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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsCNN saying Obama will have to compromise with GOP more, after election.
Blitzer and Gergen: Obama will have to alienate his liberal base and compromise MORE with Republicans if they hope for a Dem win in 2016. Must show their willingness to govern from the center.
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giftedgirl77
(4,713 posts)RockinLeft
(10 posts)Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)Blitzer and Gergen (CNN in general with Fox) have covered for the deliberate obstruction committed by the GOP.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)that sounds a lot like ... a 2014
kelliekat44
(7,759 posts)I say Obama should govern according to what he believes is the right thing for the nation. If that causes us the Presidency in 2016 than so be it. The country will get what it seems to be longing for...hateful old misogynist white men and their Stepfford wives running everything and the running the country into the ground. Think Reagan, Bush, and Bush.
Old Nick
(468 posts)Ford did it a lot, so why not Obama?
bravenak
(34,648 posts)They don't actually legislate anymore.
louis-t
(23,295 posts)An endless stream of bullshit bills that they will claim are bipartisan, then they will whine "he just won't work with us." I say there will be more bills than in the last six years before March.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)I don't consider a pack of lunatics trying to take away rights legislating. Besides, all Obama has to do is say the bill was his idea and he can't wait to sign it, and they will start slamming their own bills.
louis-t
(23,295 posts)Maedhros
(10,007 posts)I don't expect that to change much.
LawDeeDah
(1,596 posts)Fuck them all with a rusty chainsaw, the treasonous vermin.
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)should give up on our values? How is that a win?
LondonReign2
(5,213 posts)Maedhros
(10,007 posts)GitRDun
(1,846 posts)Congress does nothing. My feeling is Dems will hold Senate. If so, business as usual, or, rather, a lack of business.
If R's happen to take a majority, the Republicans in the Senate can expect to get quite a bit of what they have been dishing out in obstructionism.
Lastly, even if bad legislation gets thru to Obama via budget reconciliation or rules changes in Senate, you can expect the veto pen to come out hot and heavy.
I have my issues with Obama but he's no powder puff. CNN is out of their minds.
lsewpershad
(2,620 posts)must think we are all stupid. Why don't they tell the obnoxious repukes to cooperate with the President for the sake of the masses.
Andy823
(11,495 posts)Doesn't mean it will happen. Those clowns are trying to out due the morons on faux news. Does anyone really care of give shit about what they say on CNN?
DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)We've already seen that tacking toward the right gets Democrats nothing. I'd rather see the President golf everyday for two years than for him to accede to more Republican demands.
malaise
(269,050 posts)grasswire
(50,130 posts)Plouffe, Tweety, etc.: Democrats must realize that traditional institutions are outdated, and change their views.
Rex
(65,616 posts)Gergen lol
grasswire
(50,130 posts)Shocking how stupid the yammering is.
NO ONE is advising Democrats to be DEMOCRATS. Or even POPULISTS. We have lost the MSM narrative, apparently.
Rex
(65,616 posts)The M$M figured out they could lie all they want to and nobody could do anything about it or stop it from happening. Since then, all they seem to do is work hard to get the GOP elected, while bad mouthing Dems.
It should be illegal for mainstream media to influence elections imo.
rock
(13,218 posts)if he wants to engage in compromising with the repiggies.
LordGlenconner
(1,348 posts)The reality of it is the GOP are going to skull fuck us tonight. Then they're going to spend 2 years crowing about it. In the process of that crowing they will, as always, overplay their hand dooming their chances in 2016.
It's basically going to be a repeat of 2004-2006.
City Lights
(25,171 posts)Johonny
(20,851 posts)so why the * would he. Given Ted Cruz says priority one in an all Republican congress is to impeach him, how much compromise is Obama likely to give them on that issue. The GOP base already thinks Obama has never compromised, is a socialist, Marxist, African, Fascist, dictator, so good educating of the public CNN.
kentuck
(111,102 posts)Last edited Tue Nov 4, 2014, 05:52 PM - Edit history (1)
Democrats control Executive Branch and half of Legislative Branch, and it's OK for Republicans to filibuster and obstruct everything? But if the Repubs control the Legislative Branch, the House and Senate, then the President is obligated to compromise with them? Thanks for clearing that up.
