What Bernie Sanders said about the elections...

[Playinghardball]

Bernie Sanders @SenSanders · 1h 1 hour ago

They did not vote for tax breaks for billionaires, but that's what the Republicans will give them.

[kentuck]

1. Yep.

But we have a strong Party that will not let anything like that happen. Right?

[Autumn]

12. Are you listening to his press conference?

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

21. Bernie did not throw this president under the bus. He directly pointed the finger

at the Republicans!

[Autumn]

23. That would be correct, and....?

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

27. And what? He's fucking correct, unlike those of you who continue to blame

Obama for everything because he's not purely liberal enough for your liking.

Now here we have an avowed socialist who will NOT throw this president under the bus, unlike Democrats do!

A stand up guy, that's fucking what!

Recognize!

[Autumn]

29. Do try to make sense, and not just with your jumbled thoughts, try words you see

on the computer screen and respond accordingly. Or get a fucking grip. I do hope I remember to never agree with you again. It's just too much fucking work.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

31. Can respond, can you? Let me put it to you plainly...

Bernie Sanders, unlike you and other Democrats, did not abandon the president's agenda or message.

He was a not a coward; instead, he was brave and forthright. You do know what "forthright" means, don't you?

Take your anger out someone else where it belongs.

Better yet, why not channel that anger and direct it towards the people responsible: cowardly Democrats and the Republican Party. Blame those who deserve the blame, not those who don't.

That should be clear enough for you.

If not, I can't help you.

[Autumn]

39. The only anger I see is coming from you.

Dude, get a fucking grip you are coming off like a 12 year old. Go watch Obama's news confrence, do something productive with your life. If you think asking a person if they are watching Obama news confrence is anger you probaly just have a fucking problem. Oh by the way, Bernie's not a Democrat and I am whatever he is what I am, because to be "forthright" people like you give Democrats a bad name and I sure don't think I want to be in a party that has people like you in it.

Obamas news confrence answered the posters question. But I bet you never saw a fucking minute of it.

[Voice for Peace]

42. I'm going to just jump in here

[Autumn]

44. Cute kittens.

Thanks. Man there are assholes here today I'm going to wear out my ignore button.

[VanillaRhapsody]

52. yeah there sure are...

Hands you a mirror....

[Autumn]

56. Oh my

takes the mirror and throws it back

You and your little "friend" need to learn to read because it's obvious neither of you are here to discuss issues.

[VanillaRhapsody]

83. We are here to speak to other Democrats....Not Independents...

Independent Underground is thataway ---->

[Autumn]

84. Darn that Independent Bernie.

Thanks for pointing out that it's that a way----> I love Bernie I will stand with him any day,or sit by him under the bus. I can't wait to vote for him for President in 2016.

[VanillaRhapsody]

85. Yeah darn him.....I have pointed it out repeatedly...so I have no idea what the fuck YOU are laughin

at!

I support Democrats...

[Autumn]

87. Oh dear are you upset too?

I like Democrats too, well some of them. I don't like democrats in name only, you notice I didn't use a capitol D there? I don't use a capitol D on democrats who are not real Democrats. They are called DINOS. There are many of them. I don't like them. You know who else I don't like? I don't like republicans, real ones or fake ones, I do not like them. I do like independents. Bernie is an independent. Liz warren is a Democrat, I like her even though she was a republican at one time. It would be nice if she and Bernie share a ticket in 2016, President and Vice President, it doesn't matter which order . I would vote for them in a heart beat. I think that would be the best ticket ever. A lot of Democrats here like Bernie, even if he is an Independent. Bernie would never be a DINO if he were a Democrat.


Bernie/Liz 2016 !!!!!!

[VanillaRhapsody]

88. sorry Bernie is not a Dem and cannot run in our Primary....

Unless you WANT him to sell out and become a lowly Democrat?

Liz would never run against the party either...you are delusional!

[Autumn]

89. You know nilla, words hurt. I'm trying to reach out in friendship and bipartisanship and

you wanna be mean ? That really hurts. Wait a fucking minute.. are you saying if Liz ran for President she would be running AGAINST the party?????? I thought she was a Democrat. Did she change parties? Because as a Democrat she would be running within the party. As President Elizabeth Warren would truly be the best, I think it would be wonderful and historical to have Liz as the first woman President. Don't you?

