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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI demand Democratic obstructionism in the next Congress.
Exactly what the GOP did for the last 6 years?
That needs to be us now.
You know all their legislation is going to have poison pills and bullshit deal-breakers inserted.
We need to filibuster every fucking thing the GOP puts down as a bill.
Fuck them.
The GOP gets nothing.
I don't even want any bills showing up on the President's desk for a veto.
They promised to break the gridlock because they caused it.
Fuck them.
Time to lock up the grid and make them break their promise.
Fuckers.
villager
(26,001 posts)...could be prevailed upon to filibuster the most odious bills as they slither through the chamber...
TeamPooka
(24,229 posts)L0oniX
(31,493 posts)muntrv
(14,505 posts)AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)L0oniX
(31,493 posts)TeamPooka
(24,229 posts)Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)if it's something we need, it might be better to support something that helps even if not perfect..
Might be good to couch the message as, "unlike the Republicans who blocked needed legislation for last 6 years,..........."
TeamPooka
(24,229 posts)on the way based on what they campaigned on.
Jim__
(14,077 posts)grahamhgreen
(15,741 posts)grahamhgreen
(15,741 posts)TeamPooka
(24,229 posts)Progressive dog
(6,904 posts)Democrats shut down government good.
This was sarcasm, I hope your OP was too.
TeamPooka
(24,229 posts)Progressive dog
(6,904 posts)At least one party has to not act like children.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Blocking bad legislation is acting childish, or do you need to re-qualify your statement a wee bit more?
Progressive dog
(6,904 posts)Children can't do nearly the amount of harm that this could.
I don't need to qualify that at all.
TeamPooka
(24,229 posts)Progressive dog
(6,904 posts)and shut down the government and default on the debt, to stop the Republicans from cheating.
Maedhros
(10,007 posts)I think the Democrats like their submissive relationship to the Republicans. Absolves them of responsibility for producing results.
Skittles
(153,169 posts)it is doubtful they're gonna start
Bettie
(16,110 posts)but we won't.
We'll see congresscritters rushing to the Right, to lick the teabaggers' boots.
We'll see senators begging for the TPP, Keystone XL, and an end to Social Security and Medicaid as we know them.
There might be a few hold outs, but for the most part, we appear to have elected a spineless group who are only active when they think it might buy them a few more years in the seats that make them money.
Viva_Daddy
(785 posts)Yes, filibuster or block really bad bills or hot political topics but let the President veto the rest of the bad bills. He's a "lame duck" who doesn't have to worry about running for office again.
Filibusters should also be "traditional". Stand up on the floor and talk.
I predict that Boehner and McConnell will have enough problems just trying to corral their caucuses.
SomethingFishy
(4,876 posts)Throw it in their faces.
I see lots of people claiming we should, as usual "take the high ground". Fuck that. Stick it to these assholes every fucking way possible. Show a goddamn spine.
TeamPooka
(24,229 posts)Cleita
(75,480 posts)The corporate end game is the same no matter which party is in charge. Washington is horribly corrupt. There are some sincere and honest legislators but they are outnumbered by puppet theater on both sides of the aisle.
I've come to the conclusion that we need to concentrate on making our local and state elected officials do the right thing. Eventually we might be able to clean Washington up.
KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)own fucking currency.
Louisiana1976
(3,962 posts)succeed Obama should veto everything.
ooglymoogly
(9,502 posts)Do you believe our intrepid MINORITY leader who has been holding down the fort with milktoast and wet noodle bromides; will get a backbone and leave his 'don't blame me, its not my fault' corner, to stand and fight; or that he will not run, shuddering in his boots, at the first threat of suspending the 60 vote "rule"; as he did before; or that the many DINO's or DWH,s , (a self coined acronym for Democrats without honer), will bravely come to the fight on the side of the Democrats or democracy, or any fairness at all for that matter.
Forgetting the new way "democrats", The only democratic stallworts to hold down the fort and our democratic honor and this hope, that we all have in varying degrees, is Warren, Sanders, Brown, Whitehouse and 5 or six others and in fair weather just a small few more, keeping the democrats relevant; or that these are any match for the zeolotry that has taken over our government by outright fraud, cheating, and bald faced lies.
Other than huge landslides in 16, large enough to inundate and overtake the fraud; democracy is over and elections have become nothing more than a show to rake in the billions for television and internet conglomerates who along with the rest of the top 2%, hammer to suit to whatever is wanted in these "elections".
blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)We will lose Independents, and left-of-Center voters after 2 years of Obama giveaways to the lunatic brigade in the GOP. That's what happens when you have a former Reagan Republican/"New Democrat" as the Party leader. Look at how Crist lost. That (D) after the name is nothing more than political expediency.
LiberalEsto
(22,845 posts)They are gutless, as they have proved time and again.
Phlem
(6,323 posts)shaking hands with them.
jalan48
(13,870 posts)It won't happen because half the Democrats are really Republicans.
TeamPooka
(24,229 posts)Xyzse
(8,217 posts)To Republicans, Democrats are cowardly communists who would rather spend on their dime. They have effectively simplified Democrat = Enemy, less than human and nothing else.
The nuance between a Democrat to a Republican however when it comes to everyone else is much more blurred.
To the general Independent or even a Millenial, they don't really see much of a difference since what they see is Democrats taking the Republican position and even dismissing their own accomplishments and saying it is flawed, rather than celebrating whatever success they have and promoting it.
A Republican passing something crazy, they would swear up and down that it is the second coming while it creates havoc on everyone else other than the rich.
They really need to be able to show the difference. During the Bush era, it was easy to spot the difference... It is much harder right now.
TeamPooka
(24,229 posts)madokie
(51,076 posts)fuck the pukes and the lies they rode in on
libtodeath
(2,888 posts)more safety net programs.
Not one fucking bill passes without making repugs vote AGAINST their own voters interests.
Cha
(297,299 posts)the obviously destructive bills that would be coming from Koch's roaches?
TeamPooka
(24,229 posts)Cha
(297,299 posts)Paladin
(28,264 posts)Old Nick
(468 posts)Rec
Dirty Socialist
(3,252 posts)But all I hear from the M$M is the GOP led Hose passed a bunch of job creating bills (a lie, they weren't job creators) and the Democrats didn't vote on them. It doesn't matter what the Dems do, the perception will be the Dems won't work with the Repuglicans.
Come to think of it, screw 'em. Filibuster. The Dems will be blamed for everything anyway.