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lindysalsagal

(20,692 posts)
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 08:26 PM Nov 2014

Even on DU, everything is always Obama's fault

We accept the other side's irrational constructs even when we argue against them.

Turnout was white, male, and old, because it always is in off years.

People are conservative because of brain wiring. That much is proven all the time.

So, you can blame Obama for the low dem turnout, but honestly, most people just aren't tuned in to politics. I believe Bush was such an historical idiot, it motivated people to turnout. There was nothing pulling people to the polls this time. Period.

I think it boils down to, "They're all crooks. I'm staying home." It's a protest non-vote for both sides.

More dem cheer-leading wouldn't have changed anything.

He's just one man. The rest is up to us, and most people can't be bothered. They'll miss an email, or an episode of Big Brother.

We get the government we deserve.

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Even on DU, everything is always Obama's fault (Original Post) lindysalsagal Nov 2014 OP
"People are conservative because of brain wiring. That much is proven all the time." Logical Nov 2014 #1
A voting booth with hand sanitizer will consistently have more conservative votes cast Recursion Nov 2014 #26
I hear that these asshat candidates wouldnt let Obama campaign for them randys1 Nov 2014 #2
no, they are also blaming it on Hillary and Bill Clinton, along with the view if only Democrats still_one Nov 2014 #3
So they didn't do it this time. Everyone ran from Obama. Did this work? Phlem Nov 2014 #6
Not everyone. In KY it would not have mattered still_one Nov 2014 #7
i know. i love politics. cannot even discuss it on democraticunderground. thanks obama. seabeyond Nov 2014 #4
And it's usually Andy823 Nov 2014 #14
I would say that Obama pissed off way more people than he inspired to vote. badtoworse Nov 2014 #5
I just wish he was a fighter. I thought he was when he 1st ran for office Peregrine Took Nov 2014 #8
They've been bating him from the beginning, to bring out the angry black man lindysalsagal Nov 2014 #9
Who cares what they say? RobertEarl Nov 2014 #13
The whole party sucks? What is this, 7th grade lunch? lindysalsagal Nov 2014 #19
Uh, yeah, it sucks RobertEarl Nov 2014 #21
If it is, I'm not sitting at the table with him. Major Hogwash Nov 2014 #37
Seriously. How did Democrats go from THIS... SMC22307 Nov 2014 #24
They accused him of being a Muslim terrorist, secretly on the down-low. SMC22307 Nov 2014 #22
I also thought he'd be more of a hell-raiser. LuvNewcastle Nov 2014 #15
Well said. lindysalsagal Nov 2014 #18
I would admit that he totally fooled me.... Logical Nov 2014 #32
False. GeorgeGist Nov 2014 #10
I wouldnt care so much since it doesnt really matter what some people think or say.. DCBob Nov 2014 #11
Mid terms don't tend to bring out alot of voters. Texasgal Nov 2014 #12
What do you mean "even on DU"? ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #16
+ 1 nt steve2470 Nov 2014 #28
+1 uponit7771 Nov 2014 #34
- - - - - - > jillan Nov 2014 #17
That made me laugh. betsuni Nov 2014 #27
Somebody posted that on facebook on a political thread that had nothing to do with Obama jillan Nov 2014 #30
LOL, lindysalsagal.. Especially on DU everything is Always the President's Fault.. the term Cha Nov 2014 #20
Conversely: ODS -- believing Obama is culpable for nothing. SMC22307 Nov 2014 #23
ODS.. "President Obama is glad the republicon's won..it's what he wanted all along".. Ah NO.. Cha Nov 2014 #36
Not to me Old Nick Nov 2014 #25
I thought "brain" was gong to be followed by "washing." betsuni Nov 2014 #29
Obama wasn't on the ticket. onecaliberal Nov 2014 #31
This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Nov 2014 #33
Sigh... just keep blaming the black guy... uponit7771 Nov 2014 #35
No kidding!!! The short-term memories for the average DUer must be a week! Major Hogwash Nov 2014 #38
This thread is Obama's fault. WinkyDink Nov 2014 #39
 

Logical

(22,457 posts)
1. "People are conservative because of brain wiring. That much is proven all the time."
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 08:28 PM
Nov 2014

Is this a proven thing?

