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Andy823

(11,495 posts)
Tue Oct 14, 2014, 08:02 PM Oct 2014

Honestly people

Is there anyone in this country that thinks Grimes did NOT vote for president Obama? Is there anyone in the State of Kentucky who actually thinks that the "democrat" running for congress would have voted for Romney?

I admit she shouldn't have handled the question the way she did, but I don't think anyone is going to really change their minds about who they will vote for over this. Those who are making a big deal of it wouldn't have voted for her anyway, and those who do voter for her will do so because they know Mitch is a liar, the know she would be better for their state, and they already know who she voted for.

Just my two cents worth here.

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Honestly people (Original Post) Andy823 Oct 2014 OP
They are throwing her under the bus RobertEarl Oct 2014 #1
Yes, and the 'they' is us and the damn Dem party. elleng Oct 2014 #3
But Andy823 Oct 2014 #6
I'm sorry, but that's not life, it's cowardice. Cali_Democrat Oct 2014 #13
Maybe she didn't vote for Obama? RobertEarl Oct 2014 #15
That is, UNFORTUNATELY, the way 'life' in this country works, elleng Oct 2014 #16
Why try to appeal to these bigots? Cali_Democrat Oct 2014 #17
You claiming Grimes is a racist? RobertEarl Oct 2014 #18
No one had any business asking that question. It's nobodys business how anyone votes. shraby Oct 2014 #2
I agree Andy823 Oct 2014 #4
There were more than two choices for President on the ballot on which I voted in 2012. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2014 #5
I really doubt it. nt Andy823 Oct 2014 #8
That would have required it's own explanation! customerserviceguy Oct 2014 #9
Of course we all know she did customerserviceguy Oct 2014 #7
I agree Andy823 Oct 2014 #11
True customerserviceguy Oct 2014 #12
Does anyone honestly believe Palin doesn't know a newspaper? PAProgressive28 Oct 2014 #10
The voice of sanity! Finally!! Major Hogwash Oct 2014 #14
I agree: it was highly inappropriate to even ask the question. HeiressofBickworth Oct 2014 #19
 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
1. They are throwing her under the bus
Tue Oct 14, 2014, 08:05 PM
Oct 2014

Because she didn't get up on a soap box and express here undying love and admiration for all things Obama.

Shameful exposition of political dullness from those folks throwing her under the bus.

elleng

(130,908 posts)
3. Yes, and the 'they' is us and the damn Dem party.
Tue Oct 14, 2014, 08:08 PM
Oct 2014

We should be smart enough to recognize she can't say out loud in KY that she voted for President Obama; that is LIFE!

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
6. But
Tue Oct 14, 2014, 08:14 PM
Oct 2014

Do you really think people will not vote for her because she didn't come and and say it? I still think those who were going to vote for her already know who she voted for, and those who are making such a big deal out of it are simply right wing nuts who would never have voted for here anyway.

From what I have been reading here, she has money, and people are still sending here money. I think she will do just fine.

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
13. I'm sorry, but that's not life, it's cowardice.
Tue Oct 14, 2014, 08:52 PM
Oct 2014

She referred to herself as a Clinton Democrat when she was asked if she voted for Obama. Clearly she had no problem saying that out loud. What's the main difference between the Clintons and Obama? I think the policies aren't much different.

So how come, in a state like Kentucky, she can proudly call herself a Clinton Democrat while running away from Obama?

I think it's Obama's race. She wants to appeal to a certain segment of white voters. That's just life?

How are blacks supposed to feel about something like this? This is hurtful, but oh well...because that is LIFE?

What about standing on principle and not catering to assholes?

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
15. Maybe she didn't vote for Obama?
Tue Oct 14, 2014, 09:17 PM
Oct 2014

How would you feel if she stated that she did not vote for Obama?

Obama is not liked in Kentucky because of a number of factors. Race being one. Coal another. Environmentalism another. Not nuking the middle east another. There are a multitude of things Obama is not liked for. You probably have one or two things you don't like about Obama. Can you tell us what those are?

elleng

(130,908 posts)
16. That is, UNFORTUNATELY, the way 'life' in this country works,
Tue Oct 14, 2014, 10:05 PM
Oct 2014

full of animosity against those perceived as 'different,' like African Americans. I am not applauding it, I am saying that's the miserable way it is.

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
17. Why try to appeal to these bigots?
Wed Oct 15, 2014, 12:20 AM
Oct 2014

When you appease these bigots, you throw blacks under the bus.

What are we supposed to tell African American children when they see white Dems running away from black people?

"Oh well, son. That's just life in America. You were born with black skin and politicians who are supposed to fight for you are gonna run away from you."

