White nurse murders 30+ patients Fox neither mentions her race nor religion

[rafeh1]

Guess what her race and religion are.

Italian nurse suspected of killing patients she found annoying
Published October 16, 2014FoxNews.com

Italian police are investigating a nurse -- who was arrested over the weekend for a patient’s death -- and who prosecutors believe may have killed 37 others because they or their relatives annoyed her.

Daniela Poggiali, 42, a nurse at Umberto I Hospital in Lugo, was initially charged with murder over the death of Rosa Calderoni, 78, who was found dead in April with high levels of potassium in her bloodstream, according to Sky News.

Authorities are now reviewing 37 other cases, 10 of which they describe as “very suspicious.” Prosecutors believe Poggiali killed additional patients who bothered her or had demanding relatives.

Pictures reportedly found on Poggiali’s phone showed her giving a thumbs up next to a dead patient, Sky News reports.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/10/16/italian-nurse-suspected-killing-patients-found-annoying/

[rafeh1]

1. well I think we can safely conclude she is not black nor brown

and definitely not muslim

[Art_from_Ark]

2. She's not American, either,

and at this time she's suspected in only one death, with 10 others being "very suspicious".

And she's in Italy, where the justice systems leaves much to be desired.

[KurtNYC]

65. Is the first word of the headline not "Italian" ???!

a : a native or inhabitant of Italy
b : a person of Italian descent

So how do conclude that they did not mention race?

As for her religion, she killed 37 people so perhaps the "no true Scotsman" rule will apply there.

[TorchTheWitch]

3. why are her race and religion pertinent?

They aren't pertinent in any story about any possible criminal any more than their sock size would be, and the fact that you think it's relevant at all says a hell of a lot about you.

[bvf]

8. I think you missed the point.

If she had been black or Muslim you can bet it would have been mentioned in the article.

Your lack of reading comprehension says a hell of a lot about you.

[egduj]

14. There's a picture of her in the article.

A lot of the times, you can tell the race of a person by seeing a picture of them. Not much of a mention is needed.

[TorchTheWitch]

20. oh, so now being a mind reader is a lack of reading comprehension?

And it's just assumed I pay any attention at all to what Fox says ever?

Lack of reading comprehension my ass. The OP failed in making themselves clear as well as coming off as a racist and anti-religion buffoon.

[bvf]

24. Review what you just wrote

and tell me I don't have a valid point.

[TorchTheWitch]

26. you don't

And I also notice that everyone else in the thread who said the same thing as I did you aren't castigating. Why is that? Everyone else in the thread according to you "lacks reading comprehension" but you continue to harass only me. Why is that?

Done with you.

>>>CLICK<<<

[bvf]

28. Please calm down. n/t

[AverageJoe90]

32. I'm sorry, but you were the one causing problems, dude. nt

[AgingAmerican]

39. You are the one throwing out insults

Chill out. It's OK to disagree, or see things differently.

[bvf]

41. Read the whole thread. n/t

[AverageJoe90]

48. I did that myself. You started the problem. Even if you won't admit it. nt

[bvf]

50. But we were talking about reading comprehension

earlier. I have no doubt you read the whole thread, but that's not really saying much.

Nyah-nyah backatcha, Joe.

[AverageJoe90]

51. "but that's not really saying much." See what I mean?

Okay, it's becoming clear you just came here to be an ass and troll. Bye now.

[bvf]

55. Nope, I came here to read an OP

that some members 1) missed the point of completely, and 2) responded to with misbegotten attacks on the poster.

Sorry you can't see that.

[AverageJoe90]

56. "Sorry you can't see that." Every bit of what you posted indicated otherwise.

And even if you hadn't come here with that intention, you do owe TorchTheWitch an apology for being an arse. That much is certain.

[bvf]

58. Sure.

As soon as I see one from TTW to rafeh1.

Then we can all enjoy a nice kumbaya.

Spare me.

[AverageJoe90]

59. You first, amigo. nt

[bvf]

61. Didn't you wave goodbye a couple posts ago?

Maybe you forgot. "Spare me" was meant as a gentle reminder.

[AverageJoe90]

63. Because you kept on going. nt

[Aerows]

22. Lack of ability to make

a cogent point says a lot more about the writer than the reader.

