IOWA: Joni Ernst, Really? ... Really??????

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[font size="3"]Iowa’s Joni Ernst: Obamacare is bad because people should rely on churches for help[/font]

An Iowa Republican candidate for U.S. Senate perhaps revealed more than she meant to about why conservatives are still so resistant to the Affordable Care Act (ACA), President Barack Obama’s health care initiative, also known as “Obamacare.”

In audio obtained by Iowa Public Radio, Senate hopeful Joni Ernst told a group of reporters that the reason Republicans oppose Obamacare is because the job of caring for the poor is simply not the purview of government. The poor, she said, should rely on churches and charitable organizations for help.

“We’re looking at Obamacare right now,” Ernst said. “Once we start with those benefits in January, how are we going to get people off of those? It’s exponentially harder to remove people once they’ve already been on those programs.”

“We have lost a reliance on not only our own families, but so much of what our churches and private organizations used to do,” she went on. “They used to have wonderful food pantries. They used to provide clothing for those that really needed it, but we have gotten away from that. Now we’re at a point where the government will just give away anything. We have to stop that.”

Jonathan Chait at New York magazine wrote, “That’s the fundamental belief that motivates most, if not all, the conservative opposition: Health care should be a privilege rather than a right. If you can’t afford health insurance on your own, that is not the government’s problem.”

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/10/iowas-joni-ernst-obamacare-is-bad-because-people-should-rely-on-churches-for-help/

[Blue Owl]

1. Joni's packin' while the votes are hackin'

n/t

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17. Joni's got a gun...

Aerosmith, right?

[upaloopa]

2. Well they will get the representation they deserve.

Like Wisconsin, and North Carolina, you have a choice right now to make things better but will they? No they will vote to screw themselves then parade on Mondays crying that they got screwed.

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6. "they will get the representation they deserve"

If she wins, we all will be screwed. Iowa may very well determine Senate control.

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13. Well thank you Iowa. I hear she will win

easily.
I hope Obama has his veto pen sharpened and the repubs in congress make regular asses out if themselves.
Since we can't just use this election to do what is right it looks like we are going to have to take a licking and then maybe we wake the fuck up and quit fighting among ourselves and replace the repukes we can.

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14. I hope he SAYS he will use that pen to veto the sh*t the GOP will send him ...

I don't want to hear any of that "the American people have spoken; I get the message; I will work with Republicans" talk.

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18. I think he learned that lesson.

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When I hear that the repubs will get things done, I think those are things we don't want done. I'll take two more years of grid lock.

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24. wave that pen!

things we don't want done: Keystone and TPP for starters

[upaloopa]

26. Well hope those don't happen

[NightWatcher]

3. When God closes a Michelle Bachmann he opens a Joni Ernst

Comedy genius ‏@FrankConniff had that nugget of wisdom.

She's the next batshit crazy target for the comedians.

[Kalidurga]

4. Republicans can stop now

they are cranking them out way to fast. It's already a target rich party.

[Frustratedlady]

7. Boy, you've got that right.

All those pigs she castrated will be screaming their curly tails off because each comedian will work castration into the joke in some way. Joni will have her ego deflated in record time.

Michelle was too ignorant to realize she was the butt of their jokes.

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10. Luke Russert TWICE has said Ernst is now a potential 2016 Republican VP candidate

[Frustratedlady]

16. Suppose that's why he's standing in front of all the Joni signs?

I can't believe no one has called him on it.

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19. I think MSNBC pundits/reporters aren't allowed to call out other MSNBC pundits/reporters

same happened when Chuck Todd said Grimes had disqualified herself ... not a word from Rachel or Lawrence.

[Politicalboi]

5. She didn't even give interviews to newspapers

Doesn't that mean anything to these people.

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25. she agreed to, then didn't show up

Braley agreed and did

[maryellen99]

8. And if she wins

The media will make her a serious contender for the GOP in 2016 to go against Hillary Clinton.

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12. Luke Russert has TWICE said she's a potential VP candidate for 2016

unbelievable!

[hifiguy]

33. The Spudlet says a lot of things.

Were it not for his last name he'd be the fill-in weekend sports guy at a 5000 watt radio station in East Jesus, North Dakota.

[emulatorloo]

9. Koch Bros have spent millions to hide her extremist positions

Ads present her as a nice mom, combat vet who grew up on a farm. Other ads dump raw sewage/lies on Braley.

She has refused to sit down w newspaper editorial boards and answer policy questions.

