Welcome to DU!
The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards.
Join the community:
Create a free account
Support DU (and get rid of ads!):
Become a Star Member
Latest Breaking News
General Discussion
The DU Lounge
All Forums
Issue Forums
Culture Forums
Alliance Forums
Region Forums
Support Forums
Help & Search
General Discussion
Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsInvesting in Junk Armies
http://www.nationofchange.org/2014/10/14/investing-junk-armies/
IS has fought with considerable effectiveness, quickly turning captured American and Syrian weaponry, including artillery pieces, Humvees, and even a helicopter, on their enemies. Despite years of work by U.S. military advisers and all those billions of dollars invested in training and equipment, the Iraqi army has not fought well, or often at all. Nor, it seems, will it be ready to do so in the immediate future. Retired Marine Corps General John R. Allen, who played a key role in organizing, arming, and paying off Sunni tribal groups in Iraq the last time around during the Anbar Awakening, and who has been charged by President Obama with coordinating the latest American-led coalition to save Iraq, has alreadygone on record on the subject. By his calculations, even with extensive U.S. air support and fresh infusions of American advisers and equipment, it will take up to a year before that army is capable of launching a campaign to retake Mosul, the countrys second largest city.
What went wrong? The U.S. Army believes in putting the bottom line up front, so much so that they have even turned the phrase into an acronym: BLUF. The bottom line here is that, when it comes to military effectiveness, what ultimately matters is whether an army any army possesses spirit. Call it fire in the belly, a willingness to take the fight to the enemy. The Islamic States militants, at least for the moment, clearly have that will; Iraqi security forces, painstakingly trained and lavishly underwritten by the U.S. government, do not.
This represents a failure of the first order. So heres the $60 billion question: Why did such sustained U.S. efforts bear such bitter fruit? The simple answer: for a foreign occupying force to create a unified and effective army from a disunified and disaffected populace was (and remains) a fools errand. In reality, U.S. intervention, now as then, will serve only to aggravate that disunity, no matter what new Anbar Awakenings are attempted.
InfoView thread info, including edit history
TrashPut this thread in your Trash Can (My DU » Trash Can)
BookmarkAdd this thread to your Bookmarks (My DU » Bookmarks)
5 replies, 652 views
ShareGet links to this post and/or share on social media
AlertAlert this post for a rule violation
PowersThere are no powers you can use on this post
EditCannot edit other people's posts
ReplyReply to this post
EditCannot edit other people's posts
Rec (3)
ReplyReply to this post
5 replies
= new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight:
NoneDon't highlight anything
5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Investing in Junk Armies (Original Post)
eridani
Oct 2014
OP
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)1. It does however, benefit
the makers of those weapons and the contractors that assist in the training of the Junk Armies.... Namely the Military Industrial Complex.
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)2. K&R nt
KG
(28,751 posts)3. only the seriously stupid or the totally deluded would've believed it could be any other way:
'for a foreign occupying force to create a unified and effective army from a disunified and disaffected populace was (and remains) a fools errand.'
eridani
(51,907 posts)4. Current anti-ISIL policy unfortunately assumes that it can n/t
bemildred
(90,061 posts)5. +1. Yeah, I like that sentence too.
It was always a dumb idea.