Diversion thread: Remember Mayo Shattuck? Wife Seduced 15-Yr. Old

[NJCher]

Last edited Thu Nov 6, 2014, 10:39 AM - Edit history (1)

OK, so losing to the republicans at midterm is depressing and we could all use a juicy scandal as a momentary diversion. So along comes Molly....

Here's Molly, oldest NFL cheerleader ever. Molly is estranged from Mayo and has, apparently, developed a penchant for sweet young things on Instagram. Since spring, she's developed an ongoing relationship with a 15-year old, with whom she has been accused of having oral sex.



Let me say upfront that Molly plays both sides of the fence. She contributes equally to republican and Democratic poltiics. Mayo, however, seems to have a murky background with the bushes:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2334740

Well, anyway, Molly's now out on bail of $88k (secured), due to the 15-year old coming forward and telling of the inappropriate advances she made to him at this beach house over Labor Day weekend:



Read the rest of the story at:

http://nypost.com/2014/11/05/former-nfl-cheerleader-charged-in-rape-of-15-year-old/

or

http://www.delawareonline.com/story/news/crime/2014/11/05/cops-ravens-cheerleader-sex-delaware-boy/18527125/

If you look at any of the clips of Molly talking, she is able to present herself well. She is articulate and charismatic, and she was building a career as a fitness expert.

If you look at the video clips of her as a cheerleader, however, it becomes apparent there's something wrong upstairs. The woman clearly has sex on the brain.

All in all, it certainly is convenient that she self-destructed. Now Mayo won't have to part with much of his multi-million dollar fortune and he'll probably get the kids.


Cher

[mercuryblues]

1. She raped

a minor. Such the juicy scandal, isn't it? There is nothing impressive about an alleged pedophile.

On a different message board guy 1 wants to find the kid and give him the luckiest boy in the world award.

guy 2 laments on why he can't be 15 again
guy 3 was getting "moist"
gut 4 wants to follow her on instagram
guy 5 thinks he gay because he complained
guy 6 thinks the boy should be punished
lady 1 blames the parents for not knowing where he was

this is among the countless posts about how 'hot' she is and how they would gladly 'bang' that.

So where is the disconnect? If a woman said that they would bang a male pedophile she would be slammed by both genders as something wrong with her and rightly so. When men say it they are slapped on the back and encouraged with ^5's.

Is this the reason young boys don't come forward? Have men always been like this or is the result of the shaming young girls have endured now transferred to the young boys?

[NJCher]

5. Think complex character

There is nothing impressive about an alleged pedophile.

I don't see people or the world in black/white categories, so of course, my post doesn't reflect that type of thinking.

A person can be a thief and be altruistic (Robin Hood).

I did, however, edit my post to reflect to say she makes an impressive presentation in her interpersonal communication. She is also ambitious and has what it takes to put a book together and promote what most of us believe in--a healthy, active lifestyle.

People are mixtures of bad and good, and that is what makes the story so interesting. Many important works of literature dwell on this quandary of humankind.

As another poster on this thread comments, what is it in these people that lets them think they'll get away with this?

Furthermore, do they even consider the consequences?


Cher

p.s. as far as your other question goes, I don't think women have traditionally been sex abusers. I think it's something that's been on the increase in the last few years. This is not to say it never existed, just that it is increasing. Again, and assuming for the moment that I am right, another interesting question: why?

[okieinpain]

7. the why is porn. n/t.

[NJCher]

11. are you saying that you think

women look at porn a lot?

It's an interesting point that you present, because porn is now available on the internet and thus is somewhat anonymous.

The women I know, though, find it repulsive. I can't even imagine looking at it; it would make me sick.

But I'm not everyone and need to understand there are other types of women out there. I've just never met any of them.


Cher

[okieinpain]

30. yeah, I don't know a lot of guys that say they watch porn either.

but it is a multi-billion dollar industry. I've also noticed that a lot of porn stars visit the local strip clubs in bible loving oklahoma.

[Kelvin Mace]

26. Most pedophiles are very personable.

It how they get victims and con them into keeping quiet.

[hfojvt]

14. are you male?

When I was 15 I was quite eager to have sex.

The reason a 15 year old (as opposed to a YOUNG boy) won't come forward is because neither they nor their peers think of themselves as victims.

Also, since her partner was post-pubescent, she is an ephebophile, and NOT a pedophile.

Wiki says this "Generally, the preference is not regarded by psychologists as a pathology when it does not interfere with other major areas of one's life, and is not listed by name as a mental disorder in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, 5th Edition (DSM-5), the ICD-10, or as a paraphilia." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ephebophilia

And there is nothing to say that she even has that preference.

[mercuryblues]

16. Giving

a minor alcohol and then allegedly raping him is a good indicator she is an ephebophile.

Whether you wanted sex was not a question. Would you willingly have sex with a 47 year old woman, when you were 15? The whole, but she's hot....What if the woman wasn't hot and did the exact same thing? Does she get also pass on rape? Or is it really rape, because she wasn't pretty enough?

That is why society has age of consent laws. Minors are not considered to be mature enough to freely give consent to a much older person who can manipulate them. Often through means of drugs and alcohol that diminishes their capacity.

The questions

Is this the reason young boys don't come forward? Have men always been like this or is the result of the shaming young girls have endured now transferred to the young boys?

