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MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 12:14 PM Nov 2014

Why I Vote in Person at My Polling Place

This year was the first election in Minnesota that allowed absentee voting in person or by mail without stating a reason for not being able to vote on Election day. A lot of Minnesotans have taken advantage of that to vote early, and that can't be a bad thing. For myself, I voted this morning at my local precinct's polling place, as I have done in every election since my first vote was cast in 1966. I was the 116th voter today. My wife was #118. Someone else snuck in between us at the ballot scanner.

Here are my reasons for continuing to vote in person:

Tradition - That's how I've always done it and I like the process.
Neighbors - I recognized half of the poll workers from the neighborhood. One even lives just down the street and walks her dog every day past my house. I also saw a couple of voters who I recognized from my door-knocking and canvassing. They both said, "Hi."
Election Returns - Where I am, in-person votes are the first to be tabulated on election day. We use optical scanners and paper ballots, and the scanners at every polling place upload their data once the polls are closed. That means I get to see the results from in-person voting right away. I like that.
Stubbornness - I'm an old fart, and set in my ways. I like voting in person and will keep doing it as long as that is possible. That's not a good reason, but it's one of my reasons. I just like the act of filling out the ballot and watching it get sucked into the scanner. I like saying hello to the poll workers. I like sticking the "I Voted" sticker on my shirt. I just like the whole thing.

Voting is our right. It is our responsibility. It is our primary way of helping to choose our own government. It is essential that people vote. If they do not, we will no longer be the power behind our government, from local to federal.

If you haven't already, please go and vote.

