Is 44 as smart as 42?

[BKH70041]

What's all this talk of using the veto pen and executive orders I'm reading here.That's not the way real Democratic president's behave. That's the way immature children think.

After the midterms in 1994, President Clinton received a wake-up call. But he didn't pick up a veto pen, he got with the new leadership and started negotiating. From that point on, he got quite a bit accomplished and not long afterwards the economy started humming right along (impeachment notwithstanding).

Last night, President Obama received his wake-up call. Question will be is he smart enough to answer it correctly, like Clinton did.

Obama doesn't need to pick up the veto pen, he needs to pick up the telephone. If he's smart, he will. He has a meeting Monday at the WH (from the news reports I heard) with what will be the new leadership in Congress, and that would be a great time to start. Let's see if he has the same political savy as Clinton. We'll know in just a few months. But if he starts pulling this "veto pen" and "excutive order" nonsense instead of negotiating and compromising, then he'll be announcing to the world he never was really ready for primetime.

But suggesting this "use the veto pen talk" and "executive order" nonsense are for those who have no business even thinking about politics, much less expressing their immature opinions on it.

[FSogol]

1. Unrec. Should he phone Ted Cruz? Do you think Cruz is ready to work together?

[Tom Ripley]

7. +1

[upaloopa]

2. This is not 1994. This is not your father's GOP

To compare today with back then is stupid to say the least.

[lonestarnot]

3. Well why not, no bankers are in jail yet. Why not just throw in the towel to big money all the way

and just become slaves to pipe-liners, property thieves, can we start building a pyramid somewhere? Where's the fucking rock pile, let me at it!

[BeyondGeography]

4. Maybe after they vote to impeach

[librechik]

5. yeah. While the opposition enjoyed impeaching him and dragging

our reputation as a country through the mud for Newt's pleasure. That was some swell cooperation! All Ciinton had to do was sign away our economy by repealing Glass- Steagoll, sign away the institution of our independent journalism with the media consolidation act of 96 and brag about the millions of new jobs that were created==all of em part time and poorly paid, beginning a terrible trend for labor that continues to this day.

I expect them to drag Obama through the same vicious cage battle, including the bogus impeachment.

There was a coup back in the 60s and we lost.

[Frustratedlady]

6. How would you react if you'd received the treatment they have given him for the last 6 years?

Obama has taken the high road since he was given the cold shoulder by the Republicans...even after he made special attempts to "get together" and negotiate various issues. Good Lord, how much do you expect one man to take?

Clinton was white. Obama is half white, but the Republicans only treat him like he was Black. You think the next two years are going to be any different? Short of another Civil War, the Republicans will never be happy with a Black in the White House. For shame.

Obama does not deserve the treatment he has received from the Republicans, nor the slights he received from the Democrats during the midterm election.

I'm thoroughly disgusted with the whole infantile bunch.

[JustAnotherGen]

8. No - he shouldn't

He learned the same thing I learned on the playground - having grown up in the same race/family dynamic. . .

When they push you down and kick dirt in your face - wait for the right opportunity to trip them when they walk by your desk.

[HERVEPA]

9. What utter bullshit you have just spewed.

[alarimer]

10. Different times.

Gingrich was reasonable, compared to some of these people.

Negotiation is what I am afraid. Clinton sold us out with NAFTA and welfare "reform."

I shudder to think what Obama is going to give away.

[BKH70041]

11. kick

There's a whole bunch of you here that better wake up to reality. And President Obama better pick up the phone and start doing some horse trading if he has any sense of political survival.

[cali]

15. and you should trot your little right wing "thoughts" off to a right wing board.

[BKH70041]

16. I've read your political viewpoints.

They're not viable. Being a liberal doesn't mean being off the wall. Your political viewpoint don't deserve political representation at ANY legislative level.

At some point you need to decide if you're going to be whatever it is you think you are or whether you want to be a real member of the Democratic Party. I put my money where my mouth is to the tune of over $100K/yr. They love me. And you're what??

[cali]

17. do be specific. what of my viewpoints aren't viable?

and guess what, sweetie? My viewpoints are represented: My Senators are Pat Leahy and Bernie. My rep is Peter Welch. My governor (by a hair) is Peter Shumlin and the Vermont legislature and elected officials in my state represent my viewpoints.

You are a right winger. go to a more suitable venue and spew that shit there.

[dawg]

12. Clinton *did* manage to accomplish a lot with a Republican Congress.

NAFTA, repeal of Glass-Steagall , and the ending of welfare as we knew it.

Yay!

[cali]

13. thanks for outing yourself.

it's people like you who have no business even "thinking" about politics- and there's not a cogent thought in your op, honey.

The presidential veto is a perfectly legitimate exercise of power. I realize that you're salivating for a republican right wing agenda, but you are in the wrong place.

[KingCharlemagne]

14. You totally elide the impeachment debacle. That's some bi-partisanship you

got there.