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Dumb ass Americans. "Here, let me cut off my nose to spite my face. I'll show Obama!" (Original Post) BigBearJohn Nov 2014 OP
When They Find That Their Right-wing Beulahland DIsn't Come To Pass Vogon_Glory Nov 2014 #1
Next recession will hit in about 6-9 months as austerity creates still more slack KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 #4
let me put it this way. hollysmom Nov 2014 #2
Thanks for your wonderful response BigBearJohn Nov 2014 #3
K Cha Nov 2014 #5

Vogon_Glory

(9,117 posts)
1. When They Find That Their Right-wing Beulahland DIsn't Come To Pass
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 02:04 AM
Nov 2014

When they realize that their right-wing Beulahland didn't come to pass, callously remind them that they got what they voted for.

I don't think most voters realize that voting Republican is NOT pick-and-choose. Instead, it's a complete package, a package about which our Democratic leaders have done a wretched job of explaining to less-involved voters.

When President Obama got elected in 2008, I dared to hope that the surviving US middle classes wouldn't have to go through an economic rock bottom like the Great Depression to wise up. After this election, I fear that it may take cold and heat and hungry children and suffering preventable and treatable illnesses to help put the electorate on the path to wisdom after all.

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
4. Next recession will hit in about 6-9 months as austerity creates still more slack
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 03:39 AM
Nov 2014

in aggregate demand. Expect unemployment to go up to 8-9%. This time around, it will feel harsher with food stamps cut and unemployment insurance now subject to being used as a political bargaining chip. That's just the known knowns.

As for another 'Great Depression,' I doubt that would happen now. For one thing, Social Security provides a huge demand for goods and services that won't be going away. For another, various other safety net programs like a weakened unemployment insurance program and food stamps will also work to stimulate demand somewhat. (Economists define a 'depression' as a shrinkage of 20% or more in GDP).

What is certain is that there will be a hell of a lot more suffering, most of it entirely preventable.

hollysmom

(5,946 posts)
2. let me put it this way.
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 02:08 AM
Nov 2014

I have a liberal friend, she knows and admits she is a liberal - but she lives on Staten Island. To night I was talking to her and she says she loves Chris Christie and how ht talks to people and she had the nerve to consider me rude when I asked her if she were insane. Then, we are talking about facebook and I have na interesting mix of "friends", then she tells me she unfriends anyone who talks about politics because it is boring - remember she is a liberal, a 75 year old liberal from Oklahoma which she found conservative back water. I asked her if she voted, yes she did, I asked her what she knew about Christie who I hate with the heat of a thousand suns, and that NJ is cursed with the embarrassment that he is. SO I ask her how she dicides who to vote for - TV -???? like there is any truth onTV. Does not like the internet much. Now she was very active in traveling and living life when she was younger. Just did not liketo talk about politics -

To me, her friend (we do opera together and like to eat the same kinds of food and enjoy the beach - different friends for different things.) politics is life itself, if we can't make the big decisions we have to know about the people we "hire" to do the work for us. And knowing about them takes work, Forget the hand outs, I may google them for a start, but then I start googling any news about them from the past few years, much like I read news from different countries assuming nothing is ever unbiased at least I get different view points. I just don't understand how people think they can believe TV, especially FOX news, and believe the fliers and ads.

I think this blind sided we are busy with other things attitude is what makes people bad voters who never think about how what they are doing is going to hurt them.

The Obama hate I see on my dog's facebook, she (cough cough) plays games and somehow got mixed in with a lot of southern military wives who's husbands seem deployed most of the time. There is one thing in common on all their facebook posts. They really hate Obama with a million suns and believe he is responsible for all the problems they are having now,. they also seem to be between jobs a lot of working for walmart. and for this they all blame Obama, like all their local newspapers and tv stations. I have discussed this with others and they say unfriend them all and find new "friends" but I think it is important to see where they get their thinking from. I got one into chat and discussed what I wanted for this country and she agreed she wanted the same things. I thought that was a start, we have our off and ons because I will reply on her obama hate posts and mostly she disagrees respectfully, but her friends are not always as kind. I think it is important people converse this way. She has no other liberal influence in her life, I certainly can't seethe conservative way. I know I have changed her mind on a few things and to question her sources sometimes because of the errors in them I have pointed out. I am not goingto make her a livberal but you never know what a little Idea can start.

Oh god Cruz is on my TV yelling about more investigation of benghazii I may not survive the next 2 years.

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