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Why I Vote in Person at My Polling Place (Original Post) MineralMan Nov 2014 OP
Don't we know everything about you yet? whatchamacallit Nov 2014 #1
By no means. There's still much left to tell. MineralMan Nov 2014 #5
NOoooooooo.... whatchamacallit Nov 2014 #6
I'm parsing it out, little by little. MineralMan Nov 2014 #7
Ok...going to have to ask... HipChick Nov 2014 #12
I'm sure I'll repeat myself, so it probably MineralMan Nov 2014 #15
"Codger privilege" FTW! riqster Nov 2014 #73
MM is one of the few people I come across regularly on the Internet and ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2014 #9
I'm pretty sure that whatchamacallit meant that as a MineralMan Nov 2014 #17
Yup whatchamacallit Nov 2014 #18
Oh, I knew that. Just wanted to chime in. nt ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2014 #21
Thanks for doing that! MineralMan Nov 2014 #23
You're welcome, MM. nt ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2014 #26
We pretty much do the same thing Skidmore Nov 2014 #2
Me and my whole office goes every election at 1:45pm. JaneyVee Nov 2014 #3
Fun! cyberswede Nov 2014 #8
That's a great tradition! MineralMan Nov 2014 #22
From another old codger Jim Beard Nov 2014 #4
I'm a huge techie HipChick Nov 2014 #10
How would you feel if you had to stand in line for many hours to cast your ballot? Bandit Nov 2014 #11
If I had to do that, I'm sure I'd meet some interesting people. MineralMan Nov 2014 #19
I like to vote that way, too cyberswede Nov 2014 #13
I always vote in person. bigwillq Nov 2014 #14
Voting is our right...That is why we vote by mail. We all get together, it has become a tradition. Tikki Nov 2014 #16
Sounds like you've started your own new tradition. MineralMan Nov 2014 #20
Not so new...we have been doing this for over 15 years... Tikki Nov 2014 #55
I agree with the old traditional way of doing it! logosoco Nov 2014 #24
Stickers Rule! MineralMan Nov 2014 #25
My great grandmother was a suffragist sarge43 Nov 2014 #27
That's a great reason! MineralMan Nov 2014 #33
Thanks sarge43 Nov 2014 #45
I like to vote in person also. William769 Nov 2014 #28
Republicans closed down 1/2 of the rural voting places in my county, so now B Calm Nov 2014 #29
Good for you for not being discouraged! hedgehog Nov 2014 #48
I voted three weeks ago. Waiting til election day is far too risky for me ecstatic Nov 2014 #30
I agree with you. Shit happens. Vote early/by mail if you can. nt SunSeeker Nov 2014 #37
+1. "A bird in the hand is worth two in the woods". nt Zorra Nov 2014 #111
I was number 80 to vote this morning. Jamastiene Nov 2014 #31
"There was barely any Democratic Party presence there at all..." Jenoch Nov 2014 #39
"Democrat" judges CreekDog Nov 2014 #61
Huh? Jenoch Nov 2014 #66
Should be "democratic". riqster Nov 2014 #67
I am unaware of that. Jenoch Nov 2014 #71
It's more complicated, grammar is involved. riqster Nov 2014 #79
I don't often refer to the Democratic Party Jenoch Nov 2014 #80
Fair enough. Just explaining why someone corrected you on usage. riqster Nov 2014 #83
I was talking about the people outside that you have to walk through, Jamastiene Nov 2014 #100
That does not hapoen in Minnesota. Jenoch Nov 2014 #114
I'm not sure of the feet, but they have to stay back some from the actual entrance. Jamastiene Nov 2014 #118
I can't ever remember Jenoch Nov 2014 #119
In my county, they are always there, a few feet back, but there. n/t Jamastiene Nov 2014 #122
I voted by mail-my commute and work hours preclude in- person voting. riqster Nov 2014 #65
Aww, I was really happy to have some I voted stickers for my Jackson. Jamastiene Nov 2014 #123
Jackson makes some very good axes. riqster Nov 2014 #124
I am not a glutton for punishment and hate standing in lines. RebelOne Nov 2014 #32
I have posted this several times now. Jenoch Nov 2014 #41
Just came back from my polling place. DinahMoeHum Nov 2014 #34
Wish I could vote leftieNanner Nov 2014 #35
Thanks for voting, no matter how you do it! MineralMan Nov 2014 #36
You cannot get a cool "I Voted!" sticker by mail, can you? FrodosPet Nov 2014 #38
Nice. Ours are red with I Voted in white. MineralMan Nov 2014 #40
I'll vote after work. Jenoch Nov 2014 #42
We're counting on your vote! MineralMan Nov 2014 #44
I have never missed voting in an election. Jenoch Nov 2014 #58
Speaking of old farts CanonRay Nov 2014 #43
Well, I don't care when anyone votes, or where. MineralMan Nov 2014 #46
No he didn't put you in your place, he was wrong CreekDog Nov 2014 #63
I generally vote in person on election day myself lark Nov 2014 #47
I vote in person on Election day because... meow2u3 Nov 2014 #49
That's how it was in Minnesota until this year. MineralMan Nov 2014 #51
I don't like to be around people PasadenaTrudy Nov 2014 #50
That's a good reason. I'm just glad you voted. MineralMan Nov 2014 #53
I, too, am an ancient traditionalist. JayhawkSD Nov 2014 #52
Funny--I was thinking pretty much the same thoughts as I went to vote Jackpine Radical Nov 2014 #54
I'm glad to hear about the large turnout in your state. MineralMan Nov 2014 #56
If everyone could vote by mail or on line upaloopa Nov 2014 #57
Voting by mail can still be manipulated, sadly. MineralMan Nov 2014 #59
My guess is voter ID laws reduce our chances at upaloopa Nov 2014 #60
The Republicans tried to enact voter ID in Minnesota MineralMan Nov 2014 #62
You check to make sure your ballot is received and if not, vote in person CreekDog Nov 2014 #64
OK. That sounds relatively foolproof, MineralMan Nov 2014 #70
But if your ballot is spoiled, it's kaput frazzled Nov 2014 #87
I miss the old voting booths with the curtain and the big metal handle. 3catwoman3 Nov 2014 #68
I've never been in a place that had those old voting machines. MineralMan Nov 2014 #74
It looks as if I am not the only one... 3catwoman3 Nov 2014 #84
there is nothing wrong with voting in person CreekDog Nov 2014 #69
There's nothing inherently wrong with any voting method. MineralMan Nov 2014 #75
There's a reason I vote on election day here in BC OnlinePoker Nov 2014 #72
Well, I wouldn't like that method much at all. MineralMan Nov 2014 #77
We like to go in person stopwastingmymoney Nov 2014 #76
Good luck with the results. MineralMan Nov 2014 #78
Yes, California is safely Blue stopwastingmymoney Nov 2014 #81
I identify with the old fart rationale... charliea Nov 2014 #82
On the other hand, Oregon has excellent turnout numbers. MineralMan Nov 2014 #90
Yeah, it's consoling ;-) charliea Nov 2014 #103
We do pretty well in Minnesota, too. MineralMan Nov 2014 #104
Well Damn! charliea Nov 2014 #112
Minnesotans vote. We do. MineralMan Nov 2014 #113
I'm another old fart who likes the tradition. Curmudgeoness Nov 2014 #85
You're not the only one who misses those old voting machines. MineralMan Nov 2014 #91
I despise early voting Reter Nov 2014 #86
Think That's Great dballance Nov 2014 #88
All in all, I agree that voting by mail should be MineralMan Nov 2014 #92
Already did. eggplant Nov 2014 #89
It will be interesting to see how many wrote that in. MineralMan Nov 2014 #93
I'm a disabled man with chronic back pain. geomon666 Nov 2014 #94
Well, as long as your ass brings the rest of you with it... MineralMan Nov 2014 #95
It's the best part of me so I just let it do what it wants. geomon666 Nov 2014 #96
LOL! MineralMan Nov 2014 #97
I used to go to the precinct and live vote, but glowing Nov 2014 #98
Thanks for your story and for voting. MineralMan Nov 2014 #99
I vote by mail because the savalez Nov 2014 #101
That would be a good reason. MineralMan Nov 2014 #102
I should have done that. savalez Nov 2014 #117
I voted in person. PADemD Nov 2014 #105
Thanks for voting! MineralMan Nov 2014 #106
Number 58 in my small village in southern Illinois at 8 a.m.. justhanginon Nov 2014 #107
Thanks for your reply! MineralMan Nov 2014 #108
I like to vote in person also. Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2014 #109
Cool. It feels good to go somewhere to vote. MineralMan Nov 2014 #115
Did it! To my surprise, there were young folk there, and the worker who helped me said they had.... Tarheel_Dem Nov 2014 #110
Sounds Promising. MineralMan Nov 2014 #116
I always vote in person Abq_Sarah Nov 2014 #120
I vote in person, too, because I want to be the one who puts my ballot into the scanner. I tblue37 Nov 2014 #121

