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OK, will someone please tell me, since I wasn't here tonight...how many Senate seats did we lose? (Original Post) CaliforniaPeggy Nov 2014 OP
7 I think ... >:( nt ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2014 #1
Thanks. n/t CaliforniaPeggy Nov 2014 #3
54-46 Republican senate Glitterati Nov 2014 #2
Ouch...that really sucks. CaliforniaPeggy Nov 2014 #4
The bright spot is that we're rid of Mark Pryor and the likes of him Glitterati Nov 2014 #5
BS! elleng Nov 2014 #7
Well, hey, I do believe Arkansas voters agree with me. Glitterati Nov 2014 #10
They agree with you if you admire people like Tom Cotton and Tom Thillis. nt geek tragedy Nov 2014 #20
Too true! BlueMTexpat Nov 2014 #12
I've been supporting DFA instead of Dem party too, elleng Nov 2014 #13
Absolutely spot on! BlueMTexpat Nov 2014 #16
Agreed. People fed up with the DNC or hoping for a 50-state strategy really need to be DFA members Chathamization Nov 2014 #27
... and you obviously think replacing them with a Republican is a good thing? wyldwolf Nov 2014 #17
Well, hey, all I can say is your magic pixie dust did Michelle Nunn no favors last night Glitterati Nov 2014 #28
You misunderstand wyldwolf Nov 2014 #29
ROFL, such bullshit Glitterati Nov 2014 #31
John Lewis doesn't run state wide now does he? wyldwolf Nov 2014 #32
You're been peddling this BS for years and years and it has never worked ONCE Glitterati Nov 2014 #33
Name me ONE 'progressive' who has run and WON statewide in Georgia wyldwolf Nov 2014 #34
Oh, you mean the ones who ran on DEM party money then switched parties days after the election? Glitterati Nov 2014 #35
"progressives" have done that? No, I said STATE WIDE, not safe urban districts wyldwolf Nov 2014 #36
Max Cleland Glitterati Nov 2014 #37
Max Cleland was DLC (try again, LOL) wyldwolf Nov 2014 #38
Right </sarcasm> Glitterati Nov 2014 #39
oh boy, another "progressive" psychic who has insight into a politicians mind! LOL! LOL! wyldwolf Nov 2014 #40
I KNOW Max Cleland, personally Glitterati Nov 2014 #41
um, sure you do. LOL. So... that list of successful 'progressives' in red states? wyldwolf Nov 2014 #42
OK, bye bye Glitterati Nov 2014 #43
you said that the LAST time. Hey, about that list you refuse to acknowledge... wyldwolf Nov 2014 #47
Yeah. That attitude infuriates me Recursion Nov 2014 #50
9 I believe geek tragedy Nov 2014 #6
Thanks. n/t CaliforniaPeggy Nov 2014 #9
Alaska isn't lost yet. Blue_In_AK Nov 2014 #15
Keeping my fingers VERY crossed BlueMTexpat Nov 2014 #49
"LA in December"? Cha Nov 2014 #18
run-off. nt geek tragedy Nov 2014 #19
Call me crazy.. not giving up hope for Landrieu! Cha Nov 2014 #22
I'm fresh out of hope until 2016. geek tragedy Nov 2014 #23
Oh dear.. This might not phase you but... fwiw.. it's kinda funny Cha Nov 2014 #26
Dear Peggy, seems as though the Repuglicans are winninng! akbacchus_BC Nov 2014 #8
Yes, they are winning...for now. CaliforniaPeggy Nov 2014 #11
You really believe that? Katashi_itto Nov 2014 #21
Don't worry. Obama's gonna start using his 11-Dimensional chess and rope-a-dope tricks. He's got the blkmusclmachine Nov 2014 #14
But he's so smaaaaaart..... maced666 Nov 2014 #25
Up to nine. maced666 Nov 2014 #24
Last unofficial count I got was 52 Republicans and 48 Democrats. Cleita Nov 2014 #30
Three brazillion KamaAina Nov 2014 #44
It sure feels like it, doesn't it? CaliforniaPeggy Nov 2014 #45
7 so far Robbins Nov 2014 #46
Everything! Game over! Cats and Dogs Living Together! Doomsday! The End. kydo Nov 2014 #48
 

Glitterati

(3,182 posts)
5. The bright spot is that we're rid of Mark Pryor and the likes of him
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 03:42 AM
Nov 2014

people pretending to be Democrats and not supporting a single Democratic principle.

Mary Landrieu and Kay Hagan, too.

