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JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 07:01 AM Nov 2014

Jon Stewart describes Democratic Party’s midterm strategy as ‘D*ckless H. Chickensh*t’

Jon Stewart said on Thursday’s Daily Show that Democrats’ midterm election strategy, flawed as it was, had historical roots.

“It’s a well-known political maneuver known as the Chickensh*t Gambit,” Stewart explained sarcastically. “It’s named, of course, for D*ckless H. Chickensh*t — who, when he was asked whether he supported the Emancipation Proclamation, famously said, ‘Huh? What? Huh?’ and then had to pretend to be hard of hearing for the rest of his life.”

Senate Democrats, Stewart said, tried to play a cynical game leading up to Tuesday’s midterm elections: they got President Barack Obama to agree with their strategy of holding off on votes regarding issues like immigration reform and the Keystone XL pipeline so that they could score political points by either ripping the issue or ripping Obama for the delay.

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Jon Stewart describes Democratic Party’s midterm strategy as ‘D*ckless H. Chickensh*t’ (Original Post) JonLP24 Nov 2014 OP
I'd love to see John Stewart as a campaign manager n/t BarackTheVote Nov 2014 #1
Lets face it Democrats did this in 2010 2012 and now 2014 and INdemo Nov 2014 #35
Hope someone in the Democratic leadership was listening liberal N proud Nov 2014 #2
of course not. why should they? losing has no adverse consequences for the careerists KG Nov 2014 #3
Well sure losing has an advantage. zeemike Nov 2014 #14
first step, kick debbie what's her name out of the chairmanship and hire howard dean. roguevalley Nov 2014 #27
You are making an assumption that they are not ok with the results of the election. rhett o rick Nov 2014 #38
lol you sound like my oldest son. n/t. okieinpain Nov 2014 #40
But you still believe the Emperor has clothes on. Will you feel the same rhett o rick Nov 2014 #44
Take a look at the Democrats that lost HoosierCowboy Nov 2014 #4
+1 Marr Nov 2014 #57
Stewart is right. Adrahil Nov 2014 #5
+10000000000 ReRe Nov 2014 #8
Exactly. Moondog Nov 2014 #32
Jon should get a Pulitzer for that, or at least a DUZY Demeter Nov 2014 #6
Another Stewart slam dunk blackspade Nov 2014 #7
Agreed, sadly. DinahMoeHum Nov 2014 #9
It's easy for us today to look back on history .... dawg Nov 2014 #10
lol! BenzoDia Nov 2014 #17
Hahahahaha pa28 Nov 2014 #25
Elect Chickenshit, get Chickenshit policy. [n/t] Maedhros Nov 2014 #36
+1 uponit7771 Nov 2014 #45
That's ol' Dickless on the right. Jackpine Radical Nov 2014 #61
Nailed it. ctsnowman Nov 2014 #11
hard not to agree with that. And sadly, we continue. Mass Nov 2014 #12
Issue turbinetree Nov 2014 #13
Gilbert which is pretty much Mesa also received the same title JonLP24 Nov 2014 #16
agreed, turbinetree hopemountain Nov 2014 #51
GOP strategy: Demos are Weak & Untrustworthy. Eleanors38 Nov 2014 #15
THEY ALL LOST! Le Taz Hot Nov 2014 #18
Having two parties is a horrendous waste of resources. Maedhros Nov 2014 #37
HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT Nov 2014 #19
For some reason, we prefer to elect weaklings to the House and Senate. True Blue Door Nov 2014 #20
Talk radio had clip of Jon Stewart.. kentuck Nov 2014 #21
It was in a CNN interview AndreaCG Nov 2014 #26
Every single word is true and I, for one, am ashamed of our Dickless H. Chickenshit ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2014 #22
He's right...they never learn, though, and we'll see Mr. Chickenshit joeybee12 Nov 2014 #23
Actual voters, average people, care about policy JEB Nov 2014 #24
Exactly. christx30 Nov 2014 #30
The Democrats abandoned Obama, maybe Obama should abandon them. Shoonra Nov 2014 #28
Tom Wolf, in PA was an exception (although the imcombent was highly unpopular). maddiemom Nov 2014 #60
On a side note Obama looking weary LiberalLovinLug Nov 2014 #29
You echo many of my sentiments. kicking navarth Nov 2014 #33
and thinner. his suit hopemountain Nov 2014 #46
Bravo, Mr. Stewart. bigwillq Nov 2014 #31
we dont even put up a good fight samsingh Nov 2014 #34
Glad Grimes is getting an earful for her fucking idiotcy. LawDeeDah Nov 2014 #39
So if Jon Stewart was her campaign manager NobodyHere Nov 2014 #41
the winning is in what you believe in LawDeeDah Nov 2014 #42
if she was that weak, someone else should hopemountain Nov 2014 #47
Yes, there is that. Election fraud, not voter fraud. LawDeeDah Nov 2014 #49
Her worst defeats were suffered in coal country so it didn't work anyways JonLP24 Nov 2014 #54
Yup. Snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. The Midway Rebel Nov 2014 #43
So was Stewart out there promoting his winning strategy before the election or is he only doing it n Township75 Nov 2014 #48
He is not into strategery, he's into comedianery. LawDeeDah Nov 2014 #50
So he isn't seriously criticizing the dem strategy this election and really has no thoughts about it Township75 Nov 2014 #52
He is not a strategist for the Democratic party. He is just doing his schtick. LawDeeDah Nov 2014 #53
And his twin brother -> D*ckless N Chickensh*t eom whereisjustice Nov 2014 #55
It was a pathetic campaign. Someone needs fired. I'll say it again: Can we get silvershadow Nov 2014 #56
And then they wonder why people won't bother to vote. Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2014 #58
Jon Stewart didn't vote. Major Hogwash Nov 2014 #59

