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KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
Tue Oct 21, 2014, 01:41 PM Oct 2014

"Douchebag": The White Racial Slur We’ve All Been Waiting For

http://gawker.com/douchebag-the-white-racial-slur-we-ve-all-been-waiti-1647954231

I am a white, middle-class male professor at a big, public university, and every year I get up in front of 150 to 200 undergraduates in a class on the history of race in America and I ask them to shout white racial slurs at me....

First of all, everyone knows that saying anything overtly racist in front of strangers is totally taboo. Even so, most of these kids are not new to conversations about race; the majority of them are students of color, including loads of junior college transfers, student parents, vets, and a smattering of white kids, mostly freshmen. Of course some are just scared of speaking in front of so many people, no matter what the topic.

So I cajole a few of them into "cracker" and "redneck." We can usually get to "hillbilly" or "trailer trash" or "white trash," possibly even "peckerwood," before folks recognize the "Cletus the Slack-Jawed Yokel" pattern of class discrimination here. And being that we are at a top ranked West Coast university, not only do we all share basic middle-class aspirations, but we can feel pretty safe in the fact that there are no "rednecks" here to insult....

"Have any of you ever called some one black or brown or Asian a douchebag?... How 'bout women or gay folks?" The students had no recognizable response to the initial suggestion. But with each refining question—"Ever call a poor person a douchebag?"—their widening eyes became knowing nods, nods became spoken agreement, and the scattered "yes" gathered into a room of collectively blown minds. Including mine. Yes, it turns out, only rich, white heterosexist men are douchebags.
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"Douchebag": The White Racial Slur We’ve All Been Waiting For (Original Post) KamaAina Oct 2014 OP
Clarence Thomas has been called a douchebag here on DU. Nye Bevan Oct 2014 #1
Not Allen West? KamaAina Oct 2014 #16
He's just called stupid. NV Whino Oct 2014 #20
I do that in so many words JustAnotherGen Oct 2014 #21
He has a Facebook page? KamaAina Oct 2014 #23
Oh it's fun! JustAnotherGen Oct 2014 #24
Spongebob Squarehead is such a better name for him. Douchebag is not nearly as specific. Erose999 Oct 2014 #31
ROFL! KamaAina Oct 2014 #32
I use douchebag for everyone who is a douche no matter race, religion, sex or sexual orientation. dilby Oct 2014 #2
Douchebag does not discriminate...applicable to all races, creeds, colors, joeybee12 Oct 2014 #3
I thought it was douchebass? madinmaryland Oct 2014 #15
That's the fishing subgroup of the sports forum...nt joeybee12 Oct 2014 #18
Seriously? kick to mark to check later. uppityperson Oct 2014 #4
"Have any of you ever called some one black or brown or Asian a douchebag?... " BlueStater Oct 2014 #5
Yep...My son says it all the time to his younger brother, and they are the best of friends. justice1 Oct 2014 #9
Yeah, where's the racism? Misogyny perhaps. closeupready Oct 2014 #42
+1. My thought lunasun Oct 2014 #51
gawker fail LOL snooper2 Oct 2014 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author Cleita Oct 2014 #7
I never liked it as it refers basically to the female to insult a male. Cleita Oct 2014 #8
I agree. theHandpuppet Oct 2014 #37
There is a DUer who regularly uses the term GusBob Oct 2014 #10
There is another DUer who has coined the term "douchebadge" KamaAina Oct 2014 #17
"Douchebag" is completely race neutral, in my experience. Marr Oct 2014 #11
I'm thinking "sphincter" fits them better. Historic NY Oct 2014 #12
only a denier of White Male Priviledge would VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #13
Douchebag is pretty much an expression used across genders, races, creeds titaniumsalute Oct 2014 #14
And people paid for this phil89 Oct 2014 #19
I'm pretty sure it's just a sexist slur. n/t Orsino Oct 2014 #22
It is. theHandpuppet Oct 2014 #38
I saw the term "douchebag" described thusly: Maedhros Oct 2014 #43
It's not a slur gecause a douche is useless, or potentially harmful. Orsino Oct 2014 #48
I generally agree, and don't use the term myself. Maedhros Oct 2014 #50
Yep... The empressof all Oct 2014 #52
I've heard the word used for men and women of all races. Rex Oct 2014 #25
This is worth reading in its entirety, no matter what one thinks of the headline. arcane1 Oct 2014 #26
When used with McDouche it could be anti-Irish tho BeyondGeography Oct 2014 #27
I use it for everyone. bravenak Oct 2014 #28
The Lord and Lady Douchebag was an SNL skit. One_Life_To_Give Oct 2014 #29
If "douchebag" gets used more against rich white heterosexual men... Silent3 Oct 2014 #30
Kanye West is the poster douche for douchebaggery. Throd Oct 2014 #33
Correct! KamaAina Oct 2014 #36
If the word "douchebag" didn't exist, I would be unable to drive a car tularetom Oct 2014 #34
Those who use the term are in need of insult vocabulary enhancement. gordianot Oct 2014 #35
+1 Go Vols Oct 2014 #46
Horseshit. Just because a bunch of entitled white pricks ARE dbags, doesn't make it racial NightWatcher Oct 2014 #39
Not so sure about this, TBH. AverageJoe90 Oct 2014 #40
That's not true. Xyzse Oct 2014 #41
The proper slur and only correct word for rich, white heterosexist men is 'Republican'. Bluenorthwest Oct 2014 #44
We have a winner!! theHandpuppet Oct 2014 #45
lol. hardly. La Lioness Priyanka Oct 2014 #47
I've been known to use this term Horse with no Name Oct 2014 #49
First thing that comes up when you type 'douchebag' into Google images tabbycat31 Oct 2014 #53