You know you're headed for defeat when supposed Democratic candidates refuse to admit they voted for the President for their own party. Allison Grimes DESERVED to lose for that alone.

elleng

(130,908 posts)
7. BS!
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 03:46 AM
Nov 2014

CONTROL of houses of congress is VERY valuable, whether we like all of the members or not. This is a damaging attitude of too many Democrats.

 

Glitterati

(3,182 posts)
10. Well, hey, I do believe Arkansas voters agree with me.
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 03:48 AM
Nov 2014

Seeing as how they sent Priyor's ass home from DC tonight, along with Hagen and Landrieu.

BlueMTexpat

(15,369 posts)
12. Too true!
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 04:03 AM
Nov 2014

But if there is any silver lining at all, it is that the ideas of spineless Dems may become a thing of the past. Even though - especially in this election - voting for any Dem over any GOPer should have been a no-brainer.

I, for one, am supporting Howard Dean's Democracy for America rather than the DNC, the DSCC or the DCCC from now on as well as individual candidates. http://www.democracyforamerica.com/ Even though the national organizations worked very hard for some Dem candidates in so-called "critical" states (and I thank them for it), they did not work hard enough in areas where good Dems - with even a little bit of national support and encouragement - could have won. They much too often follow the so-called "conventional wisdom."

If Howard Dean once again accepts the position of DNC Chair and the national organizations actually listen to him, then I might reconsider. Even if a former Dean Dozen candidate who would follow the Dean vision moved into that position ... but only then.

elleng

(130,908 posts)
13. I've been supporting DFA instead of Dem party too,
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 04:06 AM
Nov 2014

and we sure as hell need his thoughtful leadership.

Chathamization

(1,638 posts)
27. Agreed. People fed up with the DNC or hoping for a 50-state strategy really need to be DFA members
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 09:11 AM
Nov 2014

There's no reason to wait for the DNC - there's an organization trying to implement the strategy right now, and you can support them (and the progressive candidates they back) directly.

And if you're really interested in having progressives take back the party, you need to be a member. Another great thing the DFA does is come to support of progressives and liberals in Democrat vs. Democrat races (got an e-mail from them raising support for Mike Honda against Ro Khanna, for example).

wyldwolf

(43,867 posts)
17. ... and you obviously think replacing them with a Republican is a good thing?
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 06:06 AM
Nov 2014

Here's Pryor's voting record with the President.



(Source: CQ Roll Call and Politifact)

While Republican senators attempted to block Obama at every turn, you're going to persist in your fantasy that losing Pryor and others is a good thing and that states like Arkansas is just waiting for a candidate to spread more magic progressive pixie dust.

I'm sure it's very blissful where you are.

 

Glitterati

(3,182 posts)
28. Well, hey, all I can say is your magic pixie dust did Michelle Nunn no favors last night
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 12:54 PM
Nov 2014

Perdue kicked her butt from North Fulton all over the state.

That magic third way, Zell Miller style Democrat has cost us the senate way too many times. And the Presidency, and Congress, and all the rest.

One day, we'll all learn that a "conservative Democrat" is nothing more than a wolf in sheep's clothing. The voters sure figured that out this last election. One day you third wayers will, too. Unless, of course, that's your actual goal - electing more republicans. Cause you sure achieved it last night.

I'll never forgive Mark Pryor for tossing those 20 dead babies out like trash so the NRA wouldn't campaign against him. Sure did him a lot of good, now, didn't it?


wyldwolf

(43,867 posts)
29. You misunderstand
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 12:58 PM
Nov 2014

In red states, we don't run further left candidates. But I'm sure you believe Bernie sanders - types would have won big in Georgia through magical pixie dust.

 

Glitterati

(3,182 posts)
31. ROFL, such bullshit
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 01:05 PM
Nov 2014

Honey, I'm in Georgia as well, and I KNOW BETTER.

Ever heard of John Lewis?

Yeah, I thought so.

Insanity is defined as doing the same thing over and expecting a different result.

 

Glitterati

(3,182 posts)
33. You're been peddling this BS for years and years and it has never worked ONCE
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 01:13 PM
Nov 2014

Instead, you Third Way Dems gave Georgia away to the republicans.

Georgia was a state Democratically controlled for 125 years, until the Third Way Dems decided electing Republicans in Democratic clothing was the way to go.

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.

wyldwolf

(43,867 posts)
34. Name me ONE 'progressive' who has run and WON statewide in Georgia
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 01:35 PM
Nov 2014

You can't, because one doesn't exist.

If there is really some secret 'progressive' majority in red states, why don't potential "progressive" candidates know about them? Might give them the guts to run.

