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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsNow that voting is over, it is time to call out all the chickensh*t dems who
refuse to tout the accomplishments of the President in their states and districts and stayed silent during this projected slaughter.
Manchin
Chisox08
(1,898 posts)Sarah Ibarruri
(21,043 posts)whiny, and self-abhorring. Why else would Democrats attack their own president and their own candidates, if not because they're being paid?
Oh, wait, they're not being paid? They do this for the Republicans? And for free?
Chisox08
(1,898 posts)I did my part and not only voted but I made phone calls and volunteered for Pat Quinn here in Illinois. My next focus is on get Rahm Emanuel's ass out of city hall. I'm tired of seeing Democrats not giving people a reason to vote for them other than they are not Republicons. Stop being afraid to upset conservatives because they will not vote for you anyway no matter how much you try to compromise with them.
I hope that the lesson from this election isn't in 2016 they need to be more conservative because I hate to think about what will happen if they do.
TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)Fuck everyone who ran away from this good, smart man.
PragmaticLiberal
(904 posts)This quote says it all:
There have been $2 billion in ads shitting on the president and no one to defend him, a senior administration official told us. He is very fired up to get this campaign behind him, to run through the tape.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/11/obama-reboot-112432.html#ixzz3I9kyW21w
denvine
(800 posts)I'm sick of these wishy washy Democrats who run away from progressive values. Dammit, that is how President Obama won and that is also why I don't regret my vote for him. EVER!!! If asked, there is not one good reason to be unhappy with him, except for the fact that people are told to be unhappy with him. I am sick of the Democratic leadership! I live in Kentucky. There were so many things to hammer Mitch f__king McConnell on and they wasted their time running away from President Obama and playing defense. The Republicans are mean, they stick together and they have the backing of Huge Corporate Donors. All the Democrats had to do was motivate the base. Make them realize the repugs are behind income inequality, low wages, inequality for women, unbelievable cost of education and our run down infrastructure. The list could go on and on. They failed in a big way to call the Repubicans out. Once again, they let the Republicans control the dialogue and we are poised for at least 2 years of dark ages again. I'm pissed and I don't know how to make the Democratic establishment know. Time for the pitchforks!
calimary
(81,267 posts)And AMEN to "Fuck everyone who ran away from this good, smart man" ALSO.
maced666
(771 posts)Good, smart man but today he got rejected by a nation.
Ads lies?
Mostly.
But they worked.
Rex
(65,616 posts)He is GOLDEN...would have added numbers to their rolls. Doesn't make sense to me.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)I don't get why DU has such trouble grasping that fact.
Rex
(65,616 posts)I don't get why that is so hard to grasp.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)The fact that there aren't enough Democratic voters to begin with is precisely their problem.
Rex
(65,616 posts)Really simple, but not for some.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)The candidates who didn't ask for Obama to come are the ones trying to get elected in places where Obama is very unpopular.
Rex
(65,616 posts)So the M$M says he is unpopular, they are biased toward the GOP - but hey you got to 'go to the dance with the one that brought you' and the Dems that shunned the POTUS paid the price.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)And, incidentally, we have some purple state/district wins, that could have been losses too if Obama had campaigned for them.
Rex
(65,616 posts)No they would have won more, you can try and play CYA for the DNC all ya want to. They lost because they did not embrace the POTUS. Simple.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)Obama's unfavorables in Kentucky exceed his favorables by 20 points. In what fantasy world does his showing up there help Grimes?
Rex
(65,616 posts)Really I have to explain this to you?
Recursion
(56,582 posts)Do I have to explain this to you? Republicans and independents in Kentucky dislike Obama more than Democrats like him. This isn't rocket science; it's simple numbers.
Your bold words doesn't mean anything - she lost because she didn't embrace the POTUS. But keep telling yourself otherwise.
mountain grammy
(26,621 posts)here in Colorado the local media crap keeps drumming us with the "unpopular president" and his numbers are "plummeting."
The news media has elected Republicans. They pay better!
Rex
(65,616 posts)How will we ever know? They shunned Obama and lost, I guess that is okay for some people - but not for me that expects Dems to support other Dems...that way people that might not have turned out to vote, get energized and do go vote! More numbers on the rolls.
We will never know since so many played it 'safe' and lost big.
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)and she lost by a 2-to-1 margin.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)principles. Pretending to be Republican Lite failed once again.
lady lib
(2,933 posts)nt
nitpicker
(7,153 posts)And as such CANNOT either endorse or denigrate/disrespect the administration.
Unless they are contractors (smile)...
hfojvt
(37,573 posts)Whenever the Bears get beat by the Packers, the offense usually starts a fight with the defense.
After all, that is the best way to win the next game.
blueknight
(2,831 posts)Alison Lunderman Fucking idiot Grimes, alienated are large part of the african american votes in louisville and lexington because of this. im tired of working my balls off and sending my money to support gutless fucking idiots
butterfly77
(17,609 posts)Lifelong Protester
(8,421 posts)whether or not she voted for the POTUS, I think sunk her (just my opinion, of course)
Now I wish I had the money back that I sent her.
