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Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
Thu Oct 16, 2014, 11:40 PM Oct 2014

My response to "Why I Still Don't Vote 2014"

Here is a 21 minute video where a guy who calls himself "DaREVOLUTIONARYWitDaTattoos" is frustrated about politics and refuses to vote.


Before someone alerts this thread, this is the (lengthy) response I made in the comments:

I have a few points to make about this vid.
5:40-6:00
Even though the popular vote is all but irrelevant in determining who becomes president, I think it should be noted that Obama won the popular vote both times. He is the first president in decades to win the popular vote twice with over 50% of the vote, and he won the majority of the vote in every non-white group. It wasn't just one single group that put him over the top.
6:15-6:45
There have been quite a few elected officials with pro-people/populist agendas. There's Bernie Sanders, for starters. There's Elizabeth Warren, Sharrod Brown, and the list goes on. Even Obama's agenda has been fairly progressive (though I even have a few disagreements with him), doing things like pushing for an end to the Bush top tax cuts, and pushing for a jobs bill a few years ago that was eventually blocked by Republicans in Congress.
7:40-8:10
I agreed 100% about how more should be done with regards to the prison industrial complex and Wall Street. However, sitting out elections is clearly not going to solve those problems. If people want those problems fixed, they need to either find more candidates who care about those issues, or run themselves.
Outside of prisons and Wall Street, there are many other issues that face the country that our two major parties hold vastly different views on. For example, there is the fight for the right to vote PERIOD, the fight to get guns out the hands of criminals and lunatics, the fight for health care, education, taxation, women's rights, gay rights, a higher minimum wage, etc. Sitting out elections is EXACTLY what the money-grubbing elites and the bigots want the working class (and especially Black folks) to do. Why else have many states like Florida and North Carolina made voting more inconvenient for us during the past few years if voting doesn't change anything? In fact, there would be no Social Security, no Civil Rights Act, and no public highways if voting were supposedly so ineffective. California would still have the budget deficit leftover from the Schwarzenegger era if voting truly didn't make a difference.
Compared to other countries, voter turnout in the U.S. is atrocious. It's a shame that some people today seem to take for granted the rights that people died for in the past. There is no excuse for sitting out an election, and a person has no right to complain if he or she isn't politically-active.


I probably missed a few points and didn't touch base on everything, but I want to hear what the denizens of DU think about my response.
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My response to "Why I Still Don't Vote 2014" (Original Post) Jamaal510 Oct 2014 OP
He probably hasn't voted in his life. demosincebirth Oct 2014 #1
That's what I was guessing, too. eom Jamaal510 Oct 2014 #3
Thanks Jamaal! Cha Oct 2014 #2
No problem. eom Jamaal510 Oct 2014 #4
KICK! Cha Oct 2014 #5
Wind, rain, waves? Let us know, Cha... freshwest Oct 2014 #8
K&R, can't say more right now. freshwest Oct 2014 #6
I think what you said was excellent! nt arthritisR_US Oct 2014 #7
Thanks. eom Jamaal510 Oct 2014 #9
You do not have to vote, but you have to live with the results. oldandhappy Oct 2014 #10
Good point. Jamaal510 Oct 2014 #11
you did. good post. thank you. should have said that! oldandhappy Oct 2014 #12
Kick Jamaal510 Oct 2014 #13
UGH. Confirms my theory about right wingers being more politically active than left wingers. alp227 Oct 2014 #14
"a person has no right to complain if he or she isn't politically-active" Martin Eden Oct 2014 #15
There's always some ignorant quasi-revolutionary who's too "REAL" to vote Blue_Tires Oct 2014 #16
Not voting is a cop-out Bettie Oct 2014 #17
Kick Jamaal510 Oct 2014 #18

oldandhappy

(6,719 posts)
10. You do not have to vote, but you have to live with the results.
Fri Oct 17, 2014, 12:51 AM
Oct 2014

I am not sure people realize this. They can make a change happen.

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
11. Good point.
Fri Oct 17, 2014, 12:54 AM
Oct 2014

I actually wish I would've added that in my response, but I think I got my point across anyway.

alp227

(32,047 posts)
14. UGH. Confirms my theory about right wingers being more politically active than left wingers.
Fri Oct 17, 2014, 03:39 AM
Oct 2014
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025567955

From his other videos, this "revolutionary with the tattoos" sure is not a Fox News type. There are lots of left wingers out there who are of the "f*** the system, they're all the same" attitude and sit out elections when they don't get nice things.

In contrast, the Fox News & talk radio audience votes, votes, votes every year because they KNOW that even voting for RINO's = my gun won't be taken away, fewer abortions happening, Obama the Antichrist's agenda will be stopped, I don't have to pay more in taxes, etc.

Martin Eden

(12,875 posts)
15. "a person has no right to complain if he or she isn't politically-active"
Fri Oct 17, 2014, 10:11 AM
Oct 2014

They may have that right, but all they're doing is pissing in the wind. I haven't watched the video yet, but the bottom line here is:

If the people don't take control of their own government, the One Percent will continue to control government for their own benefit and to the detriment of the vast majority.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
16. There's always some ignorant quasi-revolutionary who's too "REAL" to vote
Fri Oct 17, 2014, 11:31 AM
Oct 2014

I knew plenty of his type when I was in college, and I still see them now...

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