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malaise

(269,054 posts)
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 08:23 AM Nov 2014

ReTHUGs talk about electoral fraud non-stop because

they are the ones who commit it - using voter intimidation, ID cards, RW police stops and bogus lists about who can and cannot vote.

Let the hacks celebrate their victory - I'll pass.

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ReTHUGs talk about electoral fraud non-stop because (Original Post) malaise Nov 2014 OP
Definitely! They try to mask their behavior by pointing fingers at everyone else. Typical RKP5637 Nov 2014 #1
It's the classic inversion of reality trick malaise Nov 2014 #2
For proof of what you said madokie Nov 2014 #4
It was the most expensive mid-term elections in history malaise Nov 2014 #8
With the majority of the money coming from just a few rich jackasses madokie Nov 2014 #10
Classic money laundering scheme, even the weak election laws didn't allow direct payment bigbrother05 Nov 2014 #18
yep. exactly. BlancheSplanchnik Nov 2014 #20
Florida (especially Broward County) is being investigated. Notice how none of these monmouth4 Nov 2014 #3
When one looks at all of the shenanigans, for example, with credit card transactions, it's RKP5637 Nov 2014 #5
Not just the machine glitches malaise Nov 2014 #9
FPL is in Scott's pocket, no doubt about that..n/t monmouth4 Nov 2014 #11
Absoluitely correct malaise Nov 2014 #12
They always have been good at finger pointing. B Calm Nov 2014 #6
oh yeah I think you're onto something there redruddyred Nov 2014 #7
Yes about that min. wage thing. Jackpine Radical Nov 2014 #27
good name redruddyred Nov 2014 #30
It occurred to me it would be a good band name. Jackpine Radical Nov 2014 #31
K&R. That's the Republican way. Cause trouble and then publicize the trouble and then Overseas Nov 2014 #13
Voter fraud scaring is the GOP way. They LIE to win sammy750 Nov 2014 #14
i know strong liberals, disgusted with teabag shit BlancheSplanchnik Nov 2014 #19
Funny--Yesterday morning I was sitting around in my usual Wednesday morning coffee klatsch Jackpine Radical Nov 2014 #29
Don't go to Reddit, 20-something atheist brownshirts everywhere. Odin2005 Nov 2014 #32
Bad Idea JustAnotherGen Nov 2014 #22
Lots of liberal/progressive Democrats are over 65. I'm one of them. SheilaT Nov 2014 #23
I'm 65 - You want to take away this "senile senior's" vote? Now who's advocating election fraud? NBachers Nov 2014 #24
yep. exactly. BlancheSplanchnik Nov 2014 #15
Yup. It's their SOP. nt City Lights Nov 2014 #16
Electronic voting corruption MrMickeysMom Nov 2014 #17
We need to call them... ReRe Nov 2014 #21
voter fraud which doesn't happen ...... people voting twice so you need IDs ..... Botany Nov 2014 #25
For a bit of background m.bolden jr. Nov 2014 #26
Holy shit-fuck! Odin2005 Nov 2014 #33
It is a means for them to legitimize voter purges and voter ID laws liberal N proud Nov 2014 #28

RKP5637

(67,111 posts)
1. Definitely! They try to mask their behavior by pointing fingers at everyone else. Typical
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 08:27 AM
Nov 2014

deflection behavior.

malaise

(269,054 posts)
2. It's the classic inversion of reality trick
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 08:31 AM
Nov 2014

Same with the meme about the liberal media. There is no fucking liberal media - there is the corporate media obsessed with its own profit margins - so divide and rule into blue and red means that they benefit big time with the attack ads.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
4. For proof of what you said
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 08:35 AM
Nov 2014

I'm sure their bottom line will show that the so called 'libral media' took in a ton of cash this last election cycle.
Its one hand washing the other

malaise

(269,054 posts)
8. It was the most expensive mid-term elections in history
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 09:10 AM
Nov 2014

Dividing America is now M$Greedia's cash cow.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
10. With the majority of the money coming from just a few rich jackasses
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 09:12 AM
Nov 2014

who want to push their will off on us whether we want what they're selling or not.

bigbrother05

(5,995 posts)
18. Classic money laundering scheme, even the weak election laws didn't allow direct payment
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 10:03 AM
Nov 2014

By cycling their "free speech" through the superpacs and media centers, they pay off the politicians without letting the money get out of the 0.01% hands. Probably about a dozen folks that are playing the system like checkers. Didn't say chess because that's too nuanced to represent their blatant manipulation.

monmouth4

(9,708 posts)
3. Florida (especially Broward County) is being investigated. Notice how none of these
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 08:32 AM
Nov 2014

"glitches" never happen in northern Florida?

RKP5637

(67,111 posts)
5. When one looks at all of the shenanigans, for example, with credit card transactions, it's
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 08:57 AM
Nov 2014

hard to believe the voting system is secure. And, it's very bizarre to have power failures and the like coinciding with elections. We need secure voting systems and methodologies which have not kept up with the shenanigans pulled today. Sometimes I think all absentee voting with optical scanning might be a solution with ballots mailed to highly secure centralized voting centers using optical scanning.

Some have suggested all internet based voting. I wonder if that methodology is hardened enough yet to be secure, although that would be my preferred choice. I also wonder if local jurisdictions can be trusted anymore not to rig vote counting.

malaise

(269,054 posts)
12. Absoluitely correct
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 09:20 AM
Nov 2014

Someone will be heading to prison if they find out those power cuts were deliberate.

 

redruddyred

(1,615 posts)
7. oh yeah I think you're onto something there
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 09:07 AM
Nov 2014

there was some mother jones article recently that said most states were gerrymandered in favor of republicans.