INdemo

(6,994 posts)
35. Lets face it Democrats did this in 2010 2012 and now 2014 and
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 05:41 PM
Nov 2014

they say oh well we will just keep our mouth shut and we'll get 'em in 2016 and guess what they will get their ass kicked then because Democrats are about to nominate a candidate that eats from the same trough (Corporate campaign finance) as do the the real Republicans that actually declare their party.

KG

(28,751 posts)
3. of course not. why should they? losing has no adverse consequences for the careerists
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 07:50 AM
Nov 2014

they got stomped and nobody lost their jobs or has the dignity to resign.

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
14. Well sure losing has an advantage.
Reply to KG (Reply #3)
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 10:07 AM
Nov 2014

Because once you are out as a politician you can then go make some real money as a lobbyist or sit on the board of some big company and make some real money.
You are unlikely to see one of those who lost fall into poverty.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
38. You are making an assumption that they are not ok with the results of the election.
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 06:00 PM
Nov 2014

The Democratic leadership works for the same Ruling Oligarchs as the Republicans.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
44. But you still believe the Emperor has clothes on. Will you feel the same
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 08:32 PM
Nov 2014

when the TPP gets fast-tracked right up our nose?

HoosierCowboy

(561 posts)
4. Take a look at the Democrats that lost
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 08:15 AM
Nov 2014

With few exceptions they could be described as "Invertebrate DINOS for Business as Usual".

Candidates that couldn't stand up for basic principles of the Party and the President shouldn't get Democratic votes, that simple.

Most were elected in 2008 on Obamas coat tails in states not typically Democratic to begin with. Most voted with republicans while in office.

This was a culling of the Invertebrate DINOS.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
5. Stewart is right.
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 08:20 AM
Nov 2014

I don't get why people think Democrats can get elected by pretending to not be Democrats.

dawg

(10,624 posts)
10. It's easy for us today to look back on history ....
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 08:59 AM
Nov 2014

and criticize Senator Chickenshit and the people who voted him into office. But you should have seen the guy who was running against him. Chickenshit was clearly the lesser of the two evils.

