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If you don't vote, you forfeit your right to complain. (Original Post) 2naSalit Nov 2014 OP
Good. Jackpine Radical Nov 2014 #1
Cool. 2naSalit Nov 2014 #2
The First Amendment is in no way predicated on a requirement to vote. Orsino Nov 2014 #3
Actually, I have always looked at that the opposite way dixiegrrrrl Nov 2014 #4
Very valid point. 2naSalit Nov 2014 #5
I hear your encouragement loud and clear dixiegrrrrl Nov 2014 #8
I vote and I complain. JEB Nov 2014 #6
No you don't. hugo_from_TN Nov 2014 #7
^^^^This^^^^ just as non-cooks get to complain about cafeteria food HereSince1628 Nov 2014 #10
Wish it were so. 99Forever Nov 2014 #9
co-signed Blue_Tires Nov 2014 #11
Do both as often as the opportunity presents itself. JEB Nov 2014 #12
as I posted in the other identical thread, apparently I can't complain anyway Doctor_J Nov 2014 #13
It is the responsibility of the people in a democracy to hold public servants accountable. Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2014 #14
Everyone has the right to vote, and everyone has the right to complain. nomorenomore08 Nov 2014 #15
That's a good way to 2naSalit Nov 2014 #17
Complainers who agreed to play the game Tommyb1951 Nov 2014 #16

2naSalit

(86,646 posts)
2. Cool.
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 12:12 PM
Nov 2014

And I just read your post about the high number of voters at your polling place today. That's, hopefully, a good sign.

I once lived in the Madison area and was very active at the time. One of the things I loved about Wisconsin. I'm in rural Montana now and cast my vote at least a week ago by mail-in. I do wish you and your state a turnover in Governorship. Walker is like a boil on the nose of the state.

I do suspect, and sincerely hope, that the American public have awoken to the dangers of voting apathy. I think a return to civics class by the time students complete the fifth or sixth grade in school is vitally necessary for the republic to continue in forward motion.

Good luck to us all and may the progressive politicians win the day.



Orsino

(37,428 posts)
3. The First Amendment is in no way predicated on a requirement to vote.
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 12:28 PM
Nov 2014

One of the responsibilities we all shoulder is covering for those who can't, won't or don't vote.

I would hope that those who don't vote are doing their bit for the country in other ways...but I'll just vote harder.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
4. Actually, I have always looked at that the opposite way
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 01:26 PM
Nov 2014

If I DO vote, I have no right to complain, because I picked/supported the person I am complaining about.

It is sorta like the " you knew who he was and you married him anyway, so stop complaining" logic we hear in families.

Me, I get to bitch about my no good lazy dishonest brother in law because I did NOT marry HIM.

Thus, the joy we share in complaining about Mooselini and Gramps and Mitt, etc.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
8. I hear your encouragement loud and clear
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 02:43 PM
Nov 2014

and appreciate it.
My comment was just focused on the complain concept.

Sadly, I find out that it is not only Alabama where there are hardly any Dem. candidates.

There is one guy running for Sheriff in the county next to ours, he proudly proclaims, in his newspaper ad, in big bold letters
"I am not a Democrat or Republican, I am an AMERICAN"

Just so happens I know him from his business venture, and would not vote for him even if he was on my ballot in my county.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
10. ^^^^This^^^^ just as non-cooks get to complain about cafeteria food
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 02:46 PM
Nov 2014

and just as ride-moochers get to complain about other peoples' driving.

 

JEB

(4,748 posts)
12. Do both as often as the opportunity presents itself.
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 03:21 PM
Nov 2014

Beginning to wonder if either does any good.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
13. as I posted in the other identical thread, apparently I can't complain anyway
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 03:36 PM
Nov 2014

Even though I vote, complaints are not allowed, say the new democrats

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
14. It is the responsibility of the people in a democracy to hold public servants accountable.
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 05:26 PM
Nov 2014

Whether they vote or not.

nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
15. Everyone has the right to vote, and everyone has the right to complain.
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 06:33 PM
Nov 2014

If you don't vote, then you're only exercising 50% (at most) of your rights.

2naSalit

(86,646 posts)
17. That's a good way to
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 07:11 PM
Nov 2014

perceive it. I was repeating what I was taught, doesn't automatically mean I am correct without exception.

 

Tommyb1951

(4 posts)
16. Complainers who agreed to play the game
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 06:54 PM
Nov 2014

I was always taught if you played the game, you accepted the rules and the outcome. You don't agree to play a basketball game, lose, then complain about the basic rules. If you agree to play the game you have no right to complain. Sit out the game and work to change the rules. Its called sportsmanship and being an adult.

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