[bvf]

25. Yes, but I think you meant

to respond to TTW just then.

[Aerows]

27. I made no mistake. n/t

[bvf]

30. That you're aware of. n/t

[AverageJoe90]

31. I'm sorry, but that was uncalled for.

You should apologize for that last bit. Honestly, not cool.

[bvf]

40. Look at post #3, which I initially responded to.

Whatever you're interpreting as invective didn't start with me. I think I showed admirable restraint, frankly.

[AverageJoe90]

46. "I think I showed admirable restraint, frankly." No. You actively made things worse.

Granted, even if she *may* have overreacted just a tiny bit.....you chose to go on the attack. So you can stow the excuses now, bvf; I ain't buying your crap.

[bvf]

53. Some completely misinterpreted the OP

and went off half-cocked and harsh at the poster.

In the future, I'll be sure to run my posts by you for your approval first.

[AverageJoe90]

54. And you did that exact same thing to her.

Are you truly that lacking in self-awareness? Your hypocrisy is a tad bothersome, TBH.

[bvf]

57. It's called a taste of one's own medicine.

Apparently it rankles some people, but I believe it can serve a purpose.

[AverageJoe90]

60. Oh, spare me.

You know what? Since you're apparently either unaware of your fuck-up or unwilling to acknowledge it, I think I'll just leave you to stir in your own idiocy. Good bye.

[bvf]

62. You obviously didn't mean it the first time.

Here's hoping this one's sincere.

[AverageJoe90]

64. Please just fuck off. OK? Stop responding, then, nt

[Aerows]

21. + 1000

I don't understand the purpose of pointing this out.

[bravenak]

4. I don't think I care.

[cali]

5. nurse in Italy murders 30. and you're using this to make it about race is

repugnant. I don't give a shit if she's purple. I don't give a shit if she's a pastafarian.

[Crabby Appleton]

9. I agree nt

[Journeyman]

6. Thanks to you, I found the writings of Ngalula Kabutakapua, a Black Italian . . .

who writes a blog titled "Balobeshayi."

She enlightened me on the question "Are there Black People in Italy?&quot 1) (yes, there are), educated me to her belief that Biracial Children Should Not Be Ashamed of Themselves (2), and provided a powerful take on a possible solution, "Is this the Answer to Racism?" (3).

Your post was silly and ultimately irrelevant. Ms. Kabutakapua however seeks understanding and answers. Quite the contrast. I thank you for the impetus you provided that brought her writing to my attention.



(1) http://balobeshayi.com/2012/07/18/are-there-black-people-in-italy/
(2) http://balobeshayi.com/2014/01/18/should-biracial-children-be-ashamed-of-themselves/
(3) http://balobeshayi.com/2014/07/20/is-this-the-answer-to-racism/

[rafeh1]

7. the intention of my post is to alert you to selective journalism

if the nurse was muslim or immigrant or brown then fox would high light it. In this way in the popular conscious brown muslim immigrants are mapped to criminals. While she is white and christian then her religion and race has no bearing.

criminals come in all all races colors and religions and all articles should focus on the criminal/crazy action rather than ethnic or religous background. The other posters dont get it.

this article shows how selective demonization works

[lunasun]

36. She would probably get more face time to appeal to Fox's hater crowd

[JustAnotherGen]

29. Those are excellent links

Thank you! It's interesting how "bi-racial" is used by her. I've never considered it - as my citizenship app I had to declare a race recognized by Italy (Mulatta) - black/bi-racial was not acceptable. I will be reading her a lot!

[seveneyes]

10. Was she yelling KCl Ackbar while doing it?

[Nye Bevan]

11. Doesn't the picture at the link provided in the article kind of give it away?

[bvf]

17. The picture is not included in the article

at the Fox News link, though. If she were black, I'm guessing it would be.

[GGJohn]

18. So what?

Much ado about nothing.

[840high]

12. Unrec. - why use race in this?

[bigwillq]

13. Race Card! Race Card! Race Card!

It's your lucky day: You win a Race Card! (applause) (applause)

[IdaBriggs]

15. "White Christian Italian nurse suspected of killing patients she found annoying"

versus "Italian nurse suspected of killing patients she found annoying"

Nice pointing out of "when are race and religion important descriptors" with the answer being "not when they are white or Christian" -- but does one post make the point?