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
26. A voting booth with hand sanitizer will consistently have more conservative votes cast
Sun Nov 9, 2014, 12:36 AM
Nov 2014

than the voting booth next to it without hand sanitizer. Even if voters don't get to choose which booth they go to.

That's pretty much got to be brain wiring.

randys1

(16,286 posts)
2. I hear that these asshat candidates wouldnt let Obama campaign for them
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 08:30 PM
Nov 2014

We complain all the time about the complete morons the GOP runs but some of our candidates are a waste of space

still_one

(92,219 posts)
3. no, they are also blaming it on Hillary and Bill Clinton, along with the view if only Democrats
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 08:32 PM
Nov 2014

would express liberal views in conservative red states we would win

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
4. i know. i love politics. cannot even discuss it on democraticunderground. thanks obama.
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 08:33 PM
Nov 2014

that is what boys say for everything.

no more milk? thanks obama.

du did that with kerry too, though. now that i think about it.

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
14. And it's usually
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 09:18 PM
Nov 2014

The same bunch of bashers. There are a few "ring leaders" who encourage it, and the same bunch the always jump in on any thread that bashes the president, or the whole party, although I do see a whole new crop of bashers showing up lately.

 

badtoworse

(5,957 posts)
5. I would say that Obama pissed off way more people than he inspired to vote.
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 08:37 PM
Nov 2014

ETA: What do youbthink the pissed off people did?

Peregrine Took

(7,415 posts)
8. I just wish he was a fighter. I thought he was when he 1st ran for office
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 08:54 PM
Nov 2014

but, time after time, he lets the rethugs speak so disrespectfully about him and he just ignores them and still longs for bipartisanship. I just don't think that's the way a normal person would react.

lindysalsagal

(20,692 posts)
9. They've been bating him from the beginning, to bring out the angry black man
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 09:01 PM
Nov 2014

If he took the bait and yelled and screamed and played as dirty as they do, they'd just portray him as that angry black man you can't trust.

He's fought when he thought it mattered, and bargained when he had to. That's his job.

There's already enough kindergarten behavior in D.C. More wouldn't help. Acting like a petulant George Bush would not work and would not help.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
13. Who cares what they say?
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 09:11 PM
Nov 2014

I am of the opinion that Obama should have got mad and creatively smashed the republicans.

I miss the Obama of 2008, so do most of the non-voters.

Anyway, I see you playing right into "It's all about Obama" when the truth is the party sucks. Even here on DU we see people whining and those trolls are not ever going to influence the party to speak more Liberally and fight back against the dirty right-wingers.

lindysalsagal

(20,692 posts)
19. The whole party sucks? What is this, 7th grade lunch?
Sat Nov 8, 2014, 10:07 PM
Nov 2014

So, how, exactly was the POTUS supposed to smash anyone?

Here in the land of reality, one man can only do what his job allows.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
21. Uh, yeah, it sucks
Sat Nov 8, 2014, 11:41 PM
Nov 2014

We just blew an election because the party sucks.

As for Obama - one example- his opponents openly described that they had one goal: One term.

He should have laughed in their faces for that display of wanton destruction of what the people voted for.

Next question.

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
37. If it is, I'm not sitting at the table with him.
Sun Nov 9, 2014, 07:44 AM
Nov 2014

I was so popular in the 7th grade, that the other boys wanted to sit at the table I was sitting at to eat my lunch!!
Of course, that all changed by the 9th grade after they found out that I was the son of Democrats.

Yet, back here on Earth, you are right, one man can only do so much.
But, some of these people, well, to be honest, a lot of them, think that Obama has a wand that he can simply wave and everything will go their way.






SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
24. Seriously. How did Democrats go from THIS...
Sat Nov 8, 2014, 11:47 PM
Nov 2014


to where we are now? 2015 Congress controlled by Republicans and how many states now controlled by Republicans?

It's mind-boggling.