You're been peddling this BS for years and years and it has never worked ONCE

Tell you what - I'll provide a list of Third Way Dems who've run and WON in red state elections STATE WIDE, not some safe urban district. You do the same with 'progressive' candidates.

Bet you can't.

You're been peddling this BS for years



 

Glitterati

(3,182 posts)
35. Oh, you mean the ones who ran on DEM party money then switched parties days after the election?
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 02:15 PM
Nov 2014

THOSE third way Dems?

Yeah, love those. </sarcasm>

wyldwolf

(43,867 posts)
36. "progressives" have done that? No, I said STATE WIDE, not safe urban districts
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 02:19 PM
Nov 2014

Now, I have my list of third way Dems who have run in red states and won. Where is your list of 'progressives' who have run state wide races in red states and won?

Hint: You don't have one.

 

Glitterati

(3,182 posts)
37. Max Cleland
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 02:20 PM
Nov 2014

there's ONE. Come on, let's figure out how many more your Third Way Dems have destroyed.

 

Glitterati

(3,182 posts)
39. Right </sarcasm>
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 02:26 PM
Nov 2014

Yeah, he played along with your idiots just too keep his own party from trying to destroy him, but he was and is as progressive as the day is long.

He played along. Until the Third Way abandoned him for Saxby Chambliss.

You guys have an absolutely stunning record in Georgia. You've lost more elections than any other state.

Go Zig Zag Zell! I'm certain his endorsement of Michell Nunn was helpful after his endorsement of George Bush. </sarcasm>

Zell Miller is the epitome of Third Way Democrats.

wyldwolf

(43,867 posts)
40. oh boy, another "progressive" psychic who has insight into a politicians mind! LOL! LOL!
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 02:31 PM
Nov 2014

Hey, where's you list of State-wide 'progressive' red state winners?

 

Glitterati

(3,182 posts)
41. I KNOW Max Cleland, personally
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 02:38 PM
Nov 2014

so, I might suggest you not try to speak for him.

I'm done with you, just because like all Third Way Democrats, you're a waste of time and effort.

But, you just keep doing what you've been doing and eventually, there won't be a single Democratic office holder in DC. I'm certain John Barrow will agree. Another loser, thanks to the Third Way Dems.

You're just soooooooo effective in electing candidates - for the Republicans, that is. </sarcasm>

wyldwolf

(43,867 posts)
47. you said that the LAST time. Hey, about that list you refuse to acknowledge...
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 02:47 PM
Nov 2014
I'm way past done wasting time

Then why do you keep replying?

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
15. Alaska isn't lost yet.
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 04:10 AM
Nov 2014

We probably won't know for a couple of weeks. There was a lot of absentee voting here and I don't believe the rural precincts are in yet where Mark has his strength. In 2008 he was down at this stage of the game, as well. We come to expect very close elections whenever Begich is involved. It's always been that way even when he was on the Anchorage assembly.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
23. I'm fresh out of hope until 2016.
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 08:45 AM
Nov 2014

There is literally nothing good that will happen politically for the next 24 months. Nothing.

Cha

(297,240 posts)
26. Oh dear.. This might not phase you but... fwiw.. it's kinda funny
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 08:59 AM
Nov 2014
A Retired Navy Officer’s Message to Liberals on the Eve of the GOP’s Big Mid-Term Win

markpkessinger http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5765133

We'll see of course..
 

blkmusclmachine

(16,149 posts)
14. Don't worry. Obama's gonna start using his 11-Dimensional chess and rope-a-dope tricks. He's got the
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 04:09 AM
Nov 2014

GOP right where he wants them...

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
30. Last unofficial count I got was 52 Republicans and 48 Democrats.
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 01:00 PM
Nov 2014

Mitch McConnell will be Senate Majority Leader.

Robbins

(5,066 posts)
46. 7 so far
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 02:46 PM
Nov 2014

Alaska may be called for GOP.GOP could win the LA runoff In december.That would bring it to 9

We have to worry about manchen remaining a Dem and If King will remain caucusing with Dems.

so it could be 11 In the end.

kydo

(2,679 posts)
48. Everything! Game over! Cats and Dogs Living Together! Doomsday! The End.
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 02:52 PM
Nov 2014

Not! Ok it was not pretty. It could have been worse. But in the end it really only means two years of hell before the rays of hope re-emerge. Wild animals do lash out before being caged. Think Nazis and their last stab at stalling the inevitable with the battle of the bulge. While they created a bulge in the allies line for a few weeks, it really only exhausted whatever resources they had left. The Nazis lost everything in the end if I remember correctly.

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