Bernie has said he will become a "lowly Democrat" if he runs. ( seriously though I think it's just rude for you to call Democrats lowly, it was like a dagger to the heart for me to even type Bernie and lowly in the same sentence)

Liz/Bernie 2016!!!!!!! Bernie/Liz 2016!!!!!

[Autumn]

94. Don't be so cruel. I would never call you a troll.

You should always remember, words hurt. As Democrats we are better than that. Don't you find that to be true? Have you noticed how rude republicans are? In fact those assholes are down right mean, rattlesnake fucking mean. I don't like republicans, at all. All the Democrats I have ever known or talked to have been so nice. I talked to Hillary a couple of times and she was so nice and sweet, I talked to Obama and he held my hand and he was nice too. I hope someday I get to talk to Liz and Bernie.


Bernie/Liz 2016!!!! or Liz/Bernie 2016!!!!

[Autumn]

96. It's okay Nilla, I'm not offended.

[JDPriestly]

121. What do you mean by "run against the party"?

[Autumn]

97. Bernie supports Democrats too!

[A Simple Game]

155. I support liberals because you never know these days what is going to

come wrapped in a Democratic package.

[sabrina 1]

110. Isn't Bernie an Independent? He DOES often sound a lot more like a Democrat

than, say, Rahm Emmanuel, or some of our other Democrats who handed this victory to a minority of the voters in this country, but he is not a member of the Democratic Party regardless. There must be a reason for that, what do YOU think it might be?

[JDPriestly]

120. Bernie caucuses with Democrats. He is the chair of a committee.

He is a Democrat for all important purposes.

[Voice for Peace]

98. Everybody's a little broken hearted and cranky.

Kittens voting .. who could disenfranchise a kitten?

I am keeping fingers crossed that everybody in Congress
starts smoking pot, now that it's legal there.

[RKP5637]

102. I love kitties!!! n/t

[bettyellen]

104. THANKS FOR THE KITTEN CORPSE PICS, I feel better now!

[Voice for Peace]

106. oh gosh I don't think they are corpses.

it's possible they are zombie voting kittens, judging by
the way they are dressed, and their posture.

[bettyellen]

107. LOL, they usually are in those old pics. Can't look at em the same way after learning that...

[Voice for Peace]

108. seriously? stuffed?

[bettyellen]

109. Yep, take another look. Have you ever seen a live cat that content to be contorted into unnatural

poses? I would love to believe they were drugged or something, but some guy named Potter I think was the one who did a lot of these.
Sorry!

[Voice for Peace]

117. I don't think I Haz Cheezburger will like this.

He also showed appreciation for the displays: "My own favourites are these tableaux: there's a kittens' wedding party, with all these kittens dressed up in costumes, even wearing jewellery. The kittens don't look much like kittens, but that's not the point. There's a rats' drinking party, too which puts a different construction on Wind in the Willows. And a group of hamsters playing cricket."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Potter

[Voice for Peace]

118. we must hide this information from the cats

[kacekwl]

92. could not have said it better

Like the saying goes , If you stand for nothing you will fall .

[sendero]

134. Obama himself...

... offered the Chained CPI for SS, effectively a cut. You think no voter remembered that?

Obama has done a lot to damage the Democratic brand, whether you recognize it or not.

[redruddyred]

137. still, that's no reason for people to suddenly jump ship

and swim to the other side.

tho one person told me she was doing exactly that.

this election makes no sense.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

142. No he hasn't. Voters who are lazy and refuse to stay engaged did a lot of damage

to the brand.

Oddly enough, you say nothing of Bill Clinton. Only the black dude. Got it.

[LondonReign2]

154. Believe it or not, not every criticism of Obama is because he is black

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2013/04/obamas-chained-cpi-throws-off-pols-and-heres-how-it-works/

"President Obama’s outline for government spending in fiscal year 2014 includes a controversial proposal that has not only thrown the Republican Party off balance at the outset of upcoming budget negotiations but has also split his own party.

The proposal is a move to slow entitlement spending, and it goes by the name Chained CPI.

