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blm

(113,065 posts)
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 07:37 PM Nov 2014

Check out the 2014 candidates who won campaigning off Obama's good economic policies....

they were all the Republican governors taking personal credit for the national economic growth under Obama that helped their state's recovery.

And they all won.

They lied about Obama and took all the credit themselves.

The corporate media let them.

So did most of the Democratic candidates.

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gmb92

(57 posts)
1. And their states usually lagged national economic improvement
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 08:02 PM
Nov 2014

The unemployment rate dropped 3% since Jan. 2011 nationally, but 2% in Wisconsin, where Scott Walker won. Yet Walker gets rewarded for a more slowly improving economy and most think the national economy is not improving.

Definitely a media problem. Every big increase in jobs has heavy caveats. The big drops in the trillion+ deficit Obama was handed is not correctly attributed to improving revenues from a better economy and the tax hike on the rich that went into effect 2013. Yet when the budget deficit falls in a red state (also a result of an improving national economy), it is always suggested to be due to Republican austerity measures.

Most Americans even think the budget deficit is increasing.

doc03

(35,346 posts)
3. Exactly, that's how Gov. Kasich did it in Ohio. Kasich took credit
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 08:28 PM
Nov 2014

for the improving economy mostly due to the auto bailout that all Republicans were against. He also took credit for reducing the deficit a direct result of the Obama recovery. On top off that he also passed the deficits to the local cities and counties and a side benefit from that local office holders were voted out because they failed to maintain the roads and other infrastructure. Meanwhile the f---ing Democratic challenger was hiding from Obama's record. As I watched this happen I couldn't believe it. Then today I heard a Democrat
on MSNBC that said Kasich was one to watch because of how he turned Ohio around and nobody called him on the bullshit.

blm

(113,065 posts)
4. EXACTLY - And THAT is the purpose of my post.
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 08:35 PM
Nov 2014

I remember how Bush claimed during the 2000 campaign he boosted Texas' economy - taking credit for Clinton's national growth economy.

Media let them all do it then, too. Media is even worse now.

Cha

(297,314 posts)
5. and, of course their little constituents ate it up with shovel.
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 08:38 PM
Nov 2014

thanks for that, blm.

Sorry about NC.

blm

(113,065 posts)
7. Yep - corpmedia then uses the lies repeatedly as the premise to corner Dem candidates
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 08:44 PM
Nov 2014

into caving. That is the other problem - get a candidate on the trail and they are tired and always thinking that the corpmedia has some advance knowledge that they do not have. I think they should learn to ask the media questioner what source they are using to base their question?

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
9. Countering well-crafted lies is always hard
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 08:56 PM
Nov 2014

--and people sometimes don't do a good job of rebuttal when they're cornered by the media.

Our side for the most part doesn't resort to outright lying. That's where they have a serious disadvantage. The media used to seek out and corroborate the truth.

Not any more.

blm

(113,065 posts)
12. That's true - fumbling to articulate an answer based in truth. Much easier to lie
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 09:11 PM
Nov 2014

with impunity like Republicans, who do it so easily - like breathing to them. Then they will even double-down on their lies.

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
10. I don't buy that for Kansas
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 09:06 PM
Nov 2014

that their opponent let them.

As for the corporate media. Well the local news hardly ever talks about anything either political or economic.

blm

(113,065 posts)
11. Nope - but national media made sure to provide cover for Brownback with
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 09:09 PM
Nov 2014

their constant pointing the finger of blame at Obama.

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
13. but Obama never has been
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 11:07 AM
Nov 2014

and never will be popular in Kansas. Not for more than 40% of the voters. I don't think the national media can change that much one way or the other.

blm

(113,065 posts)
14. You are welcome to your view - I stated mine.
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 11:31 AM
Nov 2014

BTW - I didn't claim that EVERY Democratic candidate didn't fight on the economy - I clearly said MOST did. Your interpretation of the word 'most' belongs to you, of course, and you are welcome to it.

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
15. What's with the hostility?
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 11:54 AM
Nov 2014

BTW - I didn't claim that your OP was ALL wrong. I said it was wrong for one race that I know something about - Kansas.

I really would welcome people with knowledge of their area. What the hell, for example, happened in Illinois where the Democratic incumbent couldn't win? Is Obama unpopular in Illinois? Or was it just the promise of free money to those above the median income?

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