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
15. I'm sure I'll repeat myself, so it probably
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 12:33 PM
Nov 2014

doesn't matter. I'm old, so I tend to tell the same stories over and over again. It's the codger privilege.

 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
9. MM is one of the few people I come across regularly on the Internet and
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 12:29 PM
Nov 2014

feel that I know almost personally. He has a nick but doesn't hide behind it. I think that's a good thing, though, despite the fact that I don't always agree with him and he often annoys the shit out of me. Pretty much like any friend I can name. Many times I do agree with him and I like this particular OP.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
17. I'm pretty sure that whatchamacallit meant that as a
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 12:35 PM
Nov 2014

friendly tease. As my father once told me, "Son, if you don't laugh at yourself, others will do it for you." He's a wise man, or maybe just a wise guy.

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
2. We pretty much do the same thing
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 12:16 PM
Nov 2014

and for the same reasons. We're going as soon as my husband gets off work this afternoon.

 

Jim Beard

(2,535 posts)
4. From another old codger
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 12:20 PM
Nov 2014

who feels the same way. I will be voting in about one hour. Know all the people working there.

Bandit

(21,475 posts)
11. How would you feel if you had to stand in line for many hours to cast your ballot?
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 12:30 PM
Nov 2014

Some people have a hard time finding a place to park, or just don't want to run into that special person they have been avoiding for some time. I am a very firm believer in "Vote By Mail". Every state that has initiated it has seen a significant increase in "turn-out". In fact those states that do have "Vote By Mail" have some of the best "turn-out" in the nation.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
19. If I had to do that, I'm sure I'd meet some interesting people.
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 12:38 PM
Nov 2014

Both in California, where I used to live, and in Minnesota, where I've lived since 2004, precincts were small, so that never happened. Here the population of my precinct is just over 2000 people, many of whom are too young to vote.

I have no problem with voting by mail, and I realize that it has increased turnout in many states. I hope that opportunity continues to grow, but I'll still vote in person at my local polling place, as long as that option is available.

cyberswede

(26,117 posts)
13. I like to vote that way, too
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 12:32 PM
Nov 2014

This morning, my husband and I got to the polling place a couple minutes after they opened at 7:00 am. We knew most of the poll workers, and several of the other voters. It was fun.

He was voter 6, and I was voter 9 (I took longer to vote for some of the non-partisan judges on the back of the ballot).

We were home by 7:15, ready to take the kiddos to school & head off to work.


 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
14. I always vote in person.
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 12:32 PM
Nov 2014

Just my choice. I like going to the polls. My polling place is never really too busy, and I am still of sound body to where I am physically able to go to the polls, so I do.

Tikki

(14,557 posts)
16. Voting is our right...That is why we vote by mail. We all get together, it has become a tradition.
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 12:34 PM
Nov 2014

Have a bite to eat. Bring out all the information. Mark our ballots. Then, usually our oldest son drops them off
at the post office on his way home.

In less than a week we can look online at the County site and make sure they have received and processed our votes.

Love, love this way of voting.

The Tikki family.

Tikki

(14,557 posts)
55. Not so new...we have been doing this for over 15 years...
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 01:57 PM
Nov 2014

Our county has had absentee voting for many years...Now almost everyone
I know votes absentee. We have been on permanent absentee like, forever.


Tikki

logosoco

(3,208 posts)
24. I agree with the old traditional way of doing it!
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 12:45 PM
Nov 2014

There is something about coming together as a community to make a difference. Plus, it was a good physical thing to see for my grandsons.
I am lucky that I can go in the middle of the day when it's not as busy, so that helps. No waiting in line.
I made a big ceremony out of sticking the sheet in the scanner, and the poll worker said "You just changed the world!". I think that was a good thing for my grandsons to get the meaning, whereas if I had a mailed ballot, it is not as exciting.

And who doesn't love stickers?

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
25. Stickers Rule!
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 12:46 PM
Nov 2014

It's nice that you took your grandkids with you. I also love the poll worker's comment. It does change the world, or can anyhow.

sarge43

(28,941 posts)
27. My great grandmother was a suffragist
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 01:08 PM
Nov 2014

I enjoy voting in person because I like to think she's standing next to me. This one's for you, Grandma Shaw.