The president’s budget recommends a chained Consumer Price Index, or CPI"

I guess you can quibble whether or not a budget outline is a proposal, but clearly he floated the idea out there.

[VanillaRhapsody]

51. I understood it perfectly

Perhaps a case of selective ignorance

[Autumn]

55. Don't be so hard on Liberal_Stalwart71, I think he just didn't understand the post, the one where I

said "That would be correct, and....?." It seemed to make the poster angry. Go figure

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5770050

[BlueCaliDem]

77. That's exactly what it is, Vanilla.

We've seen the anti-Obama posts infesting DU and the so-called Democrats who were cheerleading them. They ain't foolin' nobody with their acute case of selective ignorance which is nothing more than an act to cover their behinds.

Btw, I didn't have any problems understanding Liberal_Stalwart's post, either.

[Autumn]

78. Let me see if I can help you out here

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025769377#post1 where a poster asks if we have a strong party that will prevent anything from happening

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025769377#post12 where I ask if they are watching Obamas press conference where he is talking about what he will do to get things, like say immigration done and how he will go around them if he has to if they don't want to work with him , you know stuff like that, just in case you guys might have missed the interview.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025769377#post21 where another poster is SHOCKED that I dared reply to another poster because some how that person thinks I picked on Obama because Bernie did not throw this president under the bus. He directly pointed the finger at the Republicans!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025769377#post23 where I agree that Bernie didn't throw anyone under the bus and stood up for Obama oh noes I agreed with him, that makes me angry. Me HULK

I'm sure if you try real fucking hard you might get the rest but I doubt it will suit your narrative. Pay close fucking attention to post 23 cause that's where your "friend" went off the rails and your other "friend' isn't capable of reading just in case you want to explain it to them.

I agree with you for sure there is an infestation of DU, we just have different opinions as to who it is.

Alert button bottom left corner.

[VanillaRhapsody]

81. Yeah there is definitely an infestation.....I'm looking at one of them...

[Autumn]

82. Put down the mirror Sweetie

Now I'm done playing with you so you have a real nice day.

[corkhead]

126. ha ha

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Put down the mirror Sweetie
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[adirondacker]

128. Someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed, but glad to see the jury was awake.

[KingCharlemagne]

63. I like Sanders but he's no Socialist. (Maybe 'Social Democrat' but that's as

close as he gets, at least in his public utterances.) Socialists believe in public ownership of the means of production (factories and farms). I've never once heard Sanders call for nationalizing the means of production.

[adirondacker]

135. I suspect the people calling him a Socialist are probably the same mentality of one calling Obama a

Commie Socialist Fascist Dictator. ie No clue and no matter how many times it's explained to them, like a teabagger zombie they'll reuse the term ad nauseam.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

122. Thank you for saying this. You nailed it.

Democrats have turned into little whiny babies, whining and whining at their OWN candidates the way a baby does at its mommy, rather than getting out there and voting lib. After watching this election, I know Democrat voters are immature babies, not grown ups.

[A Simple Game]

156. Why thank you, I may not be a Democrat but I did my best to vote for

the most liberal candidates I could.

But why would you call Democrats that voted immature babies? Why would you say a baby whines at it's mother, don't they usually whine for their mothers and how does that relate to Democratic and their candidates?

[cilla4progress]

153. I agree.

And wait till they start trying to rollback the ACA in say, Kentucky.

Sadly, the Dems there will be punished equally with the Repubs.

[Brigid]

2. Bernie is right, of course.

But what I want to know is: What did Repug voters think they were voting for? It isn't as if the Repug representatives have made it any secret that they want to do these things.

[LondonReign2]

16. Read the Rude Pundit's post about his brother-in-law

It's fascinating. His BIL basically admitted to agreeing with Landrieu on most issues but voted Republican anyway. Bizarre.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

22. Where can I read Rude Pundit's post? I love him. I want to know what he voted

against Landrieu.

[hifiguy]

30. Here ya go!

http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/2014/11/random-observations-on-reaming-thatll.html

[AleksS]

62. The Rude Pundit didn't vote against Landrieu, his Brother In Law did, BUT

The Rude Pundit didn't vote against Landrieu, his Brother In Law did, BUT what was interesting was that his B-i-L agreed with Landrieu on most issues, but said he "felt dirty" thinking about voting for her.

