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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsEven on DU, everything is always Obama's fault
We accept the other side's irrational constructs even when we argue against them.
Turnout was white, male, and old, because it always is in off years.
People are conservative because of brain wiring. That much is proven all the time.
So, you can blame Obama for the low dem turnout, but honestly, most people just aren't tuned in to politics. I believe Bush was such an historical idiot, it motivated people to turnout. There was nothing pulling people to the polls this time. Period.
I think it boils down to, "They're all crooks. I'm staying home." It's a protest non-vote for both sides.
More dem cheer-leading wouldn't have changed anything.
He's just one man. The rest is up to us, and most people can't be bothered. They'll miss an email, or an episode of Big Brother.
We get the government we deserve.
Logical
(22,457 posts)Is this a proven thing?
Recursion
(56,582 posts)than the voting booth next to it without hand sanitizer. Even if voters don't get to choose which booth they go to.
That's pretty much got to be brain wiring.
randys1
(16,286 posts)We complain all the time about the complete morons the GOP runs but some of our candidates are a waste of space
still_one
(92,219 posts)would express liberal views in conservative red states we would win
Phlem
(6,323 posts)I'm guessing not.
still_one
(92,219 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)that is what boys say for everything.
no more milk? thanks obama.
du did that with kerry too, though. now that i think about it.
Andy823
(11,495 posts)The same bunch of bashers. There are a few "ring leaders" who encourage it, and the same bunch the always jump in on any thread that bashes the president, or the whole party, although I do see a whole new crop of bashers showing up lately.
badtoworse
(5,957 posts)ETA: What do youbthink the pissed off people did?
Peregrine Took
(7,415 posts)but, time after time, he lets the rethugs speak so disrespectfully about him and he just ignores them and still longs for bipartisanship. I just don't think that's the way a normal person would react.
lindysalsagal
(20,692 posts)If he took the bait and yelled and screamed and played as dirty as they do, they'd just portray him as that angry black man you can't trust.
He's fought when he thought it mattered, and bargained when he had to. That's his job.
There's already enough kindergarten behavior in D.C. More wouldn't help. Acting like a petulant George Bush would not work and would not help.
RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)I am of the opinion that Obama should have got mad and creatively smashed the republicans.
I miss the Obama of 2008, so do most of the non-voters.
Anyway, I see you playing right into "It's all about Obama" when the truth is the party sucks. Even here on DU we see people whining and those trolls are not ever going to influence the party to speak more Liberally and fight back against the dirty right-wingers.
lindysalsagal
(20,692 posts)So, how, exactly was the POTUS supposed to smash anyone?
Here in the land of reality, one man can only do what his job allows.
RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)We just blew an election because the party sucks.
As for Obama - one example- his opponents openly described that they had one goal: One term.
He should have laughed in their faces for that display of wanton destruction of what the people voted for.
Next question.
Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts)I was so popular in the 7th grade, that the other boys wanted to sit at the table I was sitting at to eat my lunch!!
Of course, that all changed by the 9th grade after they found out that I was the son of Democrats.
Yet, back here on Earth, you are right, one man can only do so much.
But, some of these people, well, to be honest, a lot of them, think that Obama has a wand that he can simply wave and everything will go their way.
SMC22307
(8,090 posts)to where we are now? 2015 Congress controlled by Republicans and how many states now controlled by Republicans?
It's mind-boggling.
SMC22307
(8,090 posts)Seriously, who gives a shit that they'd call him an "angry black man"? Dems need to stop worrying what Republicans think. Politics IS dirty, and Dems need to start playing that game again.
And no one expected him to yell and scream or act petulant, why in the world would you suggest that?
LuvNewcastle
(16,847 posts)I don't blame him for the way things are in Washington right now. Ultimately, it's the American people and our fucked-up media who are responsible for this mess. I think Obama's been too passive through all of it, but I'm not so sure how much things would have changed if his personality had been more confrontational. The media would have painted him as a lunatic and the Fox zombies would have sucked it all up and repeated it over and over again.
We've got a very sick country on our hands, and Obama seems like the cautious doctor who is afraid of doing harm to his patient. He's kept our vital signs more or less stable, but he's afraid we'll die if he removes the cancer that's growing within us. Besides, he can't do it by himself. He must have assistants to help him in such a serious operation. I have no idea what our prognosis is. I think the shit is really going to hit the fan in the next couple of years leading up to the election. The pressure has been building for too long now. Something has got to give.
lindysalsagal
(20,692 posts)Logical
(22,457 posts)I thought he would start kicking Republican ass immediately. Calling them out for what they were. Walking through the halls of Congress talking the Democrats That didn't want to vote for him on bills and convince them they should. I really thought he would bring change to Washington and he didn't. I feel a little stupid now for falling for the whole plan. He was way too cooperative with Republicans and trying to work with them even after they were ridiculing him.
GeorgeGist
(25,321 posts)Trash.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)except that it does get tiresome from people whom I think should know better.
Texasgal
(17,045 posts)Damn shame if you ask me.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)DU is celebrated for it's (President) Obama hate.
steve2470
(37,457 posts)uponit7771
(90,347 posts)jillan
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betsuni
(25,539 posts)jillan
(39,451 posts)Teabaggers and Dems were going back and forth on something - pre-election.
I laughed so hard when I saw that, I had to save it. Perfect expression
Cha
(297,323 posts)ODS doesn't apply for nothin'.
SMC22307
(8,090 posts)Cha
(297,323 posts)That's just egregiously stupid.. and to quote geek tragedy here because he says it so well..
"Idiotic ODS drivel. No, Obama did not want those whose only goal is to derail his presidency
to control both houses of Congress.
He did not want Mitch McConnell having absolute power over each and every appointment of federal judges.
He does not want more votes on repealing the ACA.
He does not want Senate hearings on Benghazi."
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5780337
And, Yay.. we don't have to deal with that in the BOG!
geek http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5780337
Yeah, Obama isn't perfect by a long shot but I'm glad he's the President and I have his back.. especially from all the bullshite flyin' around here.
Old Nick
(468 posts)He's done a very good job, considering the GOP fuckwits he's had to deal with.
betsuni
(25,539 posts)The brains are wired for easy bainwashing.
onecaliberal
(32,864 posts)It's not his fault the corporate dems gave people nothing to vote for. It's not his fault that republicans suppressed the vote.
I voted, and I will never condone sitting out an election but a lot of people felt abandoned by the dems.
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uponit7771
(90,347 posts)For not fixing this guys 2 generations of screw ups in 5 years
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But I'm sure we all know that... just want to blame Obama
Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts)Like they can't remember who invaded Iraq, or was the President when Hurricane Katrina hit the Gulf Coast.
Unbelievable!!!