Also, for all MM's reasons

sarge43

(28,941 posts)
45. Thanks
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 01:46 PM
Nov 2014

We're not voting just for ourselves. We vote for all those who came before us, who couldn't vote, who struggle to vote. We also vote for all those who will come after us. This is something new in history. Not that long ago most of us did not have that right.

 

B Calm

(28,762 posts)
29. Republicans closed down 1/2 of the rural voting places in my county, so now
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 01:12 PM
Nov 2014

I vote early at the county courthouse.

ecstatic

(32,709 posts)
30. I voted three weeks ago. Waiting til election day is far too risky for me
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 01:14 PM
Nov 2014

I've missed several off year elections/primaries that way.

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
31. I was number 80 to vote this morning.
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 01:15 PM
Nov 2014

A special thank you to the Republican Party of my county for giving me a list of, as they said, "the most conservative candidates to vote for including the nonpartisan conservatives." Those are always the tricky ones here in NC, but I already did my research and knew who I was going to vote for, but their list helped me to double check my list to be sure no conservatives conservative enough to satisfy the Republican Party accidentally got on my list. My research was sound. None matched. So, really, they gave me a list of people to be sure NOT to vote for. How convenient.

There was barely any Democratic Party presence there at all, but if I had gone in unprepared, that list would have come in handy. If I had not done my research weeks ago and already had my list ready, I might have actually needed their list to compare and contrast. The last two weeks have been super hectic and I have been with my baby boy in and out of the hospital a lot. Thankfully, I had done my homework a long time ago and knew who I was voting for already and my baby boy should be ok now. Plus, the new guitar case for the Jackson has a second sticker since I got it earlier this year. This one said I voted today. The last one said My vote counted.

Voted and know I voted for the right people and not the people on the list handed to me. Check.

Baby boy home and not hurting any more. Check.

Guitar case has some more decorations. Check.

It's been a good morning.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
39. "There was barely any Democratic Party presence there at all..."
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 01:41 PM
Nov 2014

At the polling place?

In Minnesota, there are both Republican and Democrat election judges. don't know if there are independent or Independence Party judges.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
66. Huh?
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 02:37 PM
Nov 2014

There are Republicans and Democrats sitting at the tables working at the polls where I vote. Is it different where you vote?

riqster

(13,986 posts)
67. Should be "democratic".
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 02:39 PM
Nov 2014

"Democrat" as you used it was re-created as a pejorative by The Rove. Made ads where the "democ" was smaller than "rat", and so on.

Using it that way reinforces the GOPee meme of "rat".

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
71. I am unaware of that.
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 02:44 PM
Nov 2014

Where I come from, a group of people who generally vote for the more liberal candidats who have a (D) after their name are called and self-identify as Democrats, although in Minnesota we are known as DFLers (Democrat-Farmer-Labor Party).

riqster

(13,986 posts)
79. It's more complicated, grammar is involved.
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 02:52 PM
Nov 2014

One would say "I am a Democrat", but not I belong to the "Democrat Party": in the second case, we would say "Democratic Party". Similarly, we would say "Democratic judge" and so on.

A few links:

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrat_Party_(epithet)

http://www.npr.org/blogs/ombudsman/2010/03/since_when_did_it_become_the_d.html

http://www.dailywritingtips.com/democrat-is-a-noun/

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
100. I was talking about the people outside that you have to walk through,
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 03:36 PM
Nov 2014

on the way inside to vote, the ones handing out cards, pencils, and other campaign stuff.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
114. That does not hapoen in Minnesota.
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 06:26 PM
Nov 2014

It is against the law to hand out camoaign materials within 100 feet of the polling place. Campaign buttons, t-shirts, any campaign material cannot be visible inside or eithin 100 feet.

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
118. I'm not sure of the feet, but they have to stay back some from the actual entrance.
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 07:11 PM
Nov 2014

At my polling place, where you have to park and walk to get to the entrance, you still have to walk through them to get to the door. It has always been that way even when I had different polling places when I lived in other areas and before they closed down that last polling place and moved it to a church.

riqster

(13,986 posts)
65. I voted by mail-my commute and work hours preclude in- person voting.
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 02:37 PM
Nov 2014

No stickers for any of my cases, although my P-Bass and Tele both have old ones on their headstocks.

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
123. Aww, I was really happy to have some I voted stickers for my Jackson.
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 08:59 PM
Nov 2014

I finally got a Jackson! I can't believe they made some cheaper Jackson guitars. They are still great playing guitars and sound amazing. This one is stock and sounds great! I love it when guitars come already sounding great and don't have to be tweaked or modified.

riqster

(13,986 posts)
124. Jackson makes some very good axes.
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 07:09 AM
Nov 2014

I use cheapies like Squiers for gigs and keep the fancy ones mostly at home. Had too many vintage basses stolen, back in the day.