The RP's post was an excellent discourse on how people love liberal policies/positions, but hate liberals. Something worth thinking about. The RP noticed (as I hope everyone else does) that liberal policies won on ballot initiatives overwhelmingly, and across the board--in red and blue states. Yet, in a state that voted 60%+ for, say raising the minimum wage, they simultaneously voted 60%+ for republicans who will likely work to cut the minimum wage.

It's a disgusting disconnect. So many people are so afraid (ashamed?) of voting for a liberal or Democrat, that they'll gladly vote on one hand for liberal policies, while with the other hand voting for a rep. who will do the exact opposite.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

69. That's what I meant. I'm tired. Been up all night without a lick of sleep.

And been at work since 7:00 this morning. I'm typing fast and probably made some mistakes.

Yes, his brother in law down there in LA voted against Landrieu although he admitted that he agrees with her. Cognitive dissonance at its finest.

Similar here in Maryland where Democrats, even Republicans like O'Malley and admit that he did well for the state, but they just "wanted to see a change," so they voted Republican. I don't get that logic. If a party is serving you well, why change leadership? Again, the lack of reason baffles me.

I'd like to see his post.

[Eleanors38]

127. Newt Gingrich set the terms & parameters of debate

almost 30 yrs. ago: Cast liberals and Democrats as mealy-mouthed, untrustworthy, immoral, corrupt, and above all WEAK. Then you will learn to hate them.

Everybody hates bullies, but they hate the bullied more. And when the Democratic Party went corporate -- and it has -- it imposed self-censorship. Gingrich knew this, and was thus born that most "dirty" and hated punching bag in American culture: The meek Weakling.

All the rest is secondary.

[7962]

136. My neighbor: "I dont live in Nevada, I cant vote against Harry Reid, so I have to vote against Nunn

even though I think she might be a decent senator. I just dont like Reid"
And thats a registered Democrat.

[DebJ]

18. Having a prurient interest in what other people do with their sexual organs. n/t

[LibDemAlways]

26. Repuke voters thought they were voting for

getting rid of gay marriage and gay rights in general, deporting undocumented immigrants, the right to own as many firearms of any type of their choosing, getting rid of "Obamacare&quot even though they have no idea what it is), and "Godly" candidates who pretend to be all in favor of faith, family, and freedom.

What they were actually voting for was unclean water and unsafe food, cuts in Social Security, Medicare, and any program that might have the slightest chance of helping the little guy, more wars, and just generally the end of what's left of any semblance of Democracy.

[hifiguy]

32. Blammo.

But they don't really give a shit about their own misery as long as them uppity Negroes, wimmins and homos get put back in the places where Gawd wants 'em to be. There are no words for the abject and non-quantifiable stupidity.

[mountain grammy]

36. Exactly!

[zelduh]

65. Can we agree to let the South secede now?

[Dustlawyer]

70. It would be easier if you would secede, I am an American first, who is working to make things better

Rick Perry doesn't speak for me, I am staying right here and so is the South. Learn to appreciate that there are Progressive Democrats here in the South as well, and we are getting awfully tired of the "let the South secede" BS!
There is racism and Republicans in every state in the Union, even in whatever place you call home. Ignoring the South every election, only focusing on battle ground states, allows Conservatism to become institutionalized. No other message but Tea Party crap gets played here, but many of us are working hard to change that. For you, a fellow Democrat, to want to write us off is a slap in the face, and I for one am tired of getting my face slapped.

[jtuck004]

76. +This. n/t

[ms liberty]

80. This...n/t

[Stardust]

123. This. I was born and raised in the South but circumstances permitted me to live in many other

areas. While I'll concede that there are uninformed people in abundance in the South, I live in the Los Angeles area now, and I'm surrounded by 'em. So I kinda cringe when DUers paint all of the South with such a broad brush. Be aware that many of your fellow DUers are from somewhere you may not like, but they call it home.

[AngryOldDem]

131. +1

[DocMac]

68. Right on! nt

[Maedhros]

34. They were holding their noses and voting for deeply flawed candidates,

because if they didn't The Horrible Other would win.

