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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsReTHUGs talk about electoral fraud non-stop because
they are the ones who commit it - using voter intimidation, ID cards, RW police stops and bogus lists about who can and cannot vote.
Let the hacks celebrate their victory - I'll pass.
RKP5637
(67,111 posts)deflection behavior.
malaise
(269,054 posts)Same with the meme about the liberal media. There is no fucking liberal media - there is the corporate media obsessed with its own profit margins - so divide and rule into blue and red means that they benefit big time with the attack ads.
madokie
(51,076 posts)I'm sure their bottom line will show that the so called 'libral media' took in a ton of cash this last election cycle.
Its one hand washing the other
malaise
(269,054 posts)Dividing America is now M$Greedia's cash cow.
madokie
(51,076 posts)who want to push their will off on us whether we want what they're selling or not.
bigbrother05
(5,995 posts)By cycling their "free speech" through the superpacs and media centers, they pay off the politicians without letting the money get out of the 0.01% hands. Probably about a dozen folks that are playing the system like checkers. Didn't say chess because that's too nuanced to represent their blatant manipulation.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)monmouth4
(9,708 posts)"glitches" never happen in northern Florida?
RKP5637
(67,111 posts)hard to believe the voting system is secure. And, it's very bizarre to have power failures and the like coinciding with elections. We need secure voting systems and methodologies which have not kept up with the shenanigans pulled today. Sometimes I think all absentee voting with optical scanning might be a solution with ballots mailed to highly secure centralized voting centers using optical scanning.
Some have suggested all internet based voting. I wonder if that methodology is hardened enough yet to be secure, although that would be my preferred choice. I also wonder if local jurisdictions can be trusted anymore not to rig vote counting.
malaise
(269,054 posts)the power cuts as well.
monmouth4
(9,708 posts)malaise
(269,054 posts)Someone will be heading to prison if they find out those power cuts were deliberate.
B Calm
(28,762 posts)redruddyred
(1,615 posts)there was some mother jones article recently that said most states were gerrymandered in favor of republicans.
I believe some red states voted to raise the wage the other night tho the candidates they elected opposed that. (someone will have to fact check)
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)In WI, minimum wage referenda as well as referenda to expand medical care for the poor (Badgercare) got 60-70% of the vote, even in counties carried by Darth Walker and the Empire Builders.
redruddyred
(1,615 posts)I don't live in WI, but your governor sounds like a class a bastard. who re-elected that f#$#?
I wonder if we shouldn't be investigating election fraud ourselves.
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)Overseas
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blame the other party for causing trouble.
Just like they did with the whole election-- sow discord, publicize the discord-- Congress can't get anything done!-- then sell your party to come Change Washington.
sammy750
(165 posts)The sorry issue is that the court system and the people believe there is voter fraud, when actually it the FRAUD of the GOP. They shouldn't have won this election, but the Democrats caved into the LIES of the GOP. With President Obama creating the best Economy in decades, and the recovery of jobs, the new AFC insurance, and the Democrats lost. Obama has cleaned up the mess by the last G Bush destruction with the same Republicans law makers that created it. WHY? The Democrats are broken, but they had the best news to tell the voters and they were silent, they never refuted the LIES of the GOP for the past 6 years. Obama made a great recovery for the nation but not given any praise. The LIES of the GOP and the Fox News seems to make more sense to the old, senile, who has no knowledge of what in the world is going on.
Senile Seniors voted for the very party that will destroy them. Maybe we need to take away the votes of those over 65.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)In their 80's. 70's. 60's. 50's. And younger.
I know teabagging brownshirts--christians and atheists-- in their 20's. 30's. 40's. 50's. 60's. etcetera.
I know you're mad--so am I, I'm enraged and sick to my stomach--but don't go there.
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)with a dozen or so gray panthers from my Unitarian church. Everyone in that group is far enough left to disgust the likes of Rahm Emanuel. Actually, we think we might have a Republican somewhere in our church membership, but we haven't ferreted them out yet.
Odin2005
(53,521 posts)JustAnotherGen
(31,828 posts)And not all Seniors are senile.
I'll take Robert Redford's vote over Megan McCain's any day of the week.
SheilaT
(23,156 posts)Suggesting all of us over 65 are senile and should have the vote taken away is insulting. The bigger problem is the younger potential voters who don't bother to vote, as well as the ones voting directly against their own self-interest.
Example: every single young person who becomes convinced of the lie that Social Security won't be around for them and that it's too expensive and not worth saving is another duped voter who does not understand how it really works. It's the younger ones who need to educate themselves about how things really work, and vote appropriately.
NBachers
(17,120 posts)BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)City Lights
(25,171 posts)MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)Please remember we have Electronic voting machines that flip votes and lack objective recounting.
ReRe
(10,597 posts)... "The Sociopath Party," because that's what they all are. Accusing someone of doing something wrong, when they themselves are guilty of the accusation themselves, is classic 101 psychopathy/sociopathy. This is not an idle insult. This is a fact.
Botany
(70,516 posts).... but election fraud; machine flips of votes, voter suppression, limiting the #s
of polling places, limiting the # of hours of voting, and dropping people from voter
lists does happen and it is done by republicans.
m.bolden jr.
(13 posts)You may want to read "How to rig an election", a report by Victoria Collier, which was in the November 2012 issue of. Harper,s magazine. One prominently-featured player in the report is the republican sitting these days in the Secretary of defense's chair, Chuck Hagel. Read this, it's in the searchable Harpers online archive and a real eye-opener. Have some antacid handy. Hagel owned a pioneering computer voting-machine firm, and he enjoyed a miraculous come-from-behind victory -- too miraculous, really, in his initial Senate race. Three days before the election, in 1996, it was too close to call, but (again,miraculously) he won by 15 points. Hagel entered the race as an "unknown millionaire". His democratic opponent was the popular governor Ben Nelson. This established the pattern for Hagel's party's new wave of "popularity", apparently.
Odin2005
(53,521 posts)liberal N proud
(60,336 posts)All which are designed to reduce the number of voters.
One thing Tuesday proved to the GOP - fewer voters means they win!
If Democrats want to win elections they need to do two things:
1. stop the voter purges or make sure everyone fills our a new registration prior to each election.
2. get people to vote, stop playing into the hands of the GOP allowing voter apathy to be the norm.