SCREW THAT.

It's about principle and standing for what's right.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
18. You claiming Grimes is a racist?
Wed Oct 15, 2014, 02:16 AM
Oct 2014

That she is appeasing bigots? You think Obama doesn't sometimes appease bigots?

I get that we would like all our politicians and this world to be perfect. But they aren't, and the world is not. Get used to it.

Are you throwing Grimes under the bus because she isn't perfect?

shraby

(21,946 posts)
2. No one had any business asking that question. It's nobodys business how anyone votes.
Tue Oct 14, 2014, 08:06 PM
Oct 2014

They were totally out of line as well as the people talking about it.
Votes are private for a reason.

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
4. I agree
Tue Oct 14, 2014, 08:11 PM
Oct 2014

It was simply another way Mitch was trying to keep from having to actually come up with details about what he would do if re-elected. All he seemed to be able to come up with was the same old right wing BS, "it's all Obama's fault". As I said I can't see anyone not knowing who she would have voted for. It was all BS.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
5. There were more than two choices for President on the ballot on which I voted in 2012.
Tue Oct 14, 2014, 08:14 PM
Oct 2014

For all we know, she might have voted for Stewart Alexander.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
9. That would have required it's own explanation!
Tue Oct 14, 2014, 08:16 PM
Oct 2014

It is completely normal and natural for a person who is registered with a party to vote for that party's nominees. No explanation needed.

By playing coy with this, she's bought herself this trouble.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
7. Of course we all know she did
Tue Oct 14, 2014, 08:14 PM
Oct 2014

The issue is, why is she too cowardly to admit it? It's one thing to be seen with President Obama at a campaign rally, and quite another to say that you voted for the nominee of your party. If she can't distinguish between the two, at least in how she explains it to the voters, then it's an issue of her own making.

Had she been completely forthright about this from the get-go, we wouldn't be talking about it now.

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
11. I agree
Tue Oct 14, 2014, 08:20 PM
Oct 2014

She handled it wrong and here handlers made a mistake. I would have said "well I sure didn't vote for Romney", and if Mitch wanted to take it further I would have asked him if he voted for George W., and when he said yes, then I wold have said "does the mean you rubber stamped everything he wanted"?

I still think this won't change peoples minds. Those who want her in office "will" vote for her.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
12. True
Tue Oct 14, 2014, 08:43 PM
Oct 2014

Those who would vote for anybody but Yertle the Turtle will indeed not care, but what about the folks who decide who to vote for the weekend before the election? Sadly, they are the ones who determine the outcome of many, if not most of the elections in this country.

I read some feedback on Politico (yes, reich wing website, but every once in awhile, if you read just the facts and not the spin, you learn something) about the debate. Seems like Yertle out-talked her on this, and given his experience of getting what he wants while talking, I was not terribly surprised. He tried to make a solid case that his potential Senate Majority Leader status would get more for the people of Kentucky than if someone else had it, presuming the GOP wins the Senate. A voter might have doubts about McConnell, but it's hard to argue in Kentucky that the US Senate will NOT go to the GOP.

He's probably brought home enough bacon for the mushy middle to decide to stick with him rather than someone who doesn't seem to stand for any principles, if she can't proudly state that she excercised her free choice to vote for the President in a state that went for Romney by a margin of over 20%, so her vote didn't really propel him into a second term.

PAProgressive28

(270 posts)
10. Does anyone honestly believe Palin doesn't know a newspaper?
Tue Oct 14, 2014, 08:19 PM
Oct 2014

Ok. Maybe she doesn't. Though I'm still convinced she was going to say New York Times and was afraid of the conservative backlash.

It may not be a perfect comparison but Grimes should have just answered the damn question. That's the bottom line. She made it a bigger story by refusing to do so. Between this and her skeet-shooting ad I can't help but wonder if she blew it.

I hope she wins

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
14. The voice of sanity! Finally!!
Tue Oct 14, 2014, 08:56 PM
Oct 2014

I heard one Republican asshat say today on the radio that President Obama is the Ebola president.

That might give some of the people posting here an idea why McConnell wanted to tie Grimes to Obama so bad in their debate.

There are 3 weeks left in this race.

It's not over until it's over.

HeiressofBickworth

(2,682 posts)
19. I agree: it was highly inappropriate to even ask the question.
Wed Oct 15, 2014, 04:26 AM
Oct 2014

I also understand Grimes' position. If she answers the question, it sets a precedence as a legitimate question to ask of any candidate in any race. We have confidential voting in this country. The issue of who one votes for should not be part of the political debate.

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