Sounds familiar.

[hedda_foil]

60. They seem to have thought they were voting for Eisenhower.

A return to the postwar, pre- equal rights and voting rights good old days when they and their kids had far, far more opportunity to succeed than they ever will with the job killing trade agreements we are having forced down our throats. Eisenhower was far more liberal than 3rd Way/DLC Dems.

[L0oniX]

139. ...and we thought we were voting for FDR?

[n2doc]

3. And they will blame Obama for it all

Because the raving lunatics on the radio and tv will tell them that Obama is responsible for all bad things that happen.

[tk2kewl]

8. If he signs that shit he will deserve it IMO

[L0oniX]

140. You know he will ...gotta keep reaching out.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

24. And so will many Democrats, too, sadly. Case in point, the poster who just

responded to you.

Wonder why we lost last night? Posters like that who continue to blame Democrats rather than Republicans. Who the president rather than the Republican leadership.

That's why we lost!

[ballyhoo]

37. Baloney. When it comes time for Obama to sign the bills for Reductions in SS and/or Medicare,

the passage of TPP and Keystone, WATCH HIM SIGN THEM! Then come back and tell me how honorable he is. We lost because it was the Republicans job to stop Obama. And that's what the people did, even in places that were Obama stalwarts.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

41. Whine, whine, whine. Obama's going to do this, and Obama's going to do that.

Keep whining and crying. ON IGNORE.

[ballyhoo]

43. Good.

[Skittles]

74. TAKE IT AS A BADGE OF HONOR

gawd I am SICK of those folk who think Democrats are relieved of any responsibility whatsoever

[ballyhoo]

86. I do. Saying more than I usually do today because I KNOW

what caused a loss of this magnitude. I don't know if you've been following news reports today (for what they are worth) but apparently the Republicans either set or almost set a record for State House and Senate seats in the States where those elections were held. I can't remember the percentage increase but it was huge. The Koch Brothers couldn't have paid for all of it. As I posted to Enthusiast earlier, I think it was all scripted and the play goes on. We will know about the time of the debt limit increase and what Obama agrees to. If Republicans do certain things I believe there will be a revolt. I still got my Zombie suit I wore Friday night in the closet. I'm ready.

[L0oniX]

141. ^^^this^^^

[Scootaloo]

47. What if ballyhoo's right and he does sign them, though?

Not saying he will. But if he does? What?

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

59. We cross that road when we get there, but how many times have we gotten

to that road and he didn't do it? We all flipped out for absolutely nothing!

Why not we all keep the pressure on this president to ensure that he does the right thing?

[Skittles]

75. we are flipping out NOW over something

something REAL

[Mnpaul]

115. If we wait until then

it will be too late. If this crap passes, the Democrats can kiss 2016 goodbye as well. We need to make a big stink about it now. We have to make it toxic.

[CountAllVotes]

58. +1

[Skittles]

73. do Dems have any responsibility, EVER?

SERIOUSLY!!!

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

143. Of course they do. If you read any of my posts you'll see that I blame

weak-kneed Blue Dogs that side with Republicans. I have stated thousands of times, ad nauseum, that the Democratic party is NOT a monolith--there are liberals, moderates, conservatives in the party. That's the price we pay for having an open tent.

Either we are going to be an open tent party, allowing many views and ideologies or we're only allowing "liberal purists" in. Which one is it?

This is the price we paid for the 50 State Strategy. When we go to ALL 50 states, it is inevitable that we're going to get liberals, moderates, and conservatives.

Why is that so difficult to understand?

Not everyone is going to be liberal like us?

[Skittles]

148. I'd say the blame starts at the top

that's the difference

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

149. Of course you know. That's the most simplistic, easiest thing to do. It takes little

nuance, intellect, or rational thought.

Good for you.

[Skittles]

150. LOLOL

anyone thing avoid assigning any responsibility to where the buck stops - GOOD FOR YOU!!!

[spanone]

4. i'm sure that the republicans will cloak what they are doing in innocuous sounding names...

and the media will promote them as such.....

the people won't know what they got as they choose to remain ignorant

[Cleita]

6. He listed some of them.

"entitlement reform"
"balancing the budget"

among them. I can't remember the rest of the code phrases, but Bernie listed them on the Thom Hartmann show this morning.

