Blame Hillary.

[Beausoir]

It's all her fault.

With all the teeth gnashing and wailing and mourning that is going on here.....still....DUers are blaming Hillary Clinton.

And you wonder what the hell went wrong last night.

[MannyGoldstein]

1. Do you think that the Third-Way takeover of our party leadership

has anything to do with last night's results?

[tavalon]

3. So, so much, along with what I said a moment ago.

One of the reasons I think we need to bring Howard Dean back to the DNC is to try to get the cancer out. And yes, Third Way is a cancer and the patient is really, really, really sick.

[MannyGoldstein]

7. Hillary is the Queen of the Third Way, ergo

she has some responsibility.

[tavalon]

10. Maybe, but running away from a good President

was a dumbass move.

[brooklynite]

5. So our Gov candidates in MA, MD and IL were Third Way?

Our House members who lost were all Third Way?

The State Legislative seats we lost were all Third Way?

Who knew?

[MannyGoldstein]

6. Coakley essentially is.

Can't vouch for the rest, but here's a good analysis:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025764241

[tavalon]

2. Um, I think it was wimpy Democrats running from their President,

who actually has done a lot of good. In other words, our idiot team used the same damn strategy they use over and over and over and over.

Bring back Howard Dean. He was smart and savvy and it's time to get our mojo back. He would never have allowed that silliness.

We'll be talking about Hillary for the next two years, but she didn't have a damn thing to do with the stupid behavior that too many of our fellow chickenshit Dems chose to engage in. Fucking idiots.

Never abandon your President when he's popular and Obama is actually wildly popular. Ask Al Gore.

[CoffeeCat]

4. I don't blame Hillary...

It wouldn't matter what Democrat stumped for our Democratic candidates.

The problems are bigger than the politicians. The problem is that House and Senate candidates can be purchased by billionaires. Their dark, tea-party agendas can be hidden with slick ads and a folksy-down-home PR campaign.

That's the problem. That's what happened here in Iowa. It's how Joni Ernst was elected.

So no, it's not Hillary's fault. The question is--Is Hillary doing anything about our democracy being converted into a plutocracy by Citizen's United. Does she speak out about corporate corruption and the neocon warmongering that is destroying our nation and enriching the elites? I think we all know what those answers are.

So yeah. Let's not blame Hillary for last-night's defeats when there are plenty of other legitimate gripes about her.

[Cha]

9. Well done, CoffeeCat.

[RtHonLordBob]

8. Third-wayers

Next cycle, we need to pour resources into the primaries. It's clear that getting true progressives to beat the corporatists in the primary is the best way to win the general. Next cycle there will be a lot of easily winnable seats too, so the primaries will be especially important.

In the meantime, it think we should launch a campaign to pressure the politicians to shake up the "leadership."
As I posted somewhere else:
This loss provides an opportunity for progressives to press hard to change the whole leadership. Democrats should respond to 2014 by replacing Harry Reid with Elizabeth Warren; Debbie Wasserman Schultz with Howard Dean; Nancy Pelosi with Jared Polis or some other strong progressive. This would send the message the we're not retreating but instead standing up for things that will get the voters energized next time around. It would also give us leadership in both houses tough enough to stand up to Republican shenanigans. These are trying times for the party, and we can't survive with corporateist, careerist, wet rags like Reid, Pelosi, and Wasserman Schultz at the helm.

We should see about getting the Progressive Change Campaign Committee to organize a campaign to pressure the politicians to shake up the leadership.

[KingCharlemagne]

11. The flame-out of the entire Hillary slate demonstrates that she can no longer

seriously lay claim to be the presumptive nominee.

The way is now open for Sanders to change his party registration to Dem and take it to her. A full-throated primary campaign will be a good thing for the party and our democracy.

[djean111]

12. As if, if we had won, Hillary supporters would not be screeching that it was all due to Hillary.

People are not blaming Hillary for everything, People are blaming third way politics. Hillary may embody those poltics, but she is just not, evidently, that powerful. Anyway, who did she stump for, and how did they do?