JustAnotherGen

(31,828 posts)
24. Oh it's fun!
Tue Oct 21, 2014, 02:40 PM
Oct 2014

Yeah - not the public figure one - but the one where he promotes himself.

I get the most pushback when he rants and raves and he's got 100 folks liking him and high fiving him about 'taking back our country' and 'we need to get him(obama)' - and I just pop off with -


You. Funny.


Then I get nonsense about how I'm supposed to use a sarcasm tag.

I think my not editing it speaks volumes.

dilby

(2,273 posts)
2. I use douchebag for everyone who is a douche no matter race, religion, sex or sexual orientation.
Tue Oct 21, 2014, 01:47 PM
Oct 2014

Hell I have called people douchebags over the internet and have no idea who they are other than they are douches.

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
3. Douchebag does not discriminate...applicable to all races, creeds, colors,
Tue Oct 21, 2014, 01:49 PM
Oct 2014

national original, sexual identity, sex...and especially applicable for DU members who visit our Sports Group.

BlueStater

(7,596 posts)
5. "Have any of you ever called some one black or brown or Asian a douchebag?... "
Tue Oct 21, 2014, 01:51 PM
Oct 2014

Uh, yeah, actually.

This is stupid.

Response to KamaAina (Original post)

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
8. I never liked it as it refers basically to the female to insult a male.
Tue Oct 21, 2014, 01:58 PM
Oct 2014

I'm surprised that our militant feminists have not jumped on it as one of their no-no words. Douche, an innocent French word for washing or bathing, has been reduced to an insult and a misogynist one at that when you add the bag to it. I prefer asshole because it's not gender specific and everyone has one. If you want to ramp up the insult you can refer to an animal like a pig's asshole.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
17. There is another DUer who has coined the term "douchebadge"
Tue Oct 21, 2014, 02:23 PM
Oct 2014

to refer to violent, trigger-happy cops. I have appropriated it.

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
11. "Douchebag" is completely race neutral, in my experience.
Tue Oct 21, 2014, 02:04 PM
Oct 2014

I can't say it's gender neutral, as I've rarely seen the term directed at a woman. But race and sexual orientation don't figure into that one at all, at least for me here in Los Angeles.

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
13. only a denier of White Male Priviledge would
Tue Oct 21, 2014, 02:07 PM
Oct 2014

Even be trolling students this way just to prove how equally oppressed White dudes are!

titaniumsalute

(4,742 posts)
14. Douchebag is pretty much an expression used across genders, races, creeds
Tue Oct 21, 2014, 02:10 PM
Oct 2014

I use the word to usually identify someone as an asshole. He's a douchebag or he's an asshole sort of sums it up the same.

Now if I'm really mad I may use douche barge, douche nozzle, or douche waffle.

theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
38. It is.
Tue Oct 21, 2014, 03:07 PM
Oct 2014

Because everyone knows a woman's parts are nasty. It says so in the Bible.

It's definitely NOT a gender neutral insult.

 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
43. I saw the term "douchebag" described thusly:
Tue Oct 21, 2014, 03:36 PM
Oct 2014

A douche is something entirely useless, and harmful to women, hence it's use as a slur.

That seemed accurate, but I still don't use the term myself because it certainly seems sexist.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
48. It's not a slur gecause a douche is useless, or potentially harmful.
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 11:27 AM
Oct 2014

It's a slur, and a sexist one, because it goes in lady parts and is therefore presumed filthy.

