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brooklynite

(94,591 posts)
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 11:45 AM Nov 2014

Did you know that Howard Dean walked on water and healed the sick?

...and introduced the "FIFTY STATE STRATEGY" and won all the races in 2006 and 2008?

Now, don't tell me that history says that the Fifty State Strategy was about State Party building and not about picking candidates nation-wide.

And don't tell me that we didn't run candidates in every district.

And don't tell me that the House and Senate candidates we did run were picked by "corporatists" like Rahm Emannuel (head of DCCC) and Chuck Schumer (head of DSCC).

And don't tell me that many of the candidates who won in red states were Blue Dog Democrats.

I have faith.

And I'm waiting for the second coming.

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Did you know that Howard Dean walked on water and healed the sick? (Original Post) brooklynite Nov 2014 OP
In other words, when will we stop looking for Jesus? Puzzledtraveller Nov 2014 #1
And make sure to ignore the minor player in the 2008 election geek tragedy Nov 2014 #2
Maybe it wasn't perfect hfojvt Nov 2014 #3
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2014 #4
except the presumably had the same lower standards hfojvt Nov 2014 #9
from your fingers to the mopinko Nov 2014 #5
And if you pray hard enough you can make water run uphill. hobbit709 Nov 2014 #6
Take a mental balancing scale, ChairmanAgnostic Nov 2014 #7
I thought Obama turned his back on the Governor from the start. I never had an idea why he did it. ladjf Nov 2014 #8
 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
2. And make sure to ignore the minor player in the 2008 election
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 11:49 AM
Nov 2014

named "Barack Obama."

And the role that Bush played in our electoral success.

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
3. Maybe it wasn't perfect
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 11:58 AM
Nov 2014

but 2006 and 2008 were years when we won.

Maybe a leader can make a difference.

Here's Kansas State before Bill Snyder

"When Snyder was hired at K-State for the first time on November 24, 1988, he inherited a situation that was several times worse than the one he'd found when he arrived in Iowa with Fry. Kansas State had a cumulative record of 299–510 (.370) in 93 years of play, which was easily the most losses of any team in Division I-A at the time."

Here's Kansas State with Bill Snyder

"During the 1998 season, Kansas State posted an undefeated 11–0 regular season and earned its first ever number 1 ranking in the national polls, just ten years after being named the worst program in the country by Sports Illustrated, before finishing 11–2. In the 2003 season the team won the Big 12 championship –- the school's second-ever major conference title. They beat #1 ranked Oklahoma in the 2003 Big 12 Championship Game, 35–7. Leading up to the game, many college football analysts called Oklahoma one of the best teams ever. "

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Snyder

Then he retired, and KSU did not do very well. Then he came back and they did much better.

I like to give credit to the little people, as George Bailey said who "do most of the working and paying and living and dying in this community" but the measured observable fact is that some people in key leadership positions, actually CAN make a huge difference.

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hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
9. except the presumably had the same lower standards
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 12:18 PM
Nov 2014

during his retirement years from 2005 to 2011 when they were not doing squat.

mopinko

(70,120 posts)
5. from your fingers to the
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 12:01 PM
Nov 2014

FUCKING DNC'S EARS!!!!

worked for a candidate whose team won the only 3 BLUE rural counties in wisconsin.
she has $500k v $10m. she got zip from the party.
in fact, i think she got more from du than from the party.
(and mary burke was no fucking help, either.)

ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
7. Take a mental balancing scale,
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 12:03 PM
Nov 2014

much like the one that tall, copper clad babe in New York is holding up.
On one side, mentally picture all of the good things that Howard Dean did, including the energy he created with his efforts.
On the other side, mentally picture the arrogant, close-minded, greedy, and dismissive approach employed by Debbie Wasserman Schultz.

OK, pick up the scales, cuz they kinda fell down on the Dean side. Try comparing them again. Oops. Same result.

When you compare the substance of Dean with the ineffective, sometimes counter-productive moves by DWS, it is pretty clear that we were not well served by the appointed and elected leaders of the party. Not even close.

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