationship and its (lack of) a future. Tough stuff.
She has not stopped him from becoming a parent - she is just not going to be parenting with him.
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)I personally DO think of an on-going pregnancy as an "unborn child" and find abortion upsetting. I am also pro-choice, because it's not a perfect world. But if a partner chose to have an abortion, I would feel as if they killed my child. When my wife had a miscarriage relatively early in a pregnancy, we both grieved for the loss of our child. It's hard enough to go through that as a miscarriage. It would be even harder for me if someone CHOSE do it.
BUT..... I am still pro-choice. And that kind of thing is something partners should talk about BEFORE they could ever be faced with such a circumstance.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)condom. when I noticed the wrapper, I felt completely sick and too frightened to confront him.
I knew he was a lot more attached than I was, and was likely going to break it off soon.
If I'd gotten pregnant, I'd have had no thought other than to abort immediately. Because me and the kid would have to deal with a sociopath for the next nineteen years. There is absolutely no way I was going to screw up the next two decades of my life over a casual relationship with someone who turned out to be a nut case.
noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)trolls love to pretend they've had certain experiences because it gives them more credibility or sympathy. reads like pure MRA fiction to me.
IdaBriggs
(10,559 posts)None of the relationships lasted (which was undoubtedly a factor in the first place).
It is one of those things that does happen in real life. If it didn't, we would not have to deal with the "choice" issue in the first place.
People in relationships can disagree about what to do in these situations, and even change their minds about what they "plan" to do versus what they "decide" to do when it actually happens to them. At the end of the day, it is still the woman's choice.
I was very impressed with the original post that his first hide was in response to - the one about "body autonomy" back in July. He couldn't seem to wrap his head around the concept, and went directly to "she didn't give ME a choice". Talk about missing the point....
Sigh.
noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)the MRA trolls love to play the victim. i am sure some men were and are in the situation he described. i just didn't believe him.
RandiFan1290
(6,237 posts)Don't worry they will be back to work in no time. Just like the rest of them.
tenderfoot
(8,437 posts)NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)I mean, to the degree of pure bloodlust.
Good riddance.
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)One would think that the horrendous racial bias alone would make it hard for progressives to support capital punishment.
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)are now a solid segment of DU's "membership."
We live in a propaganda state.
adirondacker
(2,921 posts)this person be anything but a "true" "progressive"?
Kinda like using "dem"
Renew Deal
(81,861 posts)TBF
(32,067 posts)we called it in the threads ages ago. No idea why it took admin so long to ban. After all, pro-choice is in the democratic party platform.
alp227
(32,033 posts)Admin gave him a second chance in july but when flagged again in september it took two weeks to decide user was a troll. Admin must have really scrutinized this user.
TBF
(32,067 posts)awhile. I guess I am just very frustrated that a hard stance is not taken on pro-choice. As a socialist I don't always agree with the party on economic issues but they are always spot on with social issues so that gives me a reason to go to the polls.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)WorseBeforeBetter
(11,441 posts)just amazed it took as long as it did.
MadrasT
(7,237 posts)Why the fuck that took so long is beyond me. That one was waving his troll flag high.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)IF the posts where he said he'd force a woman to carry a baby he was the father of to term didn't get him banned, I wonder what the final straw was?
niyad
(113,344 posts)alp227
(32,033 posts)for 2 weeks until Monday. Admins must have decided the user got too many second chances.