I believe some red states voted to raise the wage the other night tho the candidates they elected opposed that. (someone will have to fact check)

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
27. Yes about that min. wage thing.
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 10:44 AM
Nov 2014

In WI, minimum wage referenda as well as referenda to expand medical care for the poor (Badgercare) got 60-70% of the vote, even in counties carried by Darth Walker and the Empire Builders.

 

redruddyred

(1,615 posts)
30. good name
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 12:52 PM
Nov 2014

I don't live in WI, but your governor sounds like a class a bastard. who re-elected that f#$#?

I wonder if we shouldn't be investigating election fraud ourselves.

Overseas

(12,121 posts)
13. K&R. That's the Republican way. Cause trouble and then publicize the trouble and then
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 09:53 AM
Nov 2014

Last edited Thu Nov 6, 2014, 10:25 AM - Edit history (1)

blame the other party for causing trouble.

Just like they did with the whole election-- sow discord, publicize the discord-- Congress can't get anything done!-- then sell your party to come Change Washington.

sammy750

(165 posts)
14. Voter fraud scaring is the GOP way. They LIE to win
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 09:55 AM
Nov 2014

The sorry issue is that the court system and the people believe there is voter fraud, when actually it the FRAUD of the GOP. They shouldn't have won this election, but the Democrats caved into the LIES of the GOP. With President Obama creating the best Economy in decades, and the recovery of jobs, the new AFC insurance, and the Democrats lost. Obama has cleaned up the mess by the last G Bush destruction with the same Republicans law makers that created it. WHY? The Democrats are broken, but they had the best news to tell the voters and they were silent, they never refuted the LIES of the GOP for the past 6 years. Obama made a great recovery for the nation but not given any praise. The LIES of the GOP and the Fox News seems to make more sense to the old, senile, who has no knowledge of what in the world is going on.
Senile Seniors voted for the very party that will destroy them. Maybe we need to take away the votes of those over 65.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
19. i know strong liberals, disgusted with teabag shit
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 10:03 AM
Nov 2014

In their 80's. 70's. 60's. 50's. And younger.

I know teabagging brownshirts--christians and atheists-- in their 20's. 30's. 40's. 50's. 60's. etcetera.

I know you're mad--so am I, I'm enraged and sick to my stomach--but don't go there.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
29. Funny--Yesterday morning I was sitting around in my usual Wednesday morning coffee klatsch
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 10:59 AM
Nov 2014

with a dozen or so gray panthers from my Unitarian church. Everyone in that group is far enough left to disgust the likes of Rahm Emanuel. Actually, we think we might have a Republican somewhere in our church membership, but we haven't ferreted them out yet.

JustAnotherGen

(31,828 posts)
22. Bad Idea
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 10:13 AM
Nov 2014
Senile Seniors voted for the very party that will destroy them. Maybe we need to take away the votes of those over 65.

And not all Seniors are senile.


I'll take Robert Redford's vote over Megan McCain's any day of the week.
 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
23. Lots of liberal/progressive Democrats are over 65. I'm one of them.
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 10:32 AM
Nov 2014

Suggesting all of us over 65 are senile and should have the vote taken away is insulting. The bigger problem is the younger potential voters who don't bother to vote, as well as the ones voting directly against their own self-interest.

Example: every single young person who becomes convinced of the lie that Social Security won't be around for them and that it's too expensive and not worth saving is another duped voter who does not understand how it really works. It's the younger ones who need to educate themselves about how things really work, and vote appropriately.

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
17. Electronic voting corruption
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 10:01 AM
Nov 2014

Please remember we have Electronic voting machines that flip votes and lack objective recounting.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
21. We need to call them...
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 10:08 AM
Nov 2014

... "The Sociopath Party," because that's what they all are. Accusing someone of doing something wrong, when they themselves are guilty of the accusation themselves, is classic 101 psychopathy/sociopathy. This is not an idle insult. This is a fact.

Botany

(70,516 posts)
25. voter fraud which doesn't happen ...... people voting twice so you need IDs .....
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 10:40 AM
Nov 2014

.... but election fraud; machine flips of votes, voter suppression, limiting the #s
of polling places, limiting the # of hours of voting, and dropping people from voter
lists does happen and it is done by republicans.

 

m.bolden jr.

(13 posts)
26. For a bit of background
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 10:40 AM
Nov 2014

You may want to read "How to rig an election", a report by Victoria Collier, which was in the November 2012 issue of. Harper,s magazine. One prominently-featured player in the report is the republican sitting these days in the Secretary of defense's chair, Chuck Hagel. Read this, it's in the searchable Harpers online archive and a real eye-opener. Have some antacid handy. Hagel owned a pioneering computer voting-machine firm, and he enjoyed a miraculous come-from-behind victory -- too miraculous, really, in his initial Senate race. Three days before the election, in 1996, it was too close to call, but (again,miraculously) he won by 15 points. Hagel entered the race as an "unknown millionaire". His democratic opponent was the popular governor Ben Nelson. This established the pattern for Hagel's party's new wave of "popularity", apparently.

liberal N proud

(60,336 posts)
28. It is a means for them to legitimize voter purges and voter ID laws
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 10:45 AM
Nov 2014

All which are designed to reduce the number of voters.

One thing Tuesday proved to the GOP - fewer voters means they win!

If Democrats want to win elections they need to do two things:
1. stop the voter purges or make sure everyone fills our a new registration prior to each election.
2. get people to vote, stop playing into the hands of the GOP allowing voter apathy to be the norm.


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