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DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 02:37 AM Nov 2014

Ruth: Cowering Democrats got the result they deserved

http://www.tampabay.com/opinion/columns/ruth-cowering-democrats-got-the-result-they-deserved/2205300

From the article:

Wouldn't it have been refreshing for a Democrat like, say, Crist to stand up and say something like, "You're &^%$#*^ right I'm a Democrat and proud to be associated with a president who dragged the country out of the Bush recession, saved the auto industry and bumped off Osama bin Laden. And yeah, I'm proud to stand with a president under whom GDP is up, gas prices are down, unemployment is at its lowest level since 2007 and the deficit has been slashed by a third — accomplished I might add while having to deal with an obstructionist Congress. You have a problem with that?"
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Ruth: Cowering Democrats got the result they deserved (Original Post) DonCoquixote Nov 2014 OP
Yes that would have been good to hear Zambero Nov 2014 #1
+1. n/t Laelth Nov 2014 #16
Except Gwen Graham won in Florida by saying "I am not Obama or Pelosi" Recursion Nov 2014 #2
Gallego lost by 2 points - Just checked LeftInTX Nov 2014 #4
Damn, you're right. Is there another Gallego? Recursion Nov 2014 #5
Pete Gallego Congressional District 23 LeftInTX Nov 2014 #6
Yeah, you're right. Politico was having some weirdness Recursion Nov 2014 #7
Ruben Gallego is a Democrat who won a House seat from an Arizona district (AZ-7) pinboy3niner Nov 2014 #8
Oh, well then there are two Gallegos. I was talking about Gallego of TX-23 Recursion Nov 2014 #9
That is such a poignant paragraph... Last_Stand Nov 2014 #3
Half Right billhicks76 Nov 2014 #10
Very much agree, and I am not much of a Bill Maher fan. n/t truedelphi Nov 2014 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author woo me with science Nov 2014 #14
A freakin MEN n/t bobGandolf Nov 2014 #11
That wouldn't have done a damn bit of good in states Art_from_Ark Nov 2014 #13
You can only speculate because they never even tried. Bandit Nov 2014 #20
I'll tell you that Obama campaigned for Blanche Lincoln in Arkansas in 2010 Art_from_Ark Nov 2014 #22
They don't cower. They collude. woo me with science Nov 2014 #15
I have no idea how that is not fully recognized. They aren't weak. They get paid. nt stillwaiting Nov 2014 #19
Which means we got the result rock Nov 2014 #17
That's what Grimes should have said when asked if she voted for Obama Martin Eden Nov 2014 #18
What happened with Obama in this election cycle... Takket Nov 2014 #21

Zambero

(8,964 posts)
1. Yes that would have been good to hear
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 02:41 AM
Nov 2014

All factual, to the point, and no negative sound byte material. Many missed opportunities for the losers to ponder.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
2. Except Gwen Graham won in Florida by saying "I am not Obama or Pelosi"
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 02:58 AM
Nov 2014

Like I keep saying, the blue dog caucus only netted a single loss yesterday (3 losses, 2 pick-ups) -- those were the only two pick-ups our party got, incidentally.

EDIT: Actually it looks like a net wash; for some reason I had Gallego down as a loss but he won. So it's two losses and two pick-ups.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
5. Damn, you're right. Is there another Gallego?
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 03:31 AM
Nov 2014

I keep getting weirdly different numbers from Politico.

EDIT: nope, there's one Gallego, and he lost. So it's back to -1 for blue dogs.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
7. Yeah, you're right. Politico was having some weirdness
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 03:36 AM
Nov 2014

So, among the Blue Dogs, Barrows, Gallego, and Rahall lost. With Graham and Ashford as pick-ups who would presumably join the caucus (unless Ashford switches parties again).

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
8. Ruben Gallego is a Democrat who won a House seat from an Arizona district (AZ-7)
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 03:45 AM
Nov 2014

Not an incumbent, but he beat a Libertarian to win the seat.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
9. Oh, well then there are two Gallegos. I was talking about Gallego of TX-23
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 03:47 AM
Nov 2014

Gallego of Texas lost.

Now that you say that, I realize my pick-up data only applies to taking seats from Republicans. I'll look into that.

Edit: AZ-7 was held by Pastor (D) before, so not a pick-up...

Last_Stand

(286 posts)
3. That is such a poignant paragraph...
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 03:19 AM
Nov 2014

I have so many problems with things that I wish President Obama had said or done, but I have a much bigger issue that these spineless fuckers ran away from the good things he DID accomplish in the face of a very hostile congress.

Arggh...trying hard not to lose hope in a hopeless world.

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
10. Half Right
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 04:03 AM
Nov 2014

"I feel bad for the people Democrats are supposed to represent, not the Democratic candidates. They remind me of the Iraqi Army - running when they should fight."
- Bill Maher

You are right about cowards but I'm sorry Obama is the biggest one. He's always capitulating to corporations and republicans. It's gotten so bad I thought he wasn't a spineless coward but actually one of them. The worst is his defense of NSA, the Drug War racket and torture... Even worse than putting all lobbyists in regulatory positions and secrecy.

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Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
13. That wouldn't have done a damn bit of good in states
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 05:23 AM
Nov 2014

where Obama got 40% of the vote. Unemployment is coming down, but most of the new jobs being created are crappy low-paying jobs with little or no long-term future. Killing bin Laden has had little if any effect on ordinary people's lives, as he was just replaced with a new bogeyman. And the only people who give a crap about GDP are economists, investors, and die-hard political junkies.

Bandit

(21,475 posts)
20. You can only speculate because they never even tried.
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 10:03 AM
Nov 2014

Why do you think so many on this board are as upset with them. Not becuase they lost, though that hurts, but because they never even tried..They ran from all their accomplishments. Obama didn't do anything by himself. It took Congress to get the bills passed and that means Democrats in Congress. They ran from their work instead of embracing it. Cowards and losers. I doubt I will ever vote for any of them again. What difference would it make anyway..

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
22. I'll tell you that Obama campaigned for Blanche Lincoln in Arkansas in 2010
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 10:12 AM
Nov 2014

and she ended up losing by a margin of 2-to-1 to her Republican opponent. She thus became the first Democratic incumbent to lose a US Senate seat to a Republican in Arkansas since Reconstruction.

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
15. They don't cower. They collude.
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 06:55 AM
Nov 2014

So tired of corporate corruption being miscast for public consumption as some type of psychological neurosis.

Martin Eden

(12,870 posts)
18. That's what Grimes should have said when asked if she voted for Obama
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 08:07 AM
Nov 2014

The question was a golden opportunity for her to point those things out while explaining what Democrats stand for versus what Republicans stand for and against.

Instead, she came off sounding like she couldn't even support her own Party -- and ultimately, neither could enough voters.

Takket

(21,577 posts)
21. What happened with Obama in this election cycle...
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 10:09 AM
Nov 2014

Would be like the patriots (nfl team) not playing Tom Brady because ESPN says he stinks. So if the fans see Tom Brady benched, what are the supposed to think? That Brady doesn't stink?

The democrats simply accepted the MSM message on Obama so with concurrence between the media and the democrats, the voters were left with no choice but to accept that Obama and his policies were a failure. And rather than voting rethug, they just stayed home.

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