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alp227

(32,033 posts)
Tue Sep 23, 2014, 12:11 AM Sep 2014

Good riddance to this anti-choice troll.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=272200&sub=trans

Why do I say anti-choice? Just look at what got hidden. Posts with titles like "uterus or no it's still my baby too and i will not stfu about it."

or, "i think a father should be able to force the birth, it is his baby as well. personal belief"
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Good riddance to this anti-choice troll. (Original Post) alp227 Sep 2014 OP
Whew shenmue Sep 2014 #1
They were such a Liberal Lefty that they had to put it in their username twice Electric Monk Sep 2014 #2
I've noticed that this is a trend Scootaloo Sep 2014 #4
Long overdue. nt LeftyMom Sep 2014 #3
All I can say is, if you wanted to have a baby with a woman, it would have been a good idea brewens Sep 2014 #5
Finally. Luminous Animal Sep 2014 #6
I know right? laundry_queen Sep 2014 #12
I didn't get a chance to know the poster. Sounds like I lucked up. BlueJazz Sep 2014 #7
That one got away with it for a fairly long time MattBaggins Sep 2014 #8
Long overdue, but still good news. n/t TDale313 Sep 2014 #9
Willing to bet that most anti-choice guys are Laffy Kat Sep 2014 #10
Jesus, what a piece of work. progressoid Sep 2014 #11
Noxious comments and poor grammar, overlaid with an inarticulate patina? MADem Sep 2014 #13
One down, how many to go? murielm99 Sep 2014 #14
never had the "pleasure" of dealing with this one. and glad for it. littlewolf Sep 2014 #15
That one smelled funny from the beginning. nt Cali_Democrat Sep 2014 #16
More like stank like a rotting corpse. Good riddance! freshwest Sep 2014 #18
he is a BAD MAN!!!! trueblue2007 Sep 2014 #17
certainly not a decent human being- forcing women to incubate babies? what an ass. bettyellen Sep 2014 #29
There's only 42 days left in this campaign season. Major Hogwash Sep 2014 #19
Hmm. Two things --- IdaBriggs Sep 2014 #20
I admit... Adrahil Sep 2014 #25
hopefully if you have the expectation that any accidental pregnancy will result in a child... bettyellen Sep 2014 #30
I agree. Adrahil Sep 2014 #38
People in long term committed relationships usually *talk* about their IdaBriggs Sep 2014 #33
I understand him being upset about her deicsion. Adrahil Sep 2014 #40
and boy is it a less than perfect world... someone I dated briefly actually put pin holes in his bettyellen Sep 2014 #44
IF he was telling the truth, which I doubt noiretextatique Sep 2014 #31
I "know" a few people whose partners did not consider any input from them. IdaBriggs Sep 2014 #34
i understand noiretextatique Sep 2014 #35
They are working on their new persona right now RandiFan1290 Sep 2014 #21
... tenderfoot Sep 2014 #22
Also psychotically in favor of the DP. NuclearDem Sep 2014 #23
Unfortunately, that is more common here than one would expect. Nye Bevan Sep 2014 #28
Yet the pro-bombing, pro-corporate personas woo me with science Sep 2014 #24
C'mon...with the words "lefty" and "Liberal" in the username how could adirondacker Sep 2014 #32
The username should have given it away. Renew Deal Sep 2014 #26
That one went on far too long - TBF Sep 2014 #27
Flagged for review twice, each after his second hides of the day alp227 Sep 2014 #36
And I do appreciate that they take time with users that have been here TBF Sep 2014 #37
only over three years of dealing with his posts. misogyny? on du? hmmmm. ;). nt seabeyond Sep 2014 #39
No surprise there... WorseBeforeBetter Sep 2014 #41
Once again, way too long after the fact. MadrasT Sep 2014 #42
Wow MohRokTah Sep 2014 #43
so my question is--why did it take so long? I thought this woman-hating creep was long gone. niyad Sep 2014 #45
Poster got 2 hides on Sept. 8 and thus was flagged for review alp227 Sep 2014 #46
 

Electric Monk

(13,869 posts)
2. They were such a Liberal Lefty that they had to put it in their username twice
Tue Sep 23, 2014, 12:15 AM
Sep 2014

Anyone want to bet they weren't even from Ohio, either?

Those are some really disgusting posts on their transparency page, indeed.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
4. I've noticed that this is a trend
Tue Sep 23, 2014, 12:24 AM
Sep 2014

Apparently trolls think they can name themselves "LeftiLibDemCali08" and slap an Obama avatar up or something and they get off free.