MariaS
(553 posts)AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)uponit7771
(90,339 posts)blackspade
(10,056 posts)Running as Rethug lite NEVER works in KY.
jillan
(39,451 posts)Nite Owl
(11,303 posts)When your in public you don,t tell the world about your last argument at home.
You always defend your family. These idiot dems went over the line.If you can,t defend one of your
Own will you be there for your constituents?
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Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)Two more hours if that means anything to your whole agenda here. The entire Blue West Coast is still voting.
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)LittleBlue
(10,362 posts)This was a referendum on him and most of them wanted him nowhere near their states.
mfcorey1
(11,001 posts)him if they had the guts! They did not necessarily have to make him their agenda but talk about some of the positives instead of campaigning in a bubble like they were a bunch of independents, scared of their "blue shadows". They are probably already figuring out how to suck up to the rethugs, like Corey Booker. Even though he won, he is not to be trusted.
Sarah Ibarruri
(21,043 posts)WE did not tear into the Republicans. Instead, we all sat around and said, "Oh wow. Maybe the Repukes are right! Wow."
HoosierCowboy
(561 posts)Those spineless ones are losing. It didn't cost them anything to show some courage and be able stand with a popular but controversial President, I don't give a shit about the Fox News mantra.
The President is not unpopular, but he's a lame duck
LittleBlue
(10,362 posts)Most of those who invited him to their state weren't as competitive. He's more likely to be invited to races that are safe.
sendero
(28,552 posts).... Obama is polling in the 40s. Politics might not be a real science, but experience shows that tying yourself to that low a popularity is a losing strategy.
Those who distanced themselves from Obama did what they had to do. Why don't you blame Obama for pissing off the voters, a much more realistic placement of blame.
mfcorey1
(11,001 posts)places that he did visit, there did not seem to be a whole lot of people pissed off with Obama
sendero
(28,552 posts)... from the don't get it crowd. THE PEOPLE AT THE MEETS WERE HIS FANS, A SELF SELECTED AUDIENCE.
For christ's sakes.
mfcorey1
(11,001 posts)I have mine. They clash. Peace. BTW, The stacking the deck is originally a right wing thing.
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)sendero
(28,552 posts)The 40s approval ratings? Yeah it's bullshit but that's what it is. Deal with it.
Cha
(297,237 posts)source. Always has it out for the President and now.. "this is all Obama's fault". Of course it it.. NOT. But there's no talking to a brick wall.
ballyhoo
(2,060 posts)like the Repubs will have a one seat Senate majority.
uponit7771
(90,339 posts)Recursion
(56,582 posts)The "average" Senate race this cycle is in a state that Obama lost by 8 points in 2012.
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)that it has been very difficult for a good number of people to admit that the president's race is almost central to his misfortunes. Mary Landrieu has been the only Democrat running in a RED state who has bravely told the truth. Maybe she loses tonight. Maybe not, but my respect for her has increased so much because of her brave stance. If she loses, she loses with dignity and not because she was too cowardly to stand up for what is right.
mfcorey1
(11,001 posts)Cha
(297,237 posts)jtuck004
(15,882 posts)mvd
(65,173 posts)Can't see how you really win over voters by running away from the accomplishments of your President. You can tout them and be your own person. Unfortunately it didn't help Grimes to run away.
DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)and raise you a Grimes.
butterfly77
(17,609 posts)he is a republiCON who shows up on Fox 24/7 to talk down the President and the party fake bitch!
morningfog
(18,115 posts)How many more live in a state with marriage equality?
How much better is the market doing?
How much does gas cost?
It goes on and on. And despite repug obstructionism.
For Dems, this should have been: Give us Congress and we will build on Obama's success and progress. Help us end obstruction and broken government.
mfcorey1
(11,001 posts)Sarah Ibarruri
(21,043 posts)AndyTiedye
(23,500 posts)onecaliberal
(32,861 posts)We are called names for pointing out the spineless assholes calling themselves Dems, in congress. There were so many good things to run on, minimum wage for one. Mitt fucking Romney is for minimum wage for Christ sake.
If we can't get true progressives elected that are not beholden to the power and big money we are completely fucked.
The dumb fucks in this country are about to get what they voted for. Let's see how they blame the Dems when they're in charge of everything.
I hope Ted Cruz brings on crazy the likes of which we've never seen.
world wide wally
(21,743 posts)Maybe more people should have instead of preaching this " party unity" bullshit.
Yeah, that worked well. ALL of us against a successful President...Brilliant!
BlindTiresias
(1,563 posts)Experts at snatching defeat from the jaw of victory.
Old Nick
(468 posts)Starting with Grimes.
WorseBeforeBetter
(11,441 posts)That is a HUGE problem.
