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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMy response to "Why I Still Don't Vote 2014"
Here is a 21 minute video where a guy who calls himself "DaREVOLUTIONARYWitDaTattoos" is frustrated about politics and refuses to vote.
Before someone alerts this thread, this is the (lengthy) response I made in the comments:
I have a few points to make about this vid.
5:40-6:00
Even though the popular vote is all but irrelevant in determining who becomes president, I think it should be noted that Obama won the popular vote both times. He is the first president in decades to win the popular vote twice with over 50% of the vote, and he won the majority of the vote in every non-white group. It wasn't just one single group that put him over the top.
6:15-6:45
There have been quite a few elected officials with pro-people/populist agendas. There's Bernie Sanders, for starters. There's Elizabeth Warren, Sharrod Brown, and the list goes on. Even Obama's agenda has been fairly progressive (though I even have a few disagreements with him), doing things like pushing for an end to the Bush top tax cuts, and pushing for a jobs bill a few years ago that was eventually blocked by Republicans in Congress.
7:40-8:10
I agreed 100% about how more should be done with regards to the prison industrial complex and Wall Street. However, sitting out elections is clearly not going to solve those problems. If people want those problems fixed, they need to either find more candidates who care about those issues, or run themselves.
Outside of prisons and Wall Street, there are many other issues that face the country that our two major parties hold vastly different views on. For example, there is the fight for the right to vote PERIOD, the fight to get guns out the hands of criminals and lunatics, the fight for health care, education, taxation, women's rights, gay rights, a higher minimum wage, etc. Sitting out elections is EXACTLY what the money-grubbing elites and the bigots want the working class (and especially Black folks) to do. Why else have many states like Florida and North Carolina made voting more inconvenient for us during the past few years if voting doesn't change anything? In fact, there would be no Social Security, no Civil Rights Act, and no public highways if voting were supposedly so ineffective. California would still have the budget deficit leftover from the Schwarzenegger era if voting truly didn't make a difference.
Compared to other countries, voter turnout in the U.S. is atrocious. It's a shame that some people today seem to take for granted the rights that people died for in the past. There is no excuse for sitting out an election, and a person has no right to complain if he or she isn't politically-active.
5:40-6:00
Even though the popular vote is all but irrelevant in determining who becomes president, I think it should be noted that Obama won the popular vote both times. He is the first president in decades to win the popular vote twice with over 50% of the vote, and he won the majority of the vote in every non-white group. It wasn't just one single group that put him over the top.
6:15-6:45
There have been quite a few elected officials with pro-people/populist agendas. There's Bernie Sanders, for starters. There's Elizabeth Warren, Sharrod Brown, and the list goes on. Even Obama's agenda has been fairly progressive (though I even have a few disagreements with him), doing things like pushing for an end to the Bush top tax cuts, and pushing for a jobs bill a few years ago that was eventually blocked by Republicans in Congress.
7:40-8:10
I agreed 100% about how more should be done with regards to the prison industrial complex and Wall Street. However, sitting out elections is clearly not going to solve those problems. If people want those problems fixed, they need to either find more candidates who care about those issues, or run themselves.
Outside of prisons and Wall Street, there are many other issues that face the country that our two major parties hold vastly different views on. For example, there is the fight for the right to vote PERIOD, the fight to get guns out the hands of criminals and lunatics, the fight for health care, education, taxation, women's rights, gay rights, a higher minimum wage, etc. Sitting out elections is EXACTLY what the money-grubbing elites and the bigots want the working class (and especially Black folks) to do. Why else have many states like Florida and North Carolina made voting more inconvenient for us during the past few years if voting doesn't change anything? In fact, there would be no Social Security, no Civil Rights Act, and no public highways if voting were supposedly so ineffective. California would still have the budget deficit leftover from the Schwarzenegger era if voting truly didn't make a difference.
Compared to other countries, voter turnout in the U.S. is atrocious. It's a shame that some people today seem to take for granted the rights that people died for in the past. There is no excuse for sitting out an election, and a person has no right to complain if he or she isn't politically-active.
I probably missed a few points and didn't touch base on everything, but I want to hear what the denizens of DU think about my response.
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My response to "Why I Still Don't Vote 2014" (Original Post)
Jamaal510
Oct 2014
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demosincebirth
(12,542 posts)1. He probably hasn't voted in his life.
Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)3. That's what I was guessing, too. eom
Cha
(297,574 posts)2. Thanks Jamaal!
Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)4. No problem. eom
freshwest
(53,661 posts)8. Wind, rain, waves? Let us know, Cha...
freshwest
(53,661 posts)6. K&R, can't say more right now.
arthritisR_US
(7,291 posts)7. I think what you said was excellent! nt
Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)9. Thanks. eom
oldandhappy
(6,719 posts)10. You do not have to vote, but you have to live with the results.
I am not sure people realize this. They can make a change happen.
Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)11. Good point.
I actually wish I would've added that in my response, but I think I got my point across anyway.
oldandhappy
(6,719 posts)12. you did. good post. thank you. should have said that!
Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)13. Kick
alp227
(32,047 posts)14. UGH. Confirms my theory about right wingers being more politically active than left wingers.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025567955
From his other videos, this "revolutionary with the tattoos" sure is not a Fox News type. There are lots of left wingers out there who are of the "f*** the system, they're all the same" attitude and sit out elections when they don't get nice things.
In contrast, the Fox News & talk radio audience votes, votes, votes every year because they KNOW that even voting for RINO's = my gun won't be taken away, fewer abortions happening, Obama the Antichrist's agenda will be stopped, I don't have to pay more in taxes, etc.
From his other videos, this "revolutionary with the tattoos" sure is not a Fox News type. There are lots of left wingers out there who are of the "f*** the system, they're all the same" attitude and sit out elections when they don't get nice things.
In contrast, the Fox News & talk radio audience votes, votes, votes every year because they KNOW that even voting for RINO's = my gun won't be taken away, fewer abortions happening, Obama the Antichrist's agenda will be stopped, I don't have to pay more in taxes, etc.
Martin Eden
(12,875 posts)15. "a person has no right to complain if he or she isn't politically-active"
They may have that right, but all they're doing is pissing in the wind. I haven't watched the video yet, but the bottom line here is:
If the people don't take control of their own government, the One Percent will continue to control government for their own benefit and to the detriment of the vast majority.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)16. There's always some ignorant quasi-revolutionary who's too "REAL" to vote
I knew plenty of his type when I was in college, and I still see them now...
Bettie
(16,122 posts)17. Not voting is a cop-out
Voting is our responsibility as citizens.
Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)18. Kick