Don't be distracted by the rash of anti-Obama/Democratic party trashing threads

[wyldwolf]

One thing some people in our electorate have shown is they know how to talk loud and complain but can't do too much else.

On Maher's show this weekend, Cornel West, John Avlon and Mary Matalin fought over which political reality should win.

Two of the three in the discussion used facts to back their assertions. One did not.

Bill Maher tried to use Paul Krugman's column as the baseline for the discussion of whether or not Obama's presidency is the disaster Matalin and West claim it is.

John Avlon injected reality toward the end of the segment.

Rather than argue for who is right or wrong, I'll leave it to you.

Right now we're ten days out and there's a sense that President Obama's poll numbers are down... so everyone's running away from Obama. So perspective is the thing we have the least of in our politics but let's keep a reality check here. One of the things about being a Centrist we're going to use an equal standard here. The standard of executive leadership is are things better when someone leaves office than when they entered. And as of today the country is in objectively better shape than it was when Obama took the oath of office. In terms of jobs. In terms of the deficit. In terms of issues like the environment, even working with a Republican congress. On issues like gay rights - a gay civil rights movement where the country is much more united than we were in the past on this issue. So, is he perfect? No.

(Maher then jokingly called out Avlon for bringing facts into the discussion)

http://crooksandliars.com/2014/10/cornel-west-john-avlon-and-mary-matalin

[Frustratedlady]

1. The RW owns the media, so they can say/print whatever they want.

I've always believed they gave Romney a false sense of security when they tried to boost his poll numbers, but look at the shock at the end.

Lying doesn't make it true, so they should live with reality and forget the stupid Rove political ploys. Look where that's gotten them in the past. Of course, it helps if you are planning on playing with the votes on election day.

Just sayin'.

[wyldwolf]

2. All true. But I'm not only referring to the RW... eom

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

3. Obama is not on the ballot.

So I see absolutely no problem with any Democrat who IS on the ballot in a red state distancing themselves from him. And he does those Dems no favours when he comes out and makes statements saying 'they vote for his agenda'.

If you're in a state that loves him, more power to you, hug him tightly, have him campaign for you. If not, keep your distance, and just tell voters what you actually believe in - fair pay, everyone being able to actually get healthcare, etc, without throwing his name in where it will only hurt you.

Stay to the left of the Repub, tell voters you'll work on the issues they care about. Be for the things they say they want in polls. And get re-elected by actually working for those things once you're in office, not just saying you will.