Among other troll tricks, like the Five-Minority pileup.

brewens

(13,596 posts)
5. All I can say is, if you wanted to have a baby with a woman, it would have been a good idea
Tue Sep 23, 2014, 12:24 AM
Sep 2014

to have found one that felt the same way. If she didn't like you all that much, or you just weren't all that great, her getting pregnant doesn't guaruntee you getting to marry her and live happily ever after. Count up the thousands in child support you saved, and call it good dude!

Laffy Kat

(16,383 posts)
10. Willing to bet that most anti-choice guys are
Tue Sep 23, 2014, 12:51 AM
Sep 2014

MRAs to the enth degree. Good riddance. He posted >400 x? Wow.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
13. Noxious comments and poor grammar, overlaid with an inarticulate patina?
Tue Sep 23, 2014, 01:34 AM
Sep 2014

He most certainly disrupted poorly.

One has to feel sorry for someone with such an empty, miserable life that they get their jollies sticking their beak into issues that aren't their concern.

I wonder how he'd like it if all those ladies whose uteri he's so interested in suddenly developed an abiding interest in the location, or capabilities, of his gonads? Wonder if he'd regard that as a bit of overreach?

He should stick to worrying about his OWN medical issues, and leave those of others to them!

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
19. There's only 42 days left in this campaign season.
Tue Sep 23, 2014, 04:29 AM
Sep 2014

So, I imagine that he won't be the last one to get booted off of DU before the mid-term elections are held.
For some odd reason, those kind of trolls wait patiently until they think they can do the most harm and then, wham, they come out from the woodwork and say the most outrageous things.

I don't get too upset about what they say anymore.
I just press on, and do what I have to do in real life to promote Democrats for office here where I live.
Hopefully, while the entire state's Republican party is in disarray, we can actually get a few Democrats put into high office this year!!

 

IdaBriggs

(10,559 posts)
20. Hmm. Two things ---
Tue Sep 23, 2014, 05:44 AM
Sep 2014

1) Absolutely LOVED the "bodily autonomy" post he was responding to in July (when his first two hides happened). Some powerful, excellent writing. I missed it in July, so glad I clicked to see his hides.

2) I also think the emotional response - "it happened to ME/SHE terminated OUR pregnancy/I wanted the child" - is a strong, powerful gut reaction to NOT having any say in one of the most important things in a person's life: procreation.

Somebody looked at him, and made two decisions - "you are not good father material at this time" and "I do not want to co-parent a child with you at this time." The decision may have been driven by other reasons (medical, their own ability to commit the emotional/financial resources to parenting, who knows/who cares - her choice, and I support that), but at the end of the day, children represent a form of faith in the future, and relationship wise, that level of decision making is going to alter or end the relationship, and unresolved grief/anger all gets mixed into it together.

If he really wants a child (and I adore men who want to be good fathers), I hope he either finds a good woman (by being a good man) to start a family with, or looks into either adoption or surrogacy. I also wish him peace in getting over his disappointment in his presumably failed relationship (based on his pain in the posting); I remember my tears when I had to come to terms with the fact that people I loved were not good lifemate material, and while I am now grateful for those relationships ending/changing because otherwise I wouldn't have ended up with my beloved husband, I sympathize with those still in the "dealing with it" phase.

Good luck to him.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
25. I admit...
Tue Sep 23, 2014, 08:45 AM
Sep 2014

that if a partner of mine had an abortion without my consent, I'd be gutted. It would still be her right to do it, but I would be gutted, and I doubt I could ever be around that person again.


Fortunately, that's never happened to me.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
30. hopefully if you have the expectation that any accidental pregnancy will result in a child...
Tue Sep 23, 2014, 11:38 AM
Sep 2014

you would say that before taking the chance. sorry, if you do not know a woman well enough to have that discussion, you have no right to expect her to bear you a child. Crazy!

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
38. I agree.
Tue Sep 23, 2014, 02:50 PM
Sep 2014

I won;t say that I was in a deep relationship with every woman I've had sex with, but I've always been willing to be responsible for any accidental children. And I did discuss that with my partners first.

 

IdaBriggs

(10,559 posts)
33. People in long term committed relationships usually *talk* about their
Tue Sep 23, 2014, 12:38 PM
Sep 2014

life changing decisions -- jobs/relocation, children/pets, medical issues, and of course, money. If this person was telling the truth (some on this thread have doubts), there was a serious wake-up call about their future and mutual goals.

Part of the grief is obviously about a new understanding of their relationship and its (lack of) a future. Tough stuff.