[Johonny]

9. +1

I wrote this last night, Rude Pundit hit on it this morning, Bernie is in on this too. People didn't vote for the Republican agenda yesterday, but they sure are going to get it. Why people don't understand that... I will never know. I told my co-workers this morning I expect a layoff. They were shocked. What do they think austerity means...

[KingCharlemagne]

64. We're looking at the next recession in about 6-9 months, by my guess, as soon as macroeconomic

activity starts to slacken b/c of 'austerity' or whatever the latest buzz word is for cuts to the social safety net. This recession will be far more cruel though, given the cuts to Food Stamps and weakening of unemployment insurance. The Clinton era already did in welfare, so it won't be around to help pick up the slack either.

If you're in the bottom 90%, better batten down the hatches. We are in for a rough couple of years.

[missmo1951]

19. I love:

"Patient centered" healthcare to replace Obamacare. What the eff does that mean?

[hifiguy]

33. Bend over, here it comes again

is what it means. Die if you're poor.

[ballyhoo]

38. Health Savings Accounts that you have to go to the bank to fund @ 18 1/4 APR.

[Enthusiast]

5. K&R! Bernie is always right on.

[turbinetree]

7. YES

Sanders and Warren speak volumes to protecting the poor and middle calls and they represent what Francis Perkins was all about:

[Tatiana]

10. Wow. This guy sounds like more of a Democrat than most Democrats. n/t

[Mnpaul]

116. and that really bothers them

Bernie has a message that resonates with voters. They don't. Bernie trounced the Republicans in every last voting district. Many by a 2 to 1 margin. They want you to believe that he can't win against Republicans.

[HockeyMom]

11. They won't bring back jobs from overseas either

because that favors the RICH and corporations. Republicans will do nothing to help the poor and middle class. I am an old woman. These things run in cycles. Americans need to learn lessons, and unfortunately, it is a matter of you don't know what you've got until it's gone.

Yes, Americans need to be taught another lesson. Hopefully, everything won't be destroyed before it is too late to go back.

[valerief]

15. Nope. TPP will ship off EVEN MORE. nt

[Whiskeytide]

45. You touched on something I have been griping about for years....

... The impending Wall Street meltdown in 2008 - you know --- the one we bailed out!!! THAT was where the lessons should have been learned. As painful as it would have been to allow those assholes to go under and take much of our economy with it, we WOULD have learned from it. We learned from the Great Depression - but then we forgot the lesson.

There have been no dramatic lessons about the consequences of Republican rule in the last 30 years or so. All of their actions have "gradually" eroded the education system, the safety net and everything else the democrats worked so hard to accomplish in the forty years following the Depression. Accordingly, no one has noticed it. They know life kinda sucks right now, but they can't quite figure out how it got that way.

(SIGH!!). Sorry. Just felt like voicing my gripe again.

[KingCharlemagne]

67. No big fan of the bailouts here -- I thought the TBTF banks should have been nationalized, their

management fired and their assets expropriated for the people -- but the suffering that would have occurred had the TBTF banks not been bailed out would have been several orders of magnitude worse than what we actually did endure. Banks had stopped lending to each other because none of them could trust the collateral other banks were using to secure overnight loans. Some sort of bailout HAD to occur to prevent such massive suffering. The question is what sort of bailout was appropriate. I favored nationalization. Instead we got this weird sort of inverted socialism where the risks were socialized (via the bailouts) but rewards remained privatized (via stock dividends and cap gains). I attribute that to the absence of a viable left here since the 1950s.

[DeSwiss]

13. Tax breaks for billionaires......

...in a bankrupt financial system sounds about right, Bernie. Wait'll they get a load of total global economic collapse. They'll need those tax breaks to stand on so they can hang themselves with more accuracy.

- Jumping off tall buildings is so 1929......