From the Fox home page (some, not all headlines):

"ANOTHER SIGHTING? Ambush suspect possibly seen near post office" (white male)

"Investigators review unsolved murders after man confesses to 7 killings" (white male)

"Jet in crash that killed oil company CEO collided with plow manned by drunk driver" (both white males)

"Ultra-Orthodox Jews attack Jerusalem buses over ads promoting female worship" (non-Christian)

"Televangelist reportedly urged vasectomies, abortion" (white male)

"PISTORIUS SENTENCED Blade Runner gets 5 years in prison for killing girlfriend" (white male)

"New evidence in the racially charged Ferguson murder case" (white male versus black male)

"Casino resists Donald Trump's bid to remove name" (white male)

"Police: California man killed father with sledgehammer" (Sikh male?)

"Ex-teacher, 72, charged with child porn possession" (male, no other details known)

"Fashion designer Oscar de la Renta dies at age 82" (white male)

It looks to me like mainly the "white male" demographic is still the main producer of headlines, which could explain why they have to clarify when a "surprise" non-white male hits the news.

But keep in mind, this is Fox, so it is ENTERTAINMENT, NOT NEWS.

[cherokeeprogressive]

16. Is her race The Tour de France?

[Nuclear Unicorn]

19. Was she motivated by her religion (does she have one)? nt

[rafeh1]

34. george bush was motivated by his religion

george bush was motivated by his religion to invade Iraq and let loose the dogs of war. Saddam was bad dictator but at least he kept the country together and kept the crazies in check. Once the crazies get loose they will use any religion or ethnicity to justify their criminal actions (like ISIS).

The point being FOX selectively uses ethnic and religious background as motivation except when it come to those who are part of the preferred religion/ ethnic group. In that case the demonization is conveniently dropped and it becomes a case of a mad man or criminal..

Religion and ethnicity only comes out in fox when it is the other..

[Nuclear Unicorn]

37. "The point being FOX selectively uses ethnic and religious background as motivation..."

I don't watch Fox but my counter point was, and remains: If religion was not a motivating factor than noting the absence of religion in the reporting makes no sense. I'll wager atheists are capable of committing crimes but I can't ever recall reading, "Atheist kills 3 in botched liquor store robbery."

[displacedtexan]

23. I understood your OP.

You make an excellent point in regard to how FAUX Snooze always reports the race and religion of subjects if they can scare the shit out of sheeple.

[AverageJoe90]

33. I can honestly understand the point, but, OTOH, was it really necessary?

TBH, pretty much everyone here gets that FOX has problems with racist double standards. No need to preach to this choir, amigo.

[Gidney N Cloyd]

35. She's an Italian nurse. In Italy. And her name is Daniela Poggiali.

I hate to profile or stereotype here but sans any more clues my first guess would be she's white and some flavor of Christian.

[WinkyDink]

38. Maybe some things are obvious?

[rafeh1]

42. most of the posters here did not see the obviously missing details

in fact several accused me of being racist just because i pointed that such ethnic/religious details were missing.
If the lady in question was an african or immigrant or muslim those details would not be missing

[AverageJoe90]

47. Listen, man, I understand your point, but.....

It's honestly a moot point. As I pointed out earlier, pretty much everybody here knows that FOX News has a double standards issue. No need to preach to the choir here.....

[UglyGreed]

43. Yes I saw

this SMH because patients were annoying.

[dembotoz]

44. she would fit in with alabama's prison health care

[REP]

45. 'Angels of Death' are usually white nurses

I can't recall a non-white killer nurse. Male and female ones, but all white. Black serial killers are rare to begin with; when one hears about a serial killer, the default assumption is "white."

Not that that matters. A nurse killed patients is disturbing without dragging race into it.

[mountain grammy]

49. If only our SC justice of Italian descent needed a nurse, an Italian nurse....

I'm sure he would be annoying.

[shenmue]

52. Fox

sucks at everything.

They should just start off every hour with the announcement, "Hi, we're full of hate."