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
22. They accused him of being a Muslim terrorist, secretly on the down-low.
Sat Nov 8, 2014, 11:41 PM
Nov 2014

Seriously, who gives a shit that they'd call him an "angry black man"? Dems need to stop worrying what Republicans think. Politics IS dirty, and Dems need to start playing that game again.

And no one expected him to yell and scream or act petulant, why in the world would you suggest that?

LuvNewcastle

(16,847 posts)
15. I also thought he'd be more of a hell-raiser.
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 09:28 PM
Nov 2014

I don't blame him for the way things are in Washington right now. Ultimately, it's the American people and our fucked-up media who are responsible for this mess. I think Obama's been too passive through all of it, but I'm not so sure how much things would have changed if his personality had been more confrontational. The media would have painted him as a lunatic and the Fox zombies would have sucked it all up and repeated it over and over again.

We've got a very sick country on our hands, and Obama seems like the cautious doctor who is afraid of doing harm to his patient. He's kept our vital signs more or less stable, but he's afraid we'll die if he removes the cancer that's growing within us. Besides, he can't do it by himself. He must have assistants to help him in such a serious operation. I have no idea what our prognosis is. I think the shit is really going to hit the fan in the next couple of years leading up to the election. The pressure has been building for too long now. Something has got to give.

 

Logical

(22,457 posts)
32. I would admit that he totally fooled me....
Sun Nov 9, 2014, 01:19 AM
Nov 2014

I thought he would start kicking Republican ass immediately. Calling them out for what they were. Walking through the halls of Congress talking the Democrats That didn't want to vote for him on bills and convince them they should. I really thought he would bring change to Washington and he didn't. I feel a little stupid now for falling for the whole plan. He was way too cooperative with Republicans and trying to work with them even after they were ridiculing him.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
11. I wouldnt care so much since it doesnt really matter what some people think or say..
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 09:02 PM
Nov 2014

except that it does get tiresome from people whom I think should know better.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
30. Somebody posted that on facebook on a political thread that had nothing to do with Obama
Sun Nov 9, 2014, 12:47 AM
Nov 2014

Teabaggers and Dems were going back and forth on something - pre-election.

I laughed so hard when I saw that, I had to save it. Perfect expression

Cha

(297,323 posts)
20. LOL, lindysalsagal.. Especially on DU everything is Always the President's Fault.. the term
Sat Nov 8, 2014, 10:08 PM
Nov 2014

ODS doesn't apply for nothin'.

Cha

(297,323 posts)
36. ODS.. "President Obama is glad the republicon's won..it's what he wanted all along".. Ah NO..
Sun Nov 9, 2014, 06:49 AM
Nov 2014

That's just egregiously stupid.. and to quote geek tragedy here because he says it so well..

"Idiotic ODS drivel. No, Obama did not want those whose only goal is to derail his presidency

to control both houses of Congress.

He did not want Mitch McConnell having absolute power over each and every appointment of federal judges.

He does not want more votes on repealing the ACA.

He does not want Senate hearings on Benghazi."


http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5780337

And, Yay.. we don't have to deal with that in the BOG!

geek http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5780337

Yeah, Obama isn't perfect by a long shot but I'm glad he's the President and I have his back.. especially from all the bullshite flyin' around here.

onecaliberal

(32,864 posts)
31. Obama wasn't on the ticket.
Sun Nov 9, 2014, 12:51 AM
Nov 2014

It's not his fault the corporate dems gave people nothing to vote for. It's not his fault that republicans suppressed the vote.
I voted, and I will never condone sitting out an election but a lot of people felt abandoned by the dems.

Response to lindysalsagal (Original post)

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
35. Sigh... just keep blaming the black guy...
Sun Nov 9, 2014, 03:37 AM
Nov 2014

For not fixing this guys 2 generations of screw ups in 5 years

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But I'm sure we all know that... just want to blame Obama

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
38. No kidding!!! The short-term memories for the average DUer must be a week!
Sun Nov 9, 2014, 07:49 AM
Nov 2014

Like they can't remember who invaded Iraq, or was the President when Hurricane Katrina hit the Gulf Coast.
Unbelievable!!!

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