 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
50. I generally agree, and don't use the term myself.
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 12:18 PM
Oct 2014

I was simply referring to another's lighthearted attempt to explain it.

The empressof all

(29,098 posts)
52. Yep...
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 12:34 PM
Oct 2014

The douchebag was created to clean those "filthy" lady parts.

Personally I think we should start using enema face as a gender neutral alternative.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
25. I've heard the word used for men and women of all races.
Tue Oct 21, 2014, 02:42 PM
Oct 2014

Said (IMHO) akin to calling someone an asshole. You can call anyone an asshole. Even pets.

One_Life_To_Give

(6,036 posts)
29. The Lord and Lady Douchebag was an SNL skit.
Tue Oct 21, 2014, 02:47 PM
Oct 2014

Douchbag, what would you like on your salad?

Just vinegar and water thanks.

Silent3

(15,219 posts)
30. If "douchebag" gets used more against rich white heterosexual men...
Tue Oct 21, 2014, 02:48 PM
Oct 2014

...then perhaps, for too many people, it's only a last resort to insult an individual for his or her actual behavior or attitude (you know, the stuff we can more rightly hold a person responsible for), a form of insult they fall back on only when taking a jab at a person's economic status, race, sexual orientation, or gender isn't the more convenient potshot.

Beyond that, it may also be that hallmarks of douchebag behavior include abuse of authority and an overblown sense of entitlement, things that rich white heterosexual men are at least a little more likely to fall prey to.

For myself, I think I'm more equal-opportunity in my application of the word, though I'd have to confess that (at least in my mind -- not expressed out loud) if a woman is acting in the same way that would lead me to think of a man as a douchebag, I'd often be guilty of having the word "bitch" pop into my head first.

Throd

(7,208 posts)
33. Kanye West is the poster douche for douchebaggery.
Tue Oct 21, 2014, 02:59 PM
Oct 2014

You're either a douchebag or you're not. There is no racial component here.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
34. If the word "douchebag" didn't exist, I would be unable to drive a car
Tue Oct 21, 2014, 03:01 PM
Oct 2014

Years ago, my daughter in law threatened to not let my grandson ride with me because he got in trouble at school for calling some kid a douchebag. Of course she asked him where he learned such a word and he ratted me out - "grandpa yells it at the other drivers".

However, when it comes to pointing out somebody else's douchebaggery, I honestly believe I'm an equal opportunity observer.

gordianot

(15,238 posts)
35. Those who use the term are in need of insult vocabulary enhancement.
Tue Oct 21, 2014, 03:01 PM
Oct 2014

There are so many ways to insult a person that require creativity and fore thought. For example it is just lazy to use a one-word insult on your average Republican or Fox news contributor.

Go Vols

(5,902 posts)
46. +1
Tue Oct 21, 2014, 03:58 PM
Oct 2014

I have never used the term,and every time I hear it,it makes my mind go back many years to when I remember an actual douche bag hanging from my Grandmothers shower head.

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
40. Not so sure about this, TBH.
Tue Oct 21, 2014, 03:10 PM
Oct 2014

Douchebaggery isn't really exclusive to white folks, for one.

But, raising a good point that some folks on Gawker brought up, you know one word that practically has been used as an ethnic slur by some nastier folks out there? "Privileged".....or more specifically, "White Privileged". Like the word "douchebag", under those certain contexts, it's also meant to be *quite* demeaning, but unlike "douchebag", it really does apply *solely* to a single ethnic group.

Xyzse

(8,217 posts)
41. That's not true.
Tue Oct 21, 2014, 03:12 PM
Oct 2014

I've called many a punk, douchebag.

I generally equate it to someone who feels entitled to do stuff or complain about carp that most others would just shrug off and deal with.

So, it fits many different people. It isn't my fault that it just so happens that white male heterosexuals with an evangelical Christian bent tend to fit that description with an increased regularity.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
44. The proper slur and only correct word for rich, white heterosexist men is 'Republican'.
Tue Oct 21, 2014, 03:45 PM
Oct 2014

We need no other. Republican says it all.

tabbycat31

(6,336 posts)
53. First thing that comes up when you type 'douchebag' into Google images
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 12:38 PM
Oct 2014



I've used the term frequently and interchangeably with toolbag, douche canoe, douche, etc. 90% of the people I've called that have been well one person, my ex boyfriend. He happens to be white, but anyone who acted like him (regardless of their skin color) would be called that by me.
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