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upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 09:42 AM Nov 2014

We here on DU do not represent Americans.

That should be obvious this morning.
Seems to me we live on an island here.
For all our telling ourselves how much more intelligent we are compared to the rest of America, it didn't help anything yesterday.
Reality sinks in now.
We can't make it go away.
For me I will turn to some of the good things that still exist. A walk along the beach. A long motorcycle ride. Some good music.
And I will remain possitive thinking there is a better time coming.

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We here on DU do not represent Americans. (Original Post) upaloopa Nov 2014 OP
We certainly do not represent the US voter titaniumsalute Nov 2014 #1
i agree. n/t. okieinpain Nov 2014 #15
2016 is a comforting thought. OrwellwasRight Nov 2014 #17
We are the lunatic fringe , we are the left's freerepublic. bowens43 Nov 2014 #2
That's kind of harsh YarnAddict Nov 2014 #5
Well, I suppose we are a bunch of... Whiskeytide Nov 2014 #6
DUers don't trust science when they don't like the results. Donald Ian Rankin Nov 2014 #13
The party system is screwing over the country. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2014 #3
And gerrymandering is locking in the results Cresent City Kid Nov 2014 #11
yes, yes, yes.. that shit has to be fixed. these crazy ass districts that are being drawn up okieinpain Nov 2014 #16
Independent is not the same as centrist. Nt. OrwellwasRight Nov 2014 #18
Exactly. nt Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2014 #21
We really should have listened to President Washington: riqster Nov 2014 #26
California stayed true blue. antiquie Nov 2014 #4
Yep I like our blue state with all our quirks. upaloopa Nov 2014 #8
And Oregon as well CanonRay Nov 2014 #12
So did New York leftynyc Nov 2014 #20
Only in the sense that we vote and too many dont or cant libtodeath Nov 2014 #7
Most Americans agree with us on every major issue MannyGoldstein Nov 2014 #9
Well they sure as hell don't vote like we do. upaloopa Nov 2014 #10
That, of course, depends on what issues are considered to be "major" Algernon Moncrieff Nov 2014 #24
Better times not likely fadedrose Nov 2014 #14
Well enjoy the beach. The oil rigs are coming and they will probably fuck up that too. n/t Cleita Nov 2014 #19
Obama won in 08 with a populist message. nc4bo Nov 2014 #22
Agreed. Ishoutandscream2 Nov 2014 #23
Totally agree Ampersand Unicode Nov 2014 #25
I know that, but I didn't think the rest of the country was so fucking out of whack. CrispyQ Nov 2014 #27
I would say the new government doesn't mmonk Nov 2014 #28
Understatement of the Year Award BKH70041 Nov 2014 #29
i do not agree. i think we do. i think we sat at home for different reasons. i think we do seabeyond Nov 2014 #30

titaniumsalute

(4,742 posts)
1. We certainly do not represent the US voter
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 09:46 AM
Nov 2014

Frankly I'd be surprised if you thought we did. We are a group of people who believe, most in agreement anyway, in a certain platform. But we are a microcosm.

You also have to remember history. Historically the midterms are NOT good to the sitting President. Second, the states that were up for the Senate were pretty stacked RED. Now I agree that some GOV seats were big surprises like Maryland. WTF?

The pendulum will be swinging back in 2016 as the minority and youth vote will be much larger.

OrwellwasRight

(5,170 posts)
17. 2016 is a comforting thought.
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 11:14 AM
Nov 2014

Not.

So we can elect another centrist Dem president who won't challenge or fix the status quo and maybe get the Senate back so that we can protect abortion rights but do little else constructive for our economy or the working class. Exciting.

Whiskeytide

(4,461 posts)
6. Well, I suppose we are a bunch of...
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 09:59 AM
Nov 2014

... separately descended, science trusting, equality minded intellectuals. Based on the results last night, I'd say that makes us the outlying fringe.

Donald Ian Rankin

(13,598 posts)
13. DUers don't trust science when they don't like the results.
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 11:08 AM
Nov 2014

It so happens that the evidence lines up with liberal positions more often than conservative ones, so DUers come out looking pro-science.

But when it doesn't - on GM crops, for example, or the likely outcome of the elections just gone, to pick two obvious examples - it doesn't really have much impact on many DUers.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
3. The party system is screwing over the country.
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 09:47 AM
Nov 2014

Primaries give us candidates who only appeal to a narrow slice of the electorate, rather than candidates who also appeal to the "independents" who vote in generals.

