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Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 06:39 PM Nov 2014

The Republican takeover of the Senate hurts Elizabeth Warren's Presidential chances

Now Dems in the Senate have virtually no voice until January 2017 at the earliest. All Senate committees will be lead by Republicans. Warren and her fellow Dems in the Senate are all powerless lame ducks until 2017.

Warren has nothing to work with.

None of her initiatives will even make it out of committee. It's a shame because her student loan proposal would have helped millions of Americans drowning in student debt.

She has so many good ideas and none will even see the light of day.

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The Republican takeover of the Senate hurts Elizabeth Warren's Presidential chances (Original Post) Cali_Democrat Nov 2014 OP
Oh, f/ck. blkmusclmachine Nov 2014 #1
She can publicize what she proposes. Most campaign blather never sees the light of day, either. djean111 Nov 2014 #2
Yes the cons will try and drown not just students by all non rich Americans in endless debt randys1 Nov 2014 #3
She can keep going on TV. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2014 #4
News shows rarely allow Democrats on TV Cali_Democrat Nov 2014 #9
If you're talking about shows like Meet the Chuck, I'd hardly call those 'news'. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2014 #10
Perhaps the two-thirds of eligible voters will realize the need of their votes. Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #5
But, but, but they "sent a message" by not voting!1 arcane1 Nov 2014 #11
But, but, but the GOP heard the messahe and declared they must be right Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #14
Exactly. Sending messages to the losing candidate isn't exactly helpful arcane1 Nov 2014 #18
LOL. If anything , after the next two years mmonk Nov 2014 #6
Oh, yea, with voting turnout like we had in 2014 the election will be won by Ted Cruz Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #16
Well crap! obliviously Nov 2014 #7
If I Were Her I Would Declare Myself A 2016 Dem Presidential Candidate ASAP..... global1 Nov 2014 #8
Well that would be another reason besides the Environment and Supreme Court that those Cha Nov 2014 #12
I don't think Sen Warren has ever planned to run for President in 2016. Perhaps you disagree? Douglas Carpenter Nov 2014 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author Algernon Moncrieff Nov 2014 #15
Who knows, maybe her many long years as a Republican gives her some connections and methods Bluenorthwest Nov 2014 #17
Reality check, she doesn't have any chance of becoming President anyway Lurks Often Nov 2014 #19
Poe's law is in effect on this post. nt MannyGoldstein Nov 2014 #20
 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
2. She can publicize what she proposes. Most campaign blather never sees the light of day, either.
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 06:42 PM
Nov 2014

Rhetoric is not the same as actually trying to get a bill into/out of committee.
So she's good. IMO.

randys1

(16,286 posts)
3. Yes the cons will try and drown not just students by all non rich Americans in endless debt
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 06:46 PM
Nov 2014

But I think the takeover of the Senate by certifiable insane batshit moron assholes like Garnder and Ernst is actually a good thing, short term, for Sanders and Warren.

Will give them an opportunity to REACT to the insane garbage these pukes are about to serve up.

They may get on Sunday morning shows now, finally, etc.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
4. She can keep going on TV.
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 06:46 PM
Nov 2014

And saying, 'I sponsored/wrote X, that would do Y for Z, but Republicans keep preventing it from getting to a vote.'

So I think she's still good too. We're the ones who won't reap the benefits of her ideas, at least until we flip both the House and Senate.

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
9. News shows rarely allow Democrats on TV
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 06:59 PM
Nov 2014

They prefer Senators like McCain and Lindsey Graham.

You know this.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
10. If you're talking about shows like Meet the Chuck, I'd hardly call those 'news'.
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 07:02 PM
Nov 2014

Warren is photogenic, intelligent, and ratings gold. She'll find places to get the message out.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
5. Perhaps the two-thirds of eligible voters will realize the need of their votes.
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 06:48 PM
Nov 2014

Those who refuse to vote for whatever reason creates problems like this, it also erodes our opportunity to take control of state houses by 2020 census in order to reverse the gerrymandering the GOP dumps on us. Elections has consequences, ones which we do like. We have one third of the population making choices for others.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
14. But, but, but the GOP heard the messahe and declared they must be right
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 07:13 PM
Nov 2014

And continuing in their losing platform.

global1

(25,253 posts)
8. If I Were Her I Would Declare Myself A 2016 Dem Presidential Candidate ASAP.....
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 06:56 PM
Nov 2014

and you know that she will get all sorts of media coverage - so she could put herself in a spot light over the next two years. In the Senate she could keep proposing and pushing for progressive legislation like the student loan bill and dare the Rethugs to shoot them down. Everytime they do she has the platform to show the American Public which Party has the American People's back and which one is just watching out for the top 1%, the banksters and the corporations.

For the next two years the Dems need to go on the offensive and continually put the Rethugs in a position to defend their undefendible stances.

Cha

(297,304 posts)
12. Well that would be another reason besides the Environment and Supreme Court that those
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 07:03 PM
Nov 2014

"young people" we're hearing about who "didn't vote because they wasn't any reason to..".. Should have Thought it Fucking Through. Not thinking about Elizabeth Warren whom so many want for President as opposed to say.. Hillary.

But, we'll see what happens.. I ain't giving up yet.. or EVER!

Welcome back Cali!

Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
13. I don't think Sen Warren has ever planned to run for President in 2016. Perhaps you disagree?
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 07:06 PM
Nov 2014

Maybe it's a bit naïve on my part but I took her at her word that she absolutely will not run for President in 2016 and she is urging Hillary Clinton to run. But, maybe you have inside knowledge to the contrary?

Response to Cali_Democrat (Original post)

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
17. Who knows, maybe her many long years as a Republican gives her some connections and methods
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 07:16 PM
Nov 2014

not instantly associated with her current public image. She was a Republican into her 40's, voting for Reagan and Bush and all of that stuff. So if nothing else she should know how to speak their language and perhaps even trip their wires. But hell, I know many of the same people I knew in 94 and expect to work with many of them again. Why should she be different?

 

Lurks Often

(5,455 posts)
19. Reality check, she doesn't have any chance of becoming President anyway
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 07:42 PM
Nov 2014

She has repeatedly stated that she is not running. And while I am sure you disagree, in a general election she would be defeated, probably by a very wide margin.

Besides, historical trends suggest that the next several Presidents will probably be a governor and their vice-presidential choice.

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