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A Petaluma man shot and killed his estranged wife outside her divorce lawyer's office before turning the gun on himself, authorities said Monday.
Kevin Conover, 41, shot his wife, Kim Conover, 43, with a revolver outside a law office on Keller Street in downtown Petaluma about 2 p.m. Sunday, authorities said. He then shot himself.
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There was no restraining order involving the couple, and Kim Conover did not contact police the day of the shootings to report feeling threatened, Lyons said.
Kim Conover had four children, police said. Lyons said Kevin Conover was the father of at least some of them, but that police did not immediately know how many.
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The Magistrate
(95,255 posts)The harm done to Liberty would have been incalculable....
Speck Tater
(10,618 posts)Last edited Mon Apr 16, 2012, 03:52 PM - Edit history (1)
Lawyers do.
What we need is lawyer control. We can't have people walking around outside lawyers offices whenever they feel like it. That kind of risky behavior is just inviting trouble.
ON EDIT: (Apparently some people took this seriously!?!?!)
movonne
(9,623 posts)their kids wouldn't be orphans....
Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)EFerrari
(163,986 posts)It's a lot harder if you don't have a machine that will do it for you.
Speck Tater
(10,618 posts)EFerrari
(163,986 posts)Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)The post to which I replied stated, "...if he hadn't had a gun then he be in jail for assault and battery..." That's simply not something one can state in such an unequivocal manner. Plenty of homicides are committed by other methods. Firearms are more efficient weapons than most, but for someone like the guy in question here (that is, someone very probably determined to kill), there are plenty of options that will get the job done with only slightly greater effort or difficulty.
EFerrari
(163,986 posts)No, it wasn't right unless you accept the NRA talking point that violent crime is trending lower, which only demonstrates that damn statistics can be manipulated to fool the credulous.
Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)I pay very little attention to their pronouncements, save for the unintentional comedy factor. That violent crime is trending downwards is something demonstrated by the Dept. of Justice's NCS stats, and if you've an issue with their methodologies, feel free to state your case (rather than engage in implied ad hominem).
In any case, that's all completely irrelevant to the point I was making, which was that the poster to which I responded made an indefensible claim (that absent firearms, the murder victim in the story would have only suffered assault and battery). At mose, one can onhly legitimately claim that she might have suffered a lesser crime, not that she would have. Surely I needn't repeat that a third time...?
Zalatix
(8,994 posts)abelenkpe
(9,933 posts)Exactly.
otohara
(24,135 posts)another episode coming soon to a TV near you
MADem
(135,425 posts)Bake
(21,977 posts)Bake
DefenseLawyer
(11,101 posts)but it's certainly the case that these kinds of things happen far more often in divorce/custody situations than any other. I've practiced major felony criminal defense for almost 20 years have never had a security issue that would come close to that.
Dokkie
(1,688 posts)When People Lose Everything, They Have Nothing Left To Lose, And They Lose It
Gerald Celente
Not condoning the killing or implying that is what happened here but I have heard some really bad horror stories about family courts where the courts put the screws up one of the parents(usually the man) arse.
banned from Kos
(4,017 posts)pls forgive
EFerrari
(163,986 posts)Restraining orders can be provocative to a certain type of abusive spouse, a challenge. And they are not magic shields against harm.
DefenseLawyer
(11,101 posts)so much as it implies that there hadn't been previous threats or violence between them.