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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHow Hillary Clinton won the 2014 midterms
http://news.yahoo.com/how-hillary-clinton-won-the-2014-midterms-075943434.html"
Lets start with the map. Sure, the GOP won a remarkable number of races last night. But take another look. How many purple states did Republicans actually pick up? There was Cory Gardners victory in Colorado more on that later. There was Joni Ernsts victory in Iowa. And there was Thom Tilliss victory in North Carolina. The rest of the GOPs Senate flips (Montana, South Dakota, Arkansas, West Virginia) and gubernatorial flips (Arkansas, Maryland, Illinois, Massachusetts) were in states that wont really be contested in 2016. The Democrats flipped the governorship of Pennsylvania as well.
The GOPs relative underperformance in swing states is a problem going forward because the 2016 landscape is a lot less favorable for Republicans than the 2014 landscape was. Sixteen of this years 20 contested Senate seats were held by Democrats heading into the election and six of those Democrats were from states that Obama lost in 2012. This gave Republicans a huge advantage. The map was already red.
But that map will be upended in 2016, when 23 of the 33 seats at stake will be held by Republicans. Six of them will be in states that Obama won in 2008 and 2012 (Illinois, New Hampshire, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Florida and Wisconsin). Two will be in states Obama won in 2008 (Indiana, North Carolina). Two are held by senators who may be retiring (John McCain in Arizona, Chuck Grassley in Iowa). And two are held by senators who may be running for president, which means they cant run for re-election (Marco Rubio in Florida, Rand Paul in Kentucky)."
Can Rubio and Paul run in the Repuke primaries and then run for Senate elections if one (or both) isn't the nominee?
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)Specifically, Grimes, Hagan, and (to a lesser extent) Davis. Granted, each of these women faced very tough odds in Red states during what was obviously a pro-GOP sentiment election. But the idea - and it's an idea that has attached itself to Clinton's campaign scenarios - that women will come out and vote for women seems to be less than solid. Even Sheehan faced a tight race in New Hampshire. So, yes, I agree with the OP by and large. This was going to be a tough sale election for Dems either way. But there's a bit of a downside for Clinton when she and her people analyze the election from a gender angle.
Seeking Serenity
(2,840 posts)any candidate in Bill's home state or ALG in KY. Hmmm.
pipoman
(16,038 posts)Bullshit is why Dems lose and why the reds are likely to win next '16.
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)damn good candidate, who has strong messaging and really believes in Dem principles. Basically, it would have to be another Sherrod Brown to oust Portman.
GeorgeGist
(25,321 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)This does not tarnish them at all.
earthside
(6,960 posts)The message this debacle sends to me, however, is that center-right, risk averse, "let's be friends with big business/Republicans" and micro-targeting/pandering to narrow voter groups is a path to defeat.
Which means "the Clintons" are most decidedly not the answer to the Democrats presidential ambitions in 2016.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)My point was the loss can not be pinned on them.