I will say that both Squire axes played well out of the box and have been reliable, comfy tools since day one. Wish politicos could say the same!

RebelOne

(30,947 posts)
32. I am not a glutton for punishment and hate standing in lines.
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 01:29 PM
Nov 2014

I vote early whenever possible, either by mail or early voting.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
41. I have posted this several times now.
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 01:43 PM
Nov 2014

But Paul Wellstone's last campaign taught me to vote in person on election day. Actually, I only voted absentee one time when I was in college.

DinahMoeHum

(21,794 posts)
34. Just came back from my polling place.
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 01:32 PM
Nov 2014

I prefer to wait until the morning rush is over, then go over there.
Fewer people, fewer hassles.

leftieNanner

(15,124 posts)
35. Wish I could vote
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 01:33 PM
Nov 2014

in person. We moved up to Oregon from California 5 years ago. Oregon is all vote-by-mail. I miss being at the polls. Worked as a poll inspector for a number of years. It was a really looooooong day - but such an important part of our democracy. Thanks for the post MM. I'm only a half a step behind you in the codger department.

FrodosPet

(5,169 posts)
38. You cannot get a cool "I Voted!" sticker by mail, can you?
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 01:39 PM
Nov 2014

AND I got to say hello to an old friend who is working the polls.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
42. I'll vote after work.
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 01:45 PM
Nov 2014

I have never needed to wait more than ten minutes. I like to vote in person, at the polls. It's sort of a ritual.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
58. I have never missed voting in an election.
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 02:17 PM
Nov 2014

Well, I may have missed a local election back when they were held in the spring.

I remember getting my licensed changed (after a move) just in time to vote in a presidential referendum. It's the only time I voted for a republican. I just wanted to be able to say I voted for Harold Stassen for President. He was Minnesota's 'Boy Governor'. By today's standards, he would be a Democrat.


http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_Stassen

After Japan surrendured and the POW camps were abandoned, the first American Pappy Boyington saw wading ashore was Stassen, who was on Halsey's staff.


CanonRay

(14,104 posts)
43. Speaking of old farts
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 01:45 PM
Nov 2014

I was trying to explain to my older brother about how great our vote by mail system is here in Oregon. He said "I vote at the polling place on election day. That's when you're supposed to vote". Put me in my place.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
46. Well, I don't care when anyone votes, or where.
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 01:46 PM
Nov 2014

As long as they vote, especially if they're Democrats. Republicans? I suggest they vote tomorrow.

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
63. No he didn't put you in your place, he was wrong
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 02:34 PM
Nov 2014

It's a place and time to vote, it's not the only time and place to vote.

Voting early is a legitimate option and his being old fashioned doesn't give him a pass to be wrong and think he's right.

lark

(23,105 posts)
47. I generally vote in person on election day myself
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 01:46 PM
Nov 2014

However, this year I took advantage of early voting. The early voting place is across the street from my regular polling place, so it still has that neighborhood feel, I still get the I voted sticker, put my ballot into the machine, all of that. The reason I did this is because I almost didn't get to vote in the last election. My pollilng place is a small Presbyterian church with limited parking. Last time their lot was full, the parking at the school across the street was full and I had to drive several blocks to find a place to park. By the time I got there, there was a long line outside the building. They locked the door 3 people behind me. I came that close to not being able to vote and would not risk that again. My neighborhood has gotten darker and during this process the voting place was moved from one where there was lots of parking to one where it was very limited. Hmm, voter suppression maybe? Anyway, I was not about to take the chance that I might not get to vote if I went there today so early voting it was.

Hope the shenanigans are kept to a minimum today, but I'm sure there will be many efforts to block Dems from voting. Hope we show up in such volume that it doesn't matter and we win anyway!

meow2u3

(24,764 posts)
49. I vote in person on Election day because...
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 01:48 PM
Nov 2014

1. There is no early voting in Pennsylvania.

2. Absentee ballots are available only for people who can't make it to the polls on Election Day, either because they have to out of town, in the military, they're laid up, or disabled.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
51. That's how it was in Minnesota until this year.
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 01:49 PM
Nov 2014

They dropped all the requirements, so many people took advantage of the opportunity and voted early.

 

JayhawkSD

(3,163 posts)
52. I, too, am an ancient traditionalist.
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 01:50 PM
Nov 2014

California has been voting early and by mail for years, but I go to the poll in person and on election day.


Tradition - Yes, me too. I like the sense of participation in the process.

Neighbors - Yes. Pretty much never do I go to the poll that I do not greet a friend and/or neighbor in the process.

Election Returns - I don't care about the earliness of seeing my return counted, the time of count is meaningless and only the final count matters. I tend to wish the idiots on television would keep their yaps shut until all of the returns, including mail in balllots, have been counted.

