OK. Stop. This is a setback, not the end of all things democratic

[cali]

Perhaps I'm not as devastated as many here because I had no false expectations. Honestly, the writing was on the wall months and months ago re these midterms, but republican gains won't last and the many democrats who don't vote in midterms will be voting in a Presidential election year. In 2016, the Senate dems have no vulnerable seats and the republicans have several. I believe the dems will take back the Senate and make gains in the House.

Yes, this sucks. It's disheartening to think about what the next two years hold in store, but President Obama still has a veto pen. I hope he has the backbone to use it and doesn't let such things as the pernicious chained CPI come about. Still, they only have about 18 months to fuck us- and we still have a dem in the White House.

Republicans will pull a lot of crap that the dems can exploit in 2016. They'll overreach in a way that will almost guarantee a big democratic turnout. the turnout will look far different. It always does in presidential election years.

This is a setback for democrats, not the end.

[Kalidurga]

1. I know

but, I keep thinking that people are basically good.

[m-lekktor]

2. 1994 was much worse.

with Newtie and the Contract on America.

[cali]

4. totally true.

It's good to remember that. thanks for the reminder

[still_one]

3. absolutely, and 2016 will open more doors for us, especially if the rebukes behave as they have done

the last 6 years

[rwheeler31]

5. I hope your right.

We have so much to overcome.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

6. Yep. It sucks but it's temporary.

The pendulum will swing back. It's discouraging and infuriating that Democrats are less likely to vote in midterm elections than Republicans, but there it is - again. The GOPers in Congress will have to actually govern for the next two years. They now own the thing and they will have no excuses. They will overreach; they always do. We have to work hard and take full advantage of the stupid shit we know the GOPers will get up to. We are not doomed - not by a long shot.

No more rending of garments and gnashing of teeth. Tomorrow we get to work. It's not over.

[Politicalboi]

7. After all they've taken from us

People still haven't learned a thing. I doubt they'll see overreach in 2 years, they can't even see it now. 28 Billion for the GOP's shut down didn't do a damn thing. We are truly dealing with idiots. We need tests to run and hold office. At least we can try and bring the best and brightest back into play.

[KingCharlemagne]

8. Wise words. GOP overreach and hubris will occasion a blue tsunami in 2016. We might

even win back both Senate AND House. Paging Dr. Dean.

[Stardust]

9. K&R! Balm for my soul. nt

[Kablooie]

10. It's not just a setback. It's a brownback as well. nt

[LeftInTX]

16. Speaking of brown....it's a shitfuck

[sheshe2]

11. You had me...until this, cali.

I hope he has the backbone to use it and doesn't let such things as the pernicious chained CPI come about.

I was planning to rec your thread.

Night.

[cali]

14. extreme devotion to a pol is just unhealthy. It serves nothing well. at all. ever.

You place fealty and your love for the President over the well being of actual people. It's just sad.

[sheshe2]

17. extreme "derision" to a pol is just unhealthy. It serves nothing well. at all. ever.

You place fealty and your love for the President over the well being of actual people. It's just sad.

Cool cali...so I don't care about the well being of actual people? You seriously just said that? Think about what you just accused me of.

[cali]

18. I couldn't agree with you more. Nothing I said in my OP expressed extreme derision towards

the President.

and sorry, but placing your devotion to a politician above everything else, is indicative that you care more about the President NEVER being criticized than actual people.

[sheshe2]

19. cali

you said to me...not talking about the OP here...your words were what I was quoting.

You place fealty and your love for the President over the well being of actual people. It's just sad.

What I was pointing out...you are saying that I don't care about the well being of actual people. Your words. Own them.

[cali]

22. I did own them. Carrying love for a politician to the point where an innocuous

statement about hoping he has the backbone to use the veto pen offends you, is a honking big indicator that you care more about how the President is perceived and spoken about than you do actual people.

[sheshe2]

23. No...you did not own them

Hello! How many times will you deny what you actually said. How many times will you spin this?

You accused me of not caring about the well being of actual people.

You place fealty and your love for the President over the well being of actual people. It's just sad.

[Glitterati]

12. FAR worse than a setback for some of us

I'm staring losing my Obamacare in the face right now. After 30 years uninsured with a chronic disease.

I'm sorry, I can't find any hope with that staring at me.

[Hoyt]

13. Maybe it's time to let a few red states go ahead and secede.

[ZombieHorde]

15. Yes, unless

climate change scientists are correct and we need to act right away. Then this setback may be worse than we realize. Or maybe not. Who knows?

[BlindTiresias]

20. Will you concede your optimism is misplaced

if he does indeed not use the veto pen?

[Tatiana]

21. I agree, for the most part.

But I'm not convinced President Obama won't revert to his compromising ways. We don't have much assurance that he will use the veto pen. But we can certainly hope.

[jimlup]

24. Never underestimate the ability of the Republicans to shoot themselves in the foot

These people are ass clowns. They have no idea how to actually govern the country.

This is the hidden silver lining of these midterms.

[regnaD kciN]

25. In the near-term, this means very little...

The fact is, we were roadblocked by the House Repugs (not to mention Senate filibusters) anyway, and that was never going to change this time around. We had gridlock either way.

The only difference we'll see in the next two years will be more votes on repealing the ACA. This time, the President will have to veto them instead of letting the Senate kill them. But they don't have the votes to overturn the veto.

In short, nothing much will change, and wouldn't have even if we had managed to hold onto the Senate by a bare majority. And we should be able to make substantial gains two years from now.

[leftynyc]

26. The cons need the same 60 votes

the Democrats did in the senate to get a law to the floor. There will also be investigation after investigation after investigation (over complete bullshit but that hasn't stopped Boehner). I agree with the OP, this is a setback like 1994 was and 2010 was. The cons can't help but overreach, especially the infantile tea people who will now be calling for impeachment. The cons have 24 senate seats to defend in 2016 (many in blue states) and the Democrats only have 10 to defend (many safe seats). It's going to suck but I also don't believe it will last.