Tarheel_Dem
(31,234 posts)The third branch of government is the Judiciary.
kentuck
(111,102 posts)I fixed it. I think? Thanks for the corrections.
Maedhros
(10,007 posts)Democrats control one branch of government - the Executive. They control one part of the Legislative Branch - the Senate. Neither party, in theory, controls the Judicial Branch (but we know how that really works).
rufus dog
(8,419 posts)Must be given the marching orders
BKH70041
(961 posts)Election first. Then we'll see what needs to happen.
okieinpain
(9,397 posts)And that's why dems are un-happy with the president
unblock
(52,253 posts)of course not. they just kept saying how popular he was (at 39% approval).
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)always more than happy to smear anyone supporting Obama for a shekel or a pence.
Baitball Blogger
(46,735 posts)GusBob
(7,286 posts)BO doesn't have to do a goddamned thing. Because the only thing the GOP wants is to repeal health care (veto) and the house will bring up impeachment (which these asshats in the media want). If they impeach 2016 will be a DEM whitewash and the end of the tea party
Each extremist bill the GOP proposes will get the Democratic "Base" active.
As long as folks like Sanders and Warren are willing to show willingness to fight in the Senate.
spanone
(135,844 posts)P.S. FUCK CNN
grasswire
(50,130 posts)I would snap, finally, and start governing like a DEMOCRAT!! An FDR DEMOCRAT!
Man from Pickens
(1,713 posts)Let's see who people actually vote for and in what number, then make decisions from there as to what the next steps are.
derby378
(30,252 posts)If Obama compromises more, he's a wimp.
If Obama compromises less, he's a sore loser.
If Obama compromises the same amount, he's a lame duck.
If Obama rescues a kitten from a burning building tonight, he's an opportunist.
No matter what, the deck has been stacked against him, and the cards are being dealt from the bottom of the pack.
Blaukraut
(5,693 posts)He has nothing left to lose. Will not be on the ballot in 2016. He can use the bully pulpit in his last two years. Legislation is going to be stalled, no matter what. The perception that it is, and always was, the Republicans who are responsible for the gridlock MUST be hammered home in the next 24 months, so we can maximize our already pretty decent chances to flip the Senate back to the Dems, keep the presidency in Dem hands, and make serious inroads in the house, as well.
Obama has the power to steer the conversation here.
SomethingFishy
(4,876 posts)That's what the Republicans think compromise is, they say something and you do it.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)BlindTiresias
(1,563 posts)BlindTiresias
(1,563 posts)Or more importantly, Obama will likely take the signalling that he should work with them more and will be very reluctant to utilize his veto powers. He basically gets to solidify his legacy as a "great negotiator" by moderating the really very extreme stuff that will be coming down the pipe soon assuming the Republicans win a majority.
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)hearted woman and the poor half frozen snake. She takes in the snake and feeds it and warms it by the fire. Then the snake bites her with poison fangs.
"Oh shut up silly woman, said that serpent with a grin, you knew damn well I was a snake before you took me in"
3catwoman3
(24,006 posts)Stock up on veto pens if necessary. Those who have refused again and again to compromise one hairsbreadth have a hell of a nerve suggesting President Obama do what they would not.
Roland99
(53,342 posts)I'll take that left-of-center pendulum swing back any day now!!
Nite Owl
(11,303 posts)didn't work. The GOP doesn't know what the word means.
Where has CNN been for six years? They never told them to compromise with Obama.
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)That would be moving left at this point.
Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)gopiscrap
(23,761 posts)B Calm
(28,762 posts)Yes, cut social security and medicare and do away with obamacare and give more tax breaks to the rich and all that jazz so we can win in 2016 - America Demands It!
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,414 posts)Republicans get to do what they want. Have I got that correct?
budkin
(6,703 posts)WRONG.