Stubbornness - I'm old, but I don't buy into the "that's the way I've always don it" nonsense. I use computers fur business and entertainment, and the new ways of doing things have enriched my life in a whole lot of ways. I do, however, like sticking the "I Voted" sticker on my shirt.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
54. Funny--I was thinking pretty much the same thoughts as I went to vote
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 01:57 PM
Nov 2014

this morning. In WI we've had the early voting option for some years & sometimes I've done it that way, but I do like to get out & see what's happening at the Town Hall on Election Day. I was #501 at about 9:15 am. They were very efficient & organized, & doing a beautiful job of handling the amazingly large turnout.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
56. I'm glad to hear about the large turnout in your state.
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 02:00 PM
Nov 2014

I hope that portends a good result for Democrats. Thanks for the reply.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
57. If everyone could vote by mail or on line
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 02:13 PM
Nov 2014

the voter ID laws would be useless.
Voting at polls lets repukes steal the election.
You should go register by proving who you are and then your ballot comes in the mail. You fill it out and mail it back. No voter I'd required.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
59. Voting by mail can still be manipulated, sadly.
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 02:18 PM
Nov 2014

There are many opportunities for votes to be "lost," before being counted. Depending on where you are and what party is in control of handling mailed-in ballots, there is always a chance that your ballot could disappear and never be counted.

One of the things I like about paper ballots and optical scanners is that the count can be checked manually. In Minnesota, that happened both in 2008 and 2010, across the entire state. Those manual recounts verified that the scanner counted ballots were accurately tallied. The only issues arose from absentee ballots, and that almost cost Al Franken his election.

I'd like to think that mail-in ballots would be handled correctly, but I'm not entirely certain that will be true in every county in the United States, frankly.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
62. The Republicans tried to enact voter ID in Minnesota
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 02:31 PM
Nov 2014

in 2011. They created a constitutional amendment. Fortunately, the voters voted that down in 2012 and voted out the Republican legislative majority at the same time.

Voter ID sucks.

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
64. You check to make sure your ballot is received and if not, vote in person
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 02:37 PM
Nov 2014

My county posts if my ballot was received, it's as secure as voting in person (same kind of ballot too).

And for those who drop it off in person, I don't think there is any more security in doing a hand ballot on the spot versus a mail in ballot.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
70. OK. That sounds relatively foolproof,
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 02:44 PM
Nov 2014

but you live in California, which has had safe, honest elections for decades, pretty much. I lived there for 40 years.

Every state does things its own way, though. The people who run the elections in many states are the county clerks in individual counties. There have been many instances of issues in those county clerk offices during elections in some states. Wisconsin is an excellent example, where one county clerk appeared to have made many votes disappear in a recent election.

There is no completely safe system of voting. Only observation by citizens can prevent shenanigans in some places.

California has a good election system. So does Minnesota. That's not true in some states, however, as we've seen.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
87. But if your ballot is spoiled, it's kaput
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 03:09 PM
Nov 2014

When voting in person, if you mismark a ballot, you are immediately informed when you put the paper ballot into the reader. It will spit it out, and you will have a chance to get a new ballot and fill it out again. Same for a computer screen, which tells you when you've made a misstep.

I'm an experienced voter (have voted every local, state, and federal election since 1972), and it happened to me once about 6 or 8 years ago. I screwed up on the hundreds of judicial retention yes/no questions (must've filled in the "no"s first and then accidentally added a yes for a candidate when I filled in the rest.

When you mail in your ballot, if it's spoiled it's spoiled. And this affects less educated or experienced voters. Indeed, one could say it's a form of voter suppression. Just a cautionary note. No system is perfect--and that includes mail-in. There's tons of room for error or mishandling.

3catwoman3

(24,007 posts)
68. I miss the old voting booths with the curtain and the big metal handle.
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 02:40 PM
Nov 2014

I liked the feel and clicking sound of pulling down all the litttle levers, and the sense of completion and accomplishment that came with the satifying metallic "thunk" the handle made when you opened the curtain to register your vote.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
74. I've never been in a place that had those old voting machines.
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 02:44 PM
Nov 2014

I know they were common in many places, though.

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
69. there is nothing wrong with voting in person
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 02:42 PM
Nov 2014

but I sense some here on DU think we should vote in person for the same reason they think we should all write in cursive.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
75. There's nothing inherently wrong with any voting method.
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 02:47 PM
Nov 2014

My OP was about my own personal preference for voting. That's all. It's not an argument for anything.

I don't think that everyone should vote in person. I'm just describing my own preference. There is a huge difference.

I haven't written in cursive for thirty years, BTW. While in the USAF, I often had to write down stuff very quickly in Russian, and it screwed up my English writing badly, since I got used to writing constantly in a different alphabet. So, I switched to lettering my English, using the old architectural drawing lettering style I learned in my drafting classes. It's almost as fast to write, and is perfectly legible.

