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MineralMan

(146,308 posts)
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 12:48 PM Nov 2014

I think impeachment is off the table, but not repealing ACA.

I expect the introduction of a bill repealing the ACA to occur shortly after the next session of Congress. I expect it to pass in the House and stall in the Senate, get modified and then pass in some form. President Obama will veto it, as Congress will expect and that will be the end of the repeal, since there's no 2/3 majority to override.

Then, Republicans will use their effort to repeal as campaign fodder in 2016. My prediction is that the strategy will backfire on them in a really serious way.

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Algernon Moncrieff

(5,790 posts)
1. I think the ACA will be modified, and the GOP will call it "repeal"
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 12:59 PM
Nov 2014

...or an "alternative plan"

We already know the medical device tax will go. I suspect that the Republicans will propose to end the employer mandate; allow carriers to sell across state lines; eliminate or modify the 85% spending on care mandate; and eliminate the federally backed online exchanges in favor of plans that meet a certain set of requirments and can then be sold through agencies. I also suspect that they will allow more high deductible and high copay plans and encourage wider use of flex plans and medical savings accounts.

At the end of the day, repember that the origins of Obamacare are, in fact, Romneycare.

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
4. oh you give them too much credit
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 01:05 PM
Nov 2014

Impeachment IS what they want..they want an asterisk by the first Black Presidents name...they must make him illegitimate.

MineralMan

(146,308 posts)
6. I don't think so. They know they can't convict, so why bother?
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 01:13 PM
Nov 2014

I mean, I think it would backfire on them spectacularly, but I don't think even the Republicans are stupid enough to do it.

BlueCheese

(2,522 posts)
5. Listened to a few interviews last night...
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 01:08 PM
Nov 2014

Sounds like the Republicans have accepted the ACA isn't going away. They'll chip away at the margins, but the main part of it is a fact of life now.

Brother Buzz

(36,434 posts)
7. Repealing ACA is a wedge issue they need for the 2016 election cycle
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 01:19 PM
Nov 2014

It's going to be poked at ten ways to Tuesday, but it ain't going away.

MineralMan

(146,308 posts)
8. I agree. It's not going away, but they'll try.
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 01:25 PM
Nov 2014

President Obama's veto pen is poised already for that one.

MANative

(4,112 posts)
9. Of course, impeachment is off the table.
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 02:09 PM
Nov 2014

First, it's only fringe-nuts who are talking about it, and second, there has to be an actual crime with which the executive can be charged. Being a black man is not illegal, as much as the RWNJs would like it to be. There's not a single thing President Obama has done (or failed to do) that could possibly qualify. The biggest idiots, though, fail to understand that impeachment and "recall" are not the same thing, nor is recall available for the Office of the President. Heck, they probably couldn't name all three branches of government, never mind understand the intricacies of what conditions must be present to impeach, convict and remove a President from office. We've all seen how far the Boehner suit against the President has gone - two law firms having run for the hills already. As ridiculous as the whole Clinton impeachment was, there was at least a possible underlying crime (perjury) that was the "trigger" for the mess. And we saw how well that worked out for the Republicans. There'll be some noise, because these morons don't know how to kept their traps shut, but there's not a single blessed thing they can actually do about it.

onenote

(42,703 posts)
11. They will go after bits and pieces of the ACA
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 02:14 PM
Nov 2014

as part of larger bills that the President would be hard pressed to veto.

For example, they'll find a way to use the budget bill to defund the so-called (by Sarah Palin) "death panels", daring the President to veto the entire budget over that item. Then they can use that "victory" as a talking point going forward into 2016. Probably a few other items they'll squeeze into budget bills, again daring the President to veto the entire bill.

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