Would you be willing to take a loyalty oath?

[kentuck]

That you will not run against Barack Obama on any issue or in any race until he is out of office? Is that asking too much?

[Cali_Democrat]

1. Grimes took a loyalty oath to Clinton by declaring herself to be a "Clinton Democrat"

Is that not a loyalty oath?

[Iggo]

18. Yes.

It's not.

[NaturalHigh]

2. Nope.

[Maedhros]

3. If they run against indefinite detention, obliteration of Habeus Corpus,

drone murder, killing U.S. citizens without due process or the TPP they will get my vote. They will, however, be running against Obama on those issues.

[hrmjustin]

4. No i would not take a loyalty oath or require it for someone i am voting for.

[Iggo]

17. Yep.

Loyalty oaths are for those that can't be trusted.

[siligut]

41. And/or assure loyalty and those with an ounce of integrity are screwed before they have the facts

True, once they learn the truth, without the oath, they could turn back.
Loyalty oaths may also be manipulative tools used to take advantage of good people.

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

5. No.

The very notion of 'loyalty oaths' is repugnant. Save it for Republicans.

[sabrina 1]

27. Exactly, thank you! n/t

[KoKo]

6. Have you Lost Your Mind?

??????????

Loyalty Oaths from YOU...Here?

[kentuck]

10. Did I need this sign?

But I pick up hints that some people almost expect that?

[KoKo]

11. Well..just count me one of the "clueless"....I did need that Tag.....

Not all of us are up to speed given the current climate where the attacks come from all sides from folks we've been here with for many years that often blindside us.

And..yes...times are tough right now...and we are working to keep the Senate...and all of us who care are on top of this... But...your post seemed to discount that.

[bemildred]

7. No. nt

[scarletwoman]

8. Take a loyalty oath to a PERSON?!?! No fucking way!

Smacks of monarchism. Disgusting!

[Puzzledtraveller]

28. ^^this^^

[Marrah_G]

9. no one should take that type of oath

He is president, not the fucking King.

[WillyT]

12. No... Not Ever...

& Rec !!!

[TDale313]

13. Of course not.

Who's asking for one? I think she handled this poorly, but that's no where near the same thing. I criticize the president all the time. But she looked timid and disingenuous in dealing with distancing herself from the President. Voters forgive a lot- weakness and perceived pandering they will not. The worst thing a politician can do is "appear" inauthentic. They all probably are to some extent, but when it comes across that way, when the label sticks, it's hard to undo.

[GeorgeGist]

14. I'd rather smoke crack.

[eShirl]

15. loyalty oaths are a creepy idea. n/t

[Iggo]

16. I would never swear loyalty to anyone who required that I do so.

[WhiteAndNerdy]

19. No way. nt

[840high]

20. This gave me chills. NO. NO.

[cherokeeprogressive]

21. Nnnnnnnope.

[BKH70041]

22. "I will hold my nose and vote...."

"I'll vote the lesser of two evils." "I'll vote my conscience in the primary and for the nominee in the general."

These, and others, are all various forms of loyalty oaths. So when someone says "we don't do loyalty oaths," I can't help but laugh.

[Yo_Mama]

23. They are appropriate for the military but not in politics. IMO. n/t

[panader0]

24. No

I don't do loyalty oaths

[Jenoch]

25. 'Huh'?

How can someone run against Obama? As farcas I know, he is not running for anything.

After VP HHH left the White House, he ran and won a seat in the U.S. Senate representing Minnesota. I could look it up, but I wonder if this happened before HHH. ?

[Half-Century Man]

26. Loyalty is not a swear word.

It is just compensation for outstanding accomplishment.

[MannyGoldstein]

29. when Deval Patrick first ran for Governor,

some friends had a house party for him. At the party, before he spoke, his staffers asked attendees to sign loyalty oaths. To this day, I feel creeped out by that.

[MADem]

31. They wanted the signatures of closet OPPO researchers.

They do like to infiltrate Democratic events to "get stuff" on the candidates or his/her supporters.

You can see examples of this in this report:

[MannyGoldstein]

34. Not a brilliant strategy

We didn't sign it, nor did I see anyone else signing.

[MADem]

49. Did you, or they, sign checks? nt

[MannyGoldstein]

50. What does that have to do with flushing out the enemy?

I probably would have, if not for the creepy loyalty oath.

[MADem]

53. That is the idea behind those house parties--to drum up support and get a little money bundled up in

there.

These OPPO cretins are paid in the dark. They don't have the scratch to be writing out a check (with their name on it). That's what it has to do with it.

[siligut]

44. Rising America formed in reaction to Mitt Romney's continued idiocy being exposed on film

According to CNN, the new group, named America Rising, will be led by former Mitt Romney campaign manager Matt Rhoades, who rose through the ranks of Republican strategists doing opposition research for the RNC. Rhoades will be joined by two former RNC media strategists, Tim Miller and Joe Pounder.


The group aims to fill a huge gap in GOP efforts by gathering opposition research on candidates before elections and sending trackers armed with cameras onto the campaign trail to record gaffes. "We plan to start this enterprise because so many Republicans seem to agree that there is a need on our side of the aisle for an entity that is focused on solely holding Democrats accountable for their actions and records using research, candidate tracking, rapid response and digital tools," Rhoades told CNN.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/21/america-rising-super-pac_n_2926645.html

[MADem]

48. They aren't the first OPPO researchers by any stretch. They are just the latest. nt

[NobodyHere]

30. I don't take any oath

unless someone is promising something in return.

Anyone else is just a fool.

[HeiressofBickworth]

32. I'm opposed to loyalty oaths

No oaths to people, parties, governments, or ideals. Times and values change. Would you want to be held to a loyalty oath, for example, to George Bush? This country has committed acts that would qualify as war crimes or at the least, breaking international laws. Want to be held to a loyalty oath to a government that commits these acts? The original Constitution called for voting rights for white, male, property owners. Want to be held to a loyalty oath to that out-dated concept?

[Nuclear Unicorn]

33. I vowed to never take an oath.

[badtoworse]

36. No.

[ProdigalJunkMail]

37. that is as fucking BRILLIANT idea...

sP

[Wounded Bear]

38. I did, when I enlisted back in 1970...

I have seen no reason to take loyalty oaths since, and especially to any singular person, and I don't respect those that do.

That's feudalism, not democracy.

[Iamthetruth]

39. Why in hell would anyone do that

He is a man, nothing more. I never understood the hero worship people give politicians or celebrities who are usually clueless.

[bigwillq]

40. Never

No. Yes.

[treestar]

42. Straw man

We can still consider Democrats should run in support of the President.

[99Forever]

43. Fuck no.

[Art_from_Ark]

45. I had to take a loyalty oath nearly every school day for 12 years

Although it was an oath to a flag and a republic, rather than to a politician.

[Corruption Inc]

46. Everyone who puts party ahead of principles already has

I get where you're coming from.

[JEB]

47. Fuck no.

One of the worst kinds of not thinking.

[Autumn]

51. I'm loyal to my horse, my dog and my family.

Why would anyone be loyal to any politician?

[alarimer]

52. No politician deserves blind loyalty.

It should always be "What have you done lately that is worthy of my vote?"

They work for US, not the other way around.

[upaloopa]

54. Yes it is. We still believe in freedom of expression right?

[JNelson6563]

55. I admit, I don't get the point of this bizarre question.

[liberal_at_heart]

56. hell no I would not take a loyalty oath.

Unspoken or spoken for that matter loyalty oaths cause secrecy and corruption. Just look at our police departments. The brother code has caused many problems and I sure as hell don't want to see that at the federal government level.