OnlinePoker

(5,722 posts)
72. There's a reason I vote on election day here in BC
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 02:44 PM
Nov 2014

I don't know what the laws are in the U.S., but in BC, absentee ballots aren't counted on election night. They are included in the final results tabulation 2 weeks after the election. In the 2013 election for instance, 170,000 of the 1.8 million votes were cast early. This means when the results came out that night, about 10% of the votes cast weren't counted. When the final results were released 2 weeks later, at least one riding that I know of switched from one party to the other. In really close elections, this could leave the governing of the province up in the air for a couple of weeks. Numbers of absentee ballots have gone up every election since they were first allowed, and I can't see this changing anytime soon.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
77. Well, I wouldn't like that method much at all.
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 02:48 PM
Nov 2014

Votes should all be counted on election day, regardless of how they were cast. That's my opinion, of course.

stopwastingmymoney

(2,042 posts)
76. We like to go in person
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 02:47 PM
Nov 2014

We have our tradition too. We are permanent absentee in California because my husband is blind. I don't know how he would navigate in the booth alone.

We sit down this afternoon and fill out our ballots, which we've already decided on the big stuff. Then we wait for the school traffic to clear out and we'll head over to the high school to drop off our ballots. We love to see all the lovely ladies volunteering.

We always see neighbors too and then we'll wear our stickers proudly while grocery shopping.

I think I'll buy a bottle of champagne, for luck

stopwastingmymoney

(2,042 posts)
81. Yes, California is safely Blue
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 03:00 PM
Nov 2014

My county votes about 70% Democratic, that's why I don't mind that my absentee may not be counted until later.

Of course, as a good DUer, I'm very interested in Senate and House races across the country. I'll be refreshing DU and watching Rachel all night on the edge of my seat!

on edit, we do have some really interesting ballot measures to watch too.

charliea

(260 posts)
82. I identify with the old fart rationale...
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 03:01 PM
Nov 2014

But I live in Oregon, and I no longer have a polling place to go to. Instead I drop my ballot off, on election day, at the nearest drop box. We have easy access, plenty of time to study the issues, voters pamphlets with clear explanations, arguments for or against any initiative that anyone wants to make, and I still feel like I should be pulling a lever or punching a button in the same place as other members of my community. Damn hard to remove early programming.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
104. We do pretty well in Minnesota, too.
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 03:46 PM
Nov 2014

It's a good competition to have. Every state should be trying to be #1 in voter turnout.

charliea

(260 posts)
112. Well Damn!
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 04:53 PM
Nov 2014

Just looked it up and Minnesota is the reigning champ for percentage of voter turn out. Number 1 for 2012 and 2008. Good stuff indeed!

And sadly Oregon was not as good as I'd been led to believe:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2013/03/12/the-states-with-the-highest-and-lowest-turnout-in-2012-in-2-charts/

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
85. I'm another old fart who likes the tradition.
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 03:05 PM
Nov 2014

I have always voted in person, and will continue to do so as long as I can. But speaking of tradition, I still wish we had those big old voting machines with the levers instead of those new-fangled touch screen machines. I loved pulling the curtain closed and flipping those levers!

 

dballance

(5,756 posts)
88. Think That's Great
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 03:10 PM
Nov 2014

I'm glad you voted in person. There is something about going to a polling place that I miss with our all vote-by-mail system here in Oregon. However, vote-by-mail makes it so easy to vote. Sitting down at my desk with my ballot I can do research on the measures and candidates on my computer while I make up my mind.

I'd push for vote-by-mail everywhere. It does at least a couple of things. It makes it easy to vote. It provides a paper ballot that can be manually recounted if need be.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
92. All in all, I agree that voting by mail should be
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 03:17 PM
Nov 2014

available to everyone, even if it meant that people were required to vote that way. The turnout numbers in Oregon make a very good argument for that voting method.

eggplant

(3,911 posts)
89. Already did.
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 03:15 PM
Nov 2014

And really enjoyed writing in "Teachout/Wu" for governor.

I got a GOTV call from the Sean Eldridge campaign last night, and told them that we were definitely voting, voting "D" except for the write-in thing. The caller said that he had heard a lot of people saying the same thing, and that he agreed that Cuomo just doesn't represent us.

Warmed my heart. I hope enough people do it that it at least gets a mention in the returns.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
93. It will be interesting to see how many wrote that in.
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 03:19 PM
Nov 2014

It's far from me, but I'll keep an eye out for those results.

geomon666

(7,512 posts)
94. I'm a disabled man with chronic back pain.
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 03:20 PM
Nov 2014

And my ass stands in line to vote. One year I didn't and I felt like a total failure (the year Rick Scott was elected). NEVER AGAIN!

geomon666

(7,512 posts)
96. It's the best part of me so I just let it do what it wants.
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 03:23 PM
Nov 2014

Have to be careful where they put the sticker though.

 

glowing

(12,233 posts)
98. I used to go to the precinct and live vote, but
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 03:26 PM
Nov 2014

Getting my husband to participate like it was a national holiday was problematic. (BTW, today really should be a national holiday for voting). Back when he was a Republican and liable to vote for Bush, I didn't care if he made it, but in 2008, he changed party affiliation to Democrat at the same time I voted in the primaries. In 2010, I was working GOTV efforts, and had to take time from coordinating efforts to pick my husband up and head to the polls. So, that year, I went ahead and signed up for mail in ballot for FL... That way it all came to the house and you couldn't get any lazier than that. I mailed mine out, but he waited too long and dropped his in a box yesterday...

