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The object isn't to CONVINCE more people to vote (for whatever) (Original Post) whatchamacallit Nov 2014 OP
Which is why I think the nightmare that occurred this week is a great opportunity for Bernie randys1 Nov 2014 #1
I can get behind that whatchamacallit Nov 2014 #2
"Not as bad" isn't all that inspiring. Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2014 #3
Exactly. whatchamacallit Nov 2014 #4
K&R. That's the planned Third Way noise for today. woo me with science Nov 2014 #5
I think that's it whatchamacallit Nov 2014 #6
That is why they are called 'leaders', they lead the people to the voting booth. Rex Nov 2014 #7
I don't see it as "either/or" as much as "both/and" Blue_Tires Nov 2014 #8
As many have pointed out in the wake of the elections whatchamacallit Nov 2014 #9

randys1

(16,286 posts)
1. Which is why I think the nightmare that occurred this week is a great opportunity for Bernie
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 02:10 PM
Nov 2014

Sanders to start to talk about what this country REALLY NEEDS

and he might just find that most of us agree with him, and he might actually be able to become prez

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
5. K&R. That's the planned Third Way noise for today.
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 02:58 PM
Nov 2014

People have learned that Red versus Blue is a con game. The relevant issue isn't Red versus Blue or lazy citizens. The relevant issue is predatory corporate policies. It's a cynical corporate con game to blame citizens for not wanting to line up to drink poison.

No matter which party is elected, we keep getting the same overall direction of austerity, TPP, TISA, mass surveillance, "Kill Lists," indefinite detention, secret laws, secret courts, corporate education, drilling, fracking, new wars in Syria and Iraq, a TRILLION dollar ramping up of nuclear weapons when our president is signing ANOTHER round of food stamp cuts and a farm bill based on "pension smoothing." Not a single major banker in the mortgage collapse/theft held accountable, journalists and whistleblowers under assault, mass propaganda machines...It goes on and on and on.

People don't want to go in this direction. Seventy-six percent of them say we are going in the wrong direction. So they keep trying to switch parties, or trash it all and start over, but they keep getting the same direction anyway.

When people have two terrible options, they tend to lurch back and forth between them in protest. Or give up.

Time to stop pretending that the problem is insufficient bullying of people to vote for pols who don't represent them. We have to fix a corrupt system so that they actually have something to vote for.


I liked this OP:

Ignore the 3rd Way shills with extreme prejudice
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025767160




 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
7. That is why they are called 'leaders', they lead the people to the voting booth.
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 04:23 PM
Nov 2014

If they are lackluster, then people feel apathetic. One reason the GOP wins, is because they appeal to emotions and not reason.

whatchamacallit

(15,558 posts)
9. As many have pointed out in the wake of the elections
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 04:28 PM
Nov 2014

You have to give people something to vote for. The not-as-bad team isn't enough.

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