DNC and Braley run ads that show her actual policy statements, but are being heavily out spent by Kochs and Rove's American Crossroads.

That being said, this race is not over yet. I am cautiously optimistic still.

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15. "That being said, this race is not over yet"

that's right!

come on, Iowa, get your **** together!

[emulatorloo]

20. Big turnout today, keep your fingers crossed.

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21. yep ... posted by Dawson Leery --->

Iowa early vote hits record high

see http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025757204

[exboyfil]

29. Ghost town at my poll in the heart of Braley country

Hope that isn't reflective of the entire state.

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31. ...

http://www.politicususa.com/2014/11/04/record-early-voter-turnout-iowa-good-news-democrat-bruce-braley.html

[2naSalit]

11. My instant reflexive responnse

when I see or hear her (besides and incredible urge to puke) is that she is the female incarnate of Rmoney!

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22. hope her fate is the same as Rmoney!

[2naSalit]

28. Me too.

If I were in Iowa, the choice would be simple. Not that there's anyone to brag about here in Montana.

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23. Iowa GOPer: 'Dictator' Obama's 'Impeachment' Should Be An Option

State Sen. Joni Ernst, the Republican nominee for U.S. Senate in Iowa, said that President Barack Obama had "become a dictator" and that he should be punished for his executive actions, even if that meant "impeachment."

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"I do think that yes, he should face those repercussions, and whether that's removal from office, whether that's impeachment," Ernst said in response.

read more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/joni-ernst-impeachment-president-obama

[spanone]

27. she makes bachmann look bright, and that's a chore

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30. you sure about that? ... take a look a this --->

GOP Candidate Joni Ernst Says Number of People With Ebola in the U.S. Is Just “Opinion,” Not Fact

by Ryan Denson
November 4, 2014

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When a member of the press, Esquire blogger Charlie Pierce asked Ernst more in-depth questions on Ebola, she responded with how one would expect a conservative to respond; it’s not fact:

“What should he have done about Ebola? One person in America has Ebola.”

“OK, you’re the press, you’re giving me your opinion,” Ernst responded

“It’s not an opinion, only one person in America has it,” he responded.

Her response is just as generic: “Make sure that all of these agencies are coordinating together…make sure he is sharing with the American people he cares about them, he cares about their safety.”

Gee, why didn’t President Obama think of that first? Well played, Joni. However, thanks to Republican-led budget cuts, that might not be as easy as Ernst might think. You can’t hate “bureaucracy” and cut from it then expect it to work how you want it.

And you want to President to share with the American people? How about his address on October 18, when he dedicated his weekly address to the Ebola crisis and reassured the public that “the United States will continue to help lead the global response in West Africa. Because if we want to protect Americans from Ebola here at home, we have to end it over there.” Oh and how about the next week, on October 25, when he said that “Patients can beat this disease. And we can beat this disease. But we have to stay vigilant. We have to work together at every level—federal, state and local.”

Obviously Joni Ernst a) doesn’t read the news, b) just hates Obama and disregards facts, or c) is just really, really oblivious. Or she is all three. I’m going with that. Republicans have no problem disregarding the facts and using their position to inject fear into the public to get the votes. This is true in Ernst’s case.

This disregard of the facts is almost as hilarious as Republican Congressman Jason Chaffetz’s brain-dead moment when he was confused as to why the Surgeon General wasn’t handling the Ebola crisis (Hint: it’s because we don’t have one).

Please, Iowa, do NOT elect this wacko to the Senate.


http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/11/04/gop-candidate-joni-ernst-says-number-of-people-with-ebola-in-the-u-s-is-just-opinion-not-fact/

[hifiguy]

32. She running to replace Batshit Bachmann

as the upper midwest's Resident Mental Case?

She needs a place with soft walls.

And BTW, the private charities will be the first to tell you that they can't scratch the surface of the needs they try to fill. Without government they'd all go under in 90 days.

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34. Luke Russert on MSNBC now basically calling it for Ernst

Russert had earlier talked about Ernst being a VP candidate in 2016

[hifiguy]

35. See my post #33 above

for my feelings on the Spudlet.

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36. the polls haven't closed and "Spudlet" is extrapolating a victory based on turnout numbers

good grief!

[mnmoderatedem]

38. Ugh! Don't say that!

I've a native of Iowa and a current resident of Minnesota. I'm doubly embarrassed. Not to mention King.

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37. kick for Braley!