[Comrade Grumpy]

17. Maybe the young boys don't come forward because they like it.

I was a teenage male once.

On edit: It isn't clear from the linked article, but it seems that somehow authorities at the school got wind of it. I would wager it was not because the boy was complaining, but because he was bragging.

[seabeyond]

20. i thought i read this was found out because the boy DID come forward. did i misread?

[mercuryblues]

21. I think

it could be interpreted either way. I read an article early this AM that worded it differently- the boy told someone and they notified authorities. When reading the OP link, I interpreted based on the earlier story I read., so I took it the same as you. Who knows with the lazy journalism that is so abundant. Every story says she had sex with him several times then lists the charges which includes the term rape. She did not "have sex" with him, she allegedly raped him.

I do wonder why they listed all of her charity work, was it to imply that because she is such a nice person it should somehow diminish the charges or is it to say watch out parents even people with such a stellar background can rape your kid?

Either way it does negate the fact that the boy was under the age of consent. Don't get me wrong, if she was 17 I most likely would have a different opinion. She is 47 huge difference.

[seabeyond]

22. if she was 17 I most likely would have a different opinion. She is 47 huge difference

yes

[hfojvt]

23. many young people are also eager to have alcohol

I wasn't myself, but many of my classmates seemed to be drinking by age 15.

Having only lived 52.5 years, I cannot say what men have always been like.

And yes, I would have had sex with a 47 year old if she was passable looking.

Not everybody has the same standards of "hotness" but yes, I am generally more willing to have sex with women I consider attractive, or very attractive than women I don't.

No, you don't have to decide the case based on hotness, you can ask the supposed victim if he gave consent. Although Delaware apparently has some strange age of consent laws. 17 year old girls can consent to sex, but 17 year old boys cannot (not even with 17 year old girls?). However, if a 17 year old girl consents to sex with a 30 year old, the state of Delaware calls that rape. Not really bad taste - rape. (whoops, lost my link)

[seabeyond]

19. are you female? when i was 15 i was quite eager to have sex. the reason a 15 yr old wont come forwar

... is many

and obviously this 15 yr old came forward.

i would be concerned with my boys ability to process this, and impact it made on them, in their 15 yr old self, no different than myself at 15 or a daughter.

men really have to get over themselves about this sex thing.

[hfojvt]

24. this case is about a boy

I won't presume to speak for girls, but I HAVE been a 15 year old boy. So I think I know something about them.

Yeah I don't get the whole "process this". What is there to process?

Men have to get over themselves? Or what? A whole bunch of 47 year old women will be having sex with 15 year old boys?

On second thought, maybe I do like that law. Tough break lonely ladies, those 15 year olds are out of bounds. You are gonna have to settle for a 52 year old.

[seabeyond]

25. ya. cause if you cannot have 15 that means 52. i stand by what i say.

nothing you said took away from it. you tried, but.... nope.

and the parts that totally went over your head, well, that is cool too.

[NaturalHigh]

27. "men really have to get over themselves about this sex thing"

What are you even talking about? The thread is about a 47-year-old woman who seduced a 15-year-old boy, and you think that "men really have to get over themselves about this sex thing"?

[seabeyond]

28. read mercury's post about what she is hearing men say about this boy, then re read mine.

see if it makes more sense. if not. meh....

[NaturalHigh]

29. I read both.

I still can't figure out what you're talking about.

[seabeyond]

18. very good post mercury. you hit on so many issues. nt

[NaturalHigh]

2. I had never heard of her before this.

Obviously she has some issues that need to be addressed. As I've said before, it always amazed me that people do things like this knowing that there is a great likelihood they will be caught.

[geek tragedy]

3. Imagine if the genders were reversed, would the language in this post be anywhere

near appropriate?

Ugh.

[Eleanors38]

4. What's a career when a pocket rocket is in-hand?

[wyldwolf]

6. "there's something wrong upstairs. The woman clearly has sex on the brain."

As long as she partakes with those 18 and over, what's wrong with that?

[okieinpain]

8. lol, that's what I don't understand why the one's that will get you in trouble.

I can't imagine what the difference is between a 15 year old and one that's 18 except one will get you in trouble with the law.

[wyldwolf]

9. Not going to touch that. I mean, there has to be line drawn somewhere.

...but to say having 'sex on the brain' means something 'isn't right upstairs' is a bit prudish to me.

[okieinpain]

10. something isn't right upstairs when "having sex on the brain" leads you

to jail and you know without a doubt that's what's going to happen. it's crazy.

[NJCher]

12. It was in reference to her cheerleading

As long as she partakes with those 18 and over, what's wrong with that?

Which is overtly sexual. If you look at it, it's like she thinks of herself as a sex kitten.

So what's wrong with it is she is diverting attention from her job, which is to cheer the team on. She is diverting attention to herself as a sex object.

My comment is directed more to her sense of "professionalism."



Cher

[wyldwolf]

13. Cher, a cheerleader's job is to be sexy and entertain the crowd. Sorry, that's a fact.

[NJCher]

15. LOL

I am ignorant about sports, so thanks. Fact accepted.

It's just that I thought she was distracting attention from the team to herself. This doesn't seem very professional, but I am hardly a worthy commentator, as I have never watched a game of anything in my life!


Cher