Cresent City Kid

(1,621 posts)
11. And gerrymandering is locking in the results
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 10:55 AM
Nov 2014

Every two years is a chance to replace the entire House of Representatives but it doesn't feel that way. Every 20 years, the midterm elections come in the year they do the census as in 2010. Expect gridlock or Republican rule for the rest of the decade.

okieinpain

(9,397 posts)
16. yes, yes, yes.. that shit has to be fixed. these crazy ass districts that are being drawn up
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 11:13 AM
Nov 2014

need to be done away with. this link is from 2010; [link:http://pjmedia.com/zombie/2010/11/11/the-top-ten-most-gerrymandered-congressional-districts-in-the-united-states/| I'm pretty sure they are even more crazier now.

riqster

(13,986 posts)
26. We really should have listened to President Washington:
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 11:38 AM
Nov 2014

"However [political parties] may now and then answer popular ends, they are likely in the course of time and things, to become potent engines, by which cunning, ambitious, and unprincipled men will be enabled to subvert the power of the people and to usurp for themselves the reins of government, destroying afterwards the very engines which have lifted them to unjust dominion."

 

antiquie

(4,299 posts)
4. California stayed true blue.
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 09:52 AM
Nov 2014

We even defeated the money-is-no-object charter school candidate for Superintendent of Schools.
I love my state.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
8. Yep I like our blue state with all our quirks.
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 10:06 AM
Nov 2014

They say good things start here and move east. Let's hope we catch on with the rest of the country.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
20. So did New York
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 11:16 AM
Nov 2014

It's like we live in some sane bubble. I know that imbecile in Staten Island still won with an indictment hanging over his head but now you know why the sane don't go to Staten Island.

libtodeath

(2,888 posts)
7. Only in the sense that we vote and too many dont or cant
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 10:01 AM
Nov 2014

when they do go to the polls then we win in a landslide.
More people want liberal ideas,we just have to have candidates they want to vote for and will speak out against the rw hate machine and lies.

 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
9. Most Americans agree with us on every major issue
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 10:15 AM
Nov 2014

We do more research, and there are some scary-smart people her, but we generally hold the same opinions as other Americans on what needs to get done. We differ on how those things get done - but the evidence is on our side. We need to do some teaching.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
10. Well they sure as hell don't vote like we do.
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 10:43 AM
Nov 2014

I don't understand last night if what you say is correct.

Algernon Moncrieff

(5,790 posts)
24. That, of course, depends on what issues are considered to be "major"
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 11:29 AM
Nov 2014

I met plenty of people who consider the most major issues in America to be deficit spending, America's lack of moral compass, and the threat to their constitutional right to bear arms. Mind that I live in a pretty deeply red state (although they are still counting ballots that we might flip our congressional district blue).

The President was correct 6 years ago -- people are clinging to guns and religion.

I'm in a Facebook group with people who attended my high school in Maryland. We are all now late 40-somethings or early 50-somethings. My school was predominantly white, but had a fair representation of other groups. I can tell you that my one-time classmates who are still in Maryland voted overwhelmingly for Hogan. I think race was a factor, but taxes and Maryland's restrictive gun laws are the reasons they cite. My hope for Maryland is that Hogan, like Erlich before him, will be a one-termer.

fadedrose

(10,044 posts)
14. Better times not likely
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 11:08 AM
Nov 2014

Look at MSM. News programs on Sunday morning, when most people are asleep or in church, out to lunch, by the time they get home, news is over.

At night, on the network channels, news ends at 7 pm. Everything worth knowing is on all morning and afternoon, Come supper time when folks are home from work, quiz games, comedies, anything but news.

Everyone doesn't have the upper tiers in cable - MSNBC, CNN, even Fox, and they don't have the slightest idea what's going on till they hear about it at work from someone else. CNN now has entertainment shows about call girls, prostitutes, world travelers and eating, eating, eating, forensics, criminal hunts and jail programs, etc., nothing useful in deciding who to vote for....And they show "balanced" news where lies are told and never corrected by the host..

I am very pessimistic about the future because with all the ways one can find out what is happening, people are relying on Twitter and Facebook instead of news that is not controlled by trolls, the Koch brothers, political party players, etc....

Ampersand Unicode

(503 posts)
25. Totally agree
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 11:32 AM
Nov 2014

The idiots are running the asylum. We're actually the sane fringe. The lunatics are the majority.

Right now I'm sitting in poli-sci class listening to the prof mourning last night's disaster. I'm on my laptop trying to drown out the painful reality and Googling suicide methods.

Just wait until Net Neutrality dies completely and Big Corporate Media kills D.U. in favor of a "fast lane" for Faux News and The Blaze. I lost my family at HuffPost (to Facebook comments) and will lose my family here too.

The Republicans have taken everything away from me and will probably take everything else away too.

BKH70041

(961 posts)
29. Understatement of the Year Award
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 12:04 PM
Nov 2014

I'll take "Lessons That Will Never Be Learned Even After This" for $100 million+, Alex.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
30. i do not agree. i think we do. i think we sat at home for different reasons. i think we do
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 12:07 PM
Nov 2014

reflect america, more so.

the majority are over 50. the young, the women did not show. they talk the same we talk, and yes, much of what democratic party talks. not all things, so our young, our women do not show.

well fuck it. you do not get all things. i want more to. ask me. i will tell them what to do. BUT... the democratic party certainly address a lot on my list. as with i think, the majority of america

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