K&R

[valerief]

14. But, Bernie, no TV or newspaper or radio or mainstream internet site is going to tell them about it.

It will happen, just like the massive protests have happened over the past 15 years, and there will be a media blackout. Sure, they'll feel the effects of SS and Medicare cuts (I'm shitting my pants over it), but nothing will be explained to them. Each affected person will think it's just happening to them alone and has nothing whatsoever to do with the way they voted or that they didn't vote at all.

[Omaha Steve]

17. I can't wait for the NE 2016 caucus

He gets my support.

[C Moon]

20. When the GOP fucks things up, the left is put back in to fix it...

Then, as things begin to improve, the voters forget what happened and get riled up about things like banning abortion, gun rights, etc, at which point the GOP gets put back in...and it starts all over.

But we got dangerously close under Bush to falling flat on our faces. I surely hope the GOP isn't able to ruin our security net.

[DocMac]

71. I guess the people haven't hit rock bottom

[C Moon]

119. Yeah. I'm really worried about that now. Seriously.

This is like a nightmare. They have complete control now (outside of vetoes by the President).

My guess is they'll go whole hog extreme right, make him veto and veto and veto, blame him for the country's stagnancy, and then vote to impeach.

[City Lights]

25. I wish that were true.

Unfortunately, most Americans pay little or no attention to what goes on in Washington. That's why we're in this mess in the first place.

[Lifelong Protester]

28. If they paid any attention, would they vote back in

the Obstructionist Party?

[City Lights]

61. No. nt

[daleanime]

35. K&R....

[mountain grammy]

40. Yes, but they don't care cause Fox and the rest of the media won't tell them

and anything they lose they will blame Obama and Democrats just because. America is corporate media driven.

[Vinca]

46. Kentucky residents didn't vote to lose their healthcare, but it's now on the table.

But, per Mitch, they can keep the web site for old time's sake. Stupid, stupid voters.

[sammy750]

48. Bernie, give the old, senile people what they want.

They need to understand their votes count and may affect them. Take away their SS, Medicare, food stamps, let the people suffer and maybe they will make sense when they vote in 2016. Let's make life difficult for the people and wake them up to reality.

[djean111]

125. There's that stupid fucking broad brush again.

Old person here, live on my Social Security, always vote Dem.
And cutting social security fucks up everybody, because we fucking SPEND it and help the economy.
Take your knee-jerk shock doctrine stuff somewhere else.
Bad enough incremental cuts are on the table - and who put them there?

[theHandpuppet]

49. Buyer's remorse is comin' right up!

Folks are about to learn the hard way.

[subterranean]

50. I have to disagree with Bernie on this.

Many people did vote for those things. It's no big secret that the Republicans favor tax breaks for the wealthy, would like to privatize Social Security and Medicare and oppose raising the minimum wage, if not the very concept of a minimum wage. They may not have highlighted that in their campaigns, but anyone who pays even a little bit of attention to the two parties' positions and still voted Republican had to have known what they were voting for. Only the very low-information or no-information voters might be surprised. Or not, because they will probably choose to remain ignorant.

[charlespercydemocrat]

53. 2018 will be a democratic crush.

By 2018 the democrats will get control of senate and congress and this will be forgotten.

[ballyhoo]

57. That will be too late. The damage will have been done.

[marions ghost]

79. agree

too far away. Much damage can be done.

[AzDar]

54. K & R

[berksdem]

66. i wish

Bernie were the next president...

[Skittles]

72. stupid, STUPID people

[DrBulldog]

91. Bernie was being polite ...

... what he really said was that American voters are the dumbest in the world.

[ozone_man]

93. Likely to happen.

Especially since Obama was not strong on SS to begin with.

It is very strange to watch the political swings, when half or more of the electorate does not think through the implications of their vote or party. On the other hand, maybe it is a smart move (channeling Hillary) to let the swing go the other way to make the populace want something different (again), in 2016. These are difficult times, with everything that was dumped in Obama, mainly the middle east wars, and the economy/banking fiasco. I credit him with launching some kind of national health care policy. On the banking and war front, I'd say he is slightly better than Bush.

I suspect that regardless of a president's personal ideals, the reality of options is laid out in front of him.

[onecaliberal]

99. I love Bernie but I have to disagree

If you voted republican yesterday, you had to know that's what you were voting for because those are the only things cons have tried to do for the last 6 years. You'd have to be under a rock not to know.