Plus, I have to say, living in a red part of my county, it's been easier to send in my ballot than deal with idiot poll workers who see a Democrat and try and challenge my vote nearly every time I came through during the national elections. They would either try to challenge my photo ID because I was blonde in that picture and now wear it brown to dark brown, or they would try to challenge my signature and say it didn't look right... Nearly every time I felt I was going to have to throw down with the lady checking me in on the paperwork... Here I am standing there with an ID, vote every time, a wallet full of other documents, and my husband signing in, and some Republican poll worker is trying to say they don't think I'm who I am and I may need to vote on a provisional ballot... Thankfully, there are always more than one worker at these places and enough with brain. Seriously, why try and hassle a young voter by insisting that you aren't you. So, after the 2010 debacle, we checked the box for mail in ballot. And in the privacy of our home, we can fill out the ballot together while researching issues and non-partisan candidates. (They also had a problem with me trying to "help" my husband fill in those items... I'd have to send him in with a cheat sheet because we "couldn't talk"; which is also wrong on their part).

I'm just glad to be showing our son that voting is a normal thing and that he should always do so. The only regret I havenin not showing up in person to vote now is that he doesn't get to go in, fill out a kiddie ballot, and wear out a ton of "I voted" stickers... But he sees us filling them out at home and yesterday, his dad dropped his off, so he got a sticker. At the very least I'm passing on this tradition of being an American. And without being married to me, my husband wouldn't even be a registered voter, let alone actually vote. That wasn't taught by his parents very well. And even in my family, I'm the more likely to make sure to participate and vote or donate my time to campaign. My Mom was more active earlier on when she was on the school board in our small town, but being in VT isn't as necessary to show up for a Presidential vote because it's a state in the bag for the D. It wouldn't change unless the R's actually have policies and initiatives that work for poor, rural areas. Using race isn't reason enough to loose logic while voting.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
99. Thanks for your story and for voting.
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 03:29 PM
Nov 2014

Everyone has different reasons for voting the way they do, and it was good to read yours.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
102. That would be a good reason.
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 03:44 PM
Nov 2014

I'd also talk to the people at the local County Clerk's office and complain about it. Polling place workers have just one job: facilitating voting. If they're not doing that, they shouldn't be there. I'd complain.

savalez

(3,517 posts)
117. I should have done that.
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 06:56 PM
Nov 2014

Instead I just signed up for "vote by mail". Someone else may have complained because they moved it to new location (the Library). Just now I got curious and went over there to take a look and it looked okay. Everyone seemed friendly and happy. Maybe next time I'll vote that way. I do miss the "I Voted" sticker.

PADemD

(4,482 posts)
105. I voted in person.
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 03:49 PM
Nov 2014

Turnout is heavier than the spring primary. I was 139 at noon and 99 at 4 p.m. in the primary.

As a kid, voting was a big deal in our neighborhood. People got dressed up (it was the 50's) and went to the polls. A car always showed up to take my great grandmother to vote. When my kids were little, I always took them to the polls with me to impress on them that voting is important.

justhanginon

(3,290 posts)
107. Number 58 in my small village in southern Illinois at 8 a.m..
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 04:32 PM
Nov 2014

It was raining but there seemed to be a lot of people starting to come in as I left.
I had considered early voting but that visceral feeling of voting in person at my regular polling place won out. Gotta have my "I Voted" sticker.
Started voting in the late 50s and still remember standing in line around 2 hours for the presidential election around 1960. It was bitter cold and snowing that morning in Ferguson Mo. where I used to live but a really good satisfied feeling as I left after having voted. Don't think I have missed any local or federal elections since. And still have no reason to vote for a republican!

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,330 posts)
109. I like to vote in person also.
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 04:40 PM
Nov 2014

I'm self employed so I can make sure I'm in the neighborhood on Election Day.

Last week, my smarty pants boyfriend brings in the mail carrying a large envelope. I ask "what's that?" And he replies "that's my mail in ballot". Wtf? He didn't even vote when I met him. Now he gets all fancy and votes by mail. Hrumph.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,235 posts)
110. Did it! To my surprise, there were young folk there, and the worker who helped me said they had....
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 04:42 PM
Nov 2014

been turning up all day. He mentioned how unusual that was for a midterm. Let's hope that portends well for Kay Hagan.

tblue37

(65,403 posts)
121. I vote in person, too, because I want to be the one who puts my ballot into the scanner. I
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 08:27 PM
Nov 2014

have gotten so suspicious and cynical about Republican vote tampering that I no longer entirely trust that any ballot that I don't mark and put into the scanner right then and there will be counted.

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