She has not stopped him from becoming a parent - she is just not going to be parenting with him.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
40. I understand him being upset about her deicsion.
Tue Sep 23, 2014, 02:54 PM
Sep 2014

I personally DO think of an on-going pregnancy as an "unborn child" and find abortion upsetting. I am also pro-choice, because it's not a perfect world. But if a partner chose to have an abortion, I would feel as if they killed my child. When my wife had a miscarriage relatively early in a pregnancy, we both grieved for the loss of our child. It's hard enough to go through that as a miscarriage. It would be even harder for me if someone CHOSE do it.

BUT..... I am still pro-choice. And that kind of thing is something partners should talk about BEFORE they could ever be faced with such a circumstance.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
44. and boy is it a less than perfect world... someone I dated briefly actually put pin holes in his
Tue Sep 23, 2014, 07:17 PM
Sep 2014

condom. when I noticed the wrapper, I felt completely sick and too frightened to confront him.
I knew he was a lot more attached than I was, and was likely going to break it off soon.
If I'd gotten pregnant, I'd have had no thought other than to abort immediately. Because me and the kid would have to deal with a sociopath for the next nineteen years. There is absolutely no way I was going to screw up the next two decades of my life over a casual relationship with someone who turned out to be a nut case.

noiretextatique

(27,275 posts)
31. IF he was telling the truth, which I doubt
Tue Sep 23, 2014, 12:00 PM
Sep 2014

trolls love to pretend they've had certain experiences because it gives them more credibility or sympathy. reads like pure MRA fiction to me.

 

IdaBriggs

(10,559 posts)
34. I "know" a few people whose partners did not consider any input from them.
Tue Sep 23, 2014, 01:07 PM
Sep 2014

None of the relationships lasted (which was undoubtedly a factor in the first place).

It is one of those things that does happen in real life. If it didn't, we would not have to deal with the "choice" issue in the first place.

People in relationships can disagree about what to do in these situations, and even change their minds about what they "plan" to do versus what they "decide" to do when it actually happens to them. At the end of the day, it is still the woman's choice.

I was very impressed with the original post that his first hide was in response to - the one about "body autonomy" back in July. He couldn't seem to wrap his head around the concept, and went directly to "she didn't give ME a choice". Talk about missing the point....

Sigh.

noiretextatique

(27,275 posts)
35. i understand
Tue Sep 23, 2014, 01:10 PM
Sep 2014

the MRA trolls love to play the victim. i am sure some men were and are in the situation he described. i just didn't believe him.

RandiFan1290

(6,237 posts)
21. They are working on their new persona right now
Tue Sep 23, 2014, 05:46 AM
Sep 2014

Don't worry they will be back to work in no time. Just like the rest of them.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
28. Unfortunately, that is more common here than one would expect.
Tue Sep 23, 2014, 09:56 AM
Sep 2014

One would think that the horrendous racial bias alone would make it hard for progressives to support capital punishment.

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
24. Yet the pro-bombing, pro-corporate personas
Tue Sep 23, 2014, 08:44 AM
Sep 2014

are now a solid segment of DU's "membership."

We live in a propaganda state.

adirondacker

(2,921 posts)
32. C'mon...with the words "lefty" and "Liberal" in the username how could
Tue Sep 23, 2014, 12:32 PM
Sep 2014

this person be anything but a "true" "progressive"?
Kinda like using "dem"


TBF

(32,067 posts)
27. That one went on far too long -
Tue Sep 23, 2014, 09:51 AM
Sep 2014

we called it in the threads ages ago. No idea why it took admin so long to ban. After all, pro-choice is in the democratic party platform.

alp227

(32,033 posts)
36. Flagged for review twice, each after his second hides of the day
Tue Sep 23, 2014, 01:43 PM
Sep 2014

Admin gave him a second chance in july but when flagged again in september it took two weeks to decide user was a troll. Admin must have really scrutinized this user.

TBF

(32,067 posts)
37. And I do appreciate that they take time with users that have been here
Tue Sep 23, 2014, 02:27 PM
Sep 2014

awhile. I guess I am just very frustrated that a hard stance is not taken on pro-choice. As a socialist I don't always agree with the party on economic issues but they are always spot on with social issues so that gives me a reason to go to the polls.

MadrasT

(7,237 posts)
42. Once again, way too long after the fact.
Tue Sep 23, 2014, 04:50 PM
Sep 2014

Why the fuck that took so long is beyond me. That one was waving his troll flag high.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
43. Wow
Tue Sep 23, 2014, 05:00 PM
Sep 2014

IF the posts where he said he'd force a woman to carry a baby he was the father of to term didn't get him banned, I wonder what the final straw was?

alp227

(32,033 posts)
46. Poster got 2 hides on Sept. 8 and thus was flagged for review
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 01:18 AM
Sep 2014

for 2 weeks until Monday. Admins must have decided the user got too many second chances.

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