[B Calm]

100. or a fox news viewer. .

but I guess that's no different than living under a rock.

[onecaliberal]

101. Very true.

[AngryOldDem]

132. I don't think the average GOP voter knows.

All they hear is God, and how the Republicans are going to save the country from all the moral evils in the world. The GOP has played to right-wing prejudice and intolerance for years. Just watching Fox News for five minutes confirms that.

Remember the Sinclair Lewis quote: "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." Sound at all familiar?

[NorthCarolina]

103. Bernie is a shining example of what an elected public servant SHOULD be.

It's a no-win situation anymore. Vote for the GOP and benefit the top 1%. Vote for the Democrats who are tightly controlled by the DLC crew and the results are essentially the same... benefit the top 1%. Neither party represents my interests..I guess I should hang up my Dem affiliation and re-register as an independent. I will hold out a bit longer though just in case Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren end up on a Dem primary ballot, however once they crown Hillary as the nominee I'm outta here.

[Maedhros]

151. The problem is, too many rank-and-file Democrats are willing to let the Party serve the 1%

as long as it pays lip service to their single issue.

[NorthCarolina]

157. Most are in DC for the singular purpose of lining their own pockets...plain...and...simple

It's a rigged game for the elite, and elite wannabees lucky enough to have connections.

[JohnnyRingo]

105. Wise word from a sage

He's right that no one intentionally votes for the rich. They vote for hatred of the poor.

Hatred for minorities, secret contempt for the homeless, and a foundation of hate for the social programs that aid the downtrodden. Looking down on people who are without means is the only thing that makes some people feel like they're middle class, and the more beneath them the better they feel. The fact is, they're only two or three paychecks away from welfare themselves.

What I call "Barstool Republicans" are frustrated that they go to work sixty hours a week in a dead end low paying job and see the idle living in an apartment, driving a car, and eating every day. They see their lives as no better for all the effort.

If the lowly targets of those Barstool Republicans would show up at the polls, things would change. Unfortunately they represent the smallest bloc of American voters. There's a myriad of reasons they don't vote, but the fact remains.

[roamer65]

111. If you voted for them or you didn't vote, you "voted" for the Rethug agenda.

This election was a mix of mean spirited people and those who did not show up.

[treestar]

112. the second and third things they did vote for

capitalism should decide the wages! And billionaires will start new businesses that will create a lot of jobs!

The first they probably don't realize they need, or they think they are going to be so rich someday they won't have to worry.

[mimi85]

113. I think the biggest problem is that

most people didn't vote period.

[SoapBox]

114. As others have said...

Yup.

[UglyGreed]

124. Wish Bernie

could be our next President....I can dream right

[AngryOldDem]

129. Now they have to own it.

Be careful what you wish for, folks.

Maybe this will wake up the rank and file to the fact that the GOP, at the end of the day, doesn't really give a flying fuck about them. Or about the rest of us, for that matter.

[TheNutcracker]

133. Run Bernie run!!!!

[ctsnowman]

138. K & R

[woo me with science]

144. We need Bernie now

more than ever.

[ReRe]

145. K&R

The sad thing is, will they learn anything from what we will all suffer from because of their choice? I was sure Kansas had to have learned what to do with the opportunity to vote Brownback out. There is definitely something amiss with the electorate. Is it the abortion issue? Is it religious fundamentalism? They just don't seem to mind the consequences of their choices, let alone how it's going to hurt EVERYONE in our country.

[JEB]

146. K&R

[lark]

147. Way too many people in this country are ignorant of facts.

SCOTUS has engineered this by stating that news, advertisements, political ads can be totally lies and is still protected. SCOTUS has given foreign corporations more control over our elections than our citizens thought Citizens United by allowing them and the rich as fuck 1% here to literally buy the elections. They create so much confusion, low information voters get rolled. Even when they do all the things Bernie said, if Obama doesn't veto them, if any Dems for them (which some of the more craven assholes will) - they will demonize Dems as cutting Medicare and it will destroy the party.

Sorry for the doom and gloom, I just can't see any silver lining and think our democracy is vanishing before my eyes.

[Zorra]

152. Please, please run for President, Bernie! nt