This isn't all about Obama. He's a factor, but there is a huge problem with namby-pamby Democrats. Christ, give me Teddy or FDR. SICK of the triangulation.
whereisjustice
(2,941 posts)they get paid no matter who wins.
HoosierCowboy
(561 posts)between those Dems that distanced themselves from Obama and losing their election. First casualty in Kentucky, watch the others go down in flames. Did we need them?
A note to future candidates. Sticking to the easy path doesn't win you elections, no matter where you live.
mfcorey1
(11,001 posts)Recursion
(56,582 posts)Good lord. Being *more* liberal isn't going to help somebody win in Kentucky or Montana.
SHRED
(28,136 posts)Drama much?
redruddyred
(1,615 posts)perhaps it would be more constructive to direct our anger towards... republicans?
I'd say every single contributing member on this site votes, at the very least. that's kind of an impressive accomplishment these days.
FairWinds
(1,717 posts)Lets see, after running as a progressive he . .
Dumped Howard Dean as Dem Party Chair, and
locked up Chelsea Manning for 37 years while
letting the banksters walk.
Right from Day One, had no room at all in his
admin for progressives.
Offered to cut SS, will likely sell us out
on internet neutrality, and REALLY crappy trade deals.
I could go on an on . .
We're talking GOP light here.
Sure I voted Dem, but did it while holding my nose.
(I've been an active Dem for 45 years.)
AND I REALLY DON'T APPRECIATE THE FOUL LANGUAGE
ON THESE THREADS. YOU'RE MAKING YOUR MUM LOOK BAD.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)We got Alan Grayson in again.
Republicans want to claim this is "The American People" rejecting Obama's "far left agenda" when in actuality it was a case of a lot of incumbents getting reelected and a few Dems who saw their districts redrawn to go from blue to red.
w4rma
(31,700 posts)zeemike
(18,998 posts)Call them checkenshit and many of them are, but it is not their fault.
To use a famous quote...The fault dear DU is not in the chickenshit democrats but in ourselves.
We allow it to continue and play the game...and the game is not winnable if you don't dance to the tune...not winnable even if it is popular.
But that is all doom and gloom and I see an option on how to deal with it...comunity action...get to know your neighbors and form or join clubs...get involved in any way in local government you can and elect dog catchers if need be.
But we know all that and many people are doing that...forming communities.
Changing this system is for the young, because it takes a generation at least.
demwing
(16,916 posts)Pathetic...
brewens
(13,586 posts)His ad boasting about voting against "Obamacare" really pissed me off! The vote too of course. He ran as a Republican but he didn't get elected in the first place that way. Republicans weren't going to vote for him no matter what he said. They wanted one of their own to help them control the House. He pretty much threw away all his advantages of being the incumbant. Playing it as Republican light just doesn't get you anywhere in that situation.
Obama had a very poor administration and that sunk the party. Obama's admin repeatedly screwed up his plans and that's what voters are angry about. Obama should have been firing these idiots instead of defending them - especially Eric Holder that guy is horrible.
Cha
(297,237 posts)Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)They politic so much that they're too afraid to support the leader of their own party. Now I'm starting to understand why some on the left view Democrats as weak in general. I get they're running in red states, but it says something when certain candidates refuse to admit to voting for the President. You're already running as a Democrat, so you might as well tell the truth.
FairWinds
(1,717 posts)"The people dont want a phony Democrat. If its a choice between a genuine Republican, and a Republican in Democratic clothing, the people will choose the genuine article, every time
"
Sadly, I have to put Obama in the category of
"Republican in Democratic clothing",
and Hillary too for that matter.
mfcorey1
(11,001 posts)bullsh*t.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)...in a country with no center. Well played, 'centrists'.
B Calm
(28,762 posts)Leadership have learned a valuable lesson.
mfcorey1
(11,001 posts)B Calm
(28,762 posts)FairWinds
(1,717 posts)I'm a Vietnam vet, and 50 year active democrat.
I'm not going anywhere, little fella.
mfcorey1
(11,001 posts)IronLionZion
(45,442 posts)what's the liberal minority going to accomplish?
Where's my pony?
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)hate Obama and she needs to distance herself.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
DallasNE
(7,403 posts)So the Democrats stayed home. GOTV doesn't work unless your candidates give you something to make you want to vote for them. That is the way it has always worked.
The sad part is that there were a lot of attractive Democratic candidates but they ran really bad campaigns -- example: Kentucky where Grimes wouldn't say who she voted for in 2012 for President. Sure, it was a gotcha question but it was a softball gotcha question. Who are these advisors that turn attractive candidates into bumbling fools?
B Calm
(28,762 posts)so you don't go out and alienate your base by being afraid to say who you voted for. The base will stay home on election day. Hopefully democratic politicians will stop acting like republicans from this point on!
intheflow
(28,473 posts)Grow a fucking spine! I'm looking at YOU, Mark Udall!