Mass

(27,315 posts)
12. hard not to agree with that. And sadly, we continue.
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 10:05 AM
Nov 2014

Party assessment of the defeat: voters are stupid. This is going to help a lot in 2016.

turbinetree

(24,703 posts)
13. Issue
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 10:06 AM
Nov 2014

As democrat member of this party and a supporter of this party, it is time for this party to admit, that sometimes the politics has to take a back seat and you run on your accomplishments and the future accomplishments.
Our core values are to help people whenever we can and we need those individuals that will say what those accomplishments are to win, not every time, but you win.
We have got to learn to use or core values as a tactic ( Francis Perkins comes to mind in the FDR presidency and before) coupled with the fact what will happen if a republican gets into office, and that is to start in your city council, school boards, mayors, state legislature, governor , and then onto the federal level.

Maddow showed a statistic last night that was shocking, there are over 3,658 or more legislatives bodies in this country that are republican majority owned and its getting bigger, and on the democratic side it was less than 300, what does that tell you.
The trees are there we are standing in the forest letting this happen.
Gilbert , Arizona is the most conservative city in America and that town had three tea party hypocrites that were going or still in the process, going to rip pages out of a Biology book because it has abortion in the pages, this last election night those three board members were thrown out of office.
When people see what the issue is and what it really means we can win

Stewart is right in his observation of how democrats have become feckless, they have let the republican fear and hate machine dictate the terms, they go on shows that are so partisan already that when you have another republican debating with the democrat on the show the question is always geared to the republican response as being positive every time. Tweety's (Hardball) show is a prime example .
The democrat when in these formats should stay on message this is what we have done, what has your opponent done, nothing except spread fear and hate on everything, they have no answer, when challenged, none

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
16. Gilbert which is pretty much Mesa also received the same title
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 10:27 AM
Nov 2014

It’s enough to make one wonder: In the year 2014, can a major American city be—gasp—conservative? If you believe the results of a recent study from a couple of academic researchers at MIT and UCLA, you’d do well to look to the Southwest to find out. Mesa, Arizona, the researchers found, after analyzing more than a decade’s worth of public opinion surveys, is the most conservative American city of more than 250,000 residents, more conservative than such famously right-wing bastions as Oklahoma City and Colorado Springs. “On an overall basis,” says the boisterous Scott Smith, who was mayor of Mesa from 2008 until early this year, “there’s no doubt it’s extremely conservative.”

It might also be a glimpse of the GOP’s coming urban revival.

Squint, and you can see that Mesa is just one of several places where Republicans are creating a new model of conservatism for the post-Tea Party era, through an appealing blend of fiscal pragmatism and no-nonsense competence. Across the country, Republican cities are building new infrastructure and even embracing trendy liberal ideas like “new urbanism”—all while managing to keep costs in line and municipal workforces small and cost-effective. As the great, Democratic-run cities across the country—Chicago, Detroit, Los Angeles—face fiscal calamity, America’s conservative cities are showing that there’s another way.

Most of Mesa, despite its growing population of more than 450,000 (making it more populous than Pittsburgh, Atlanta, Miami and Minneapolis) hardly feels like a city at all. Located some 20 miles east of Phoenix, Mesa sprawls in every direction; at nearly 140 square miles, it covers roughly twice the area of Washington, D.C.

Mesa’s sprawling layout owes much to its history. The area began its modern existence as a Mormon settlement in the late 19th century, and it remained a small frontier community for much of its early years. The town’s population only broke into five digits in the 1940s, when fighter pilots began training for World War II combat at Mesa’s Falcon Field and the Williams Air Force Base—and, equally crucial, when air conditioning became widely available. Because it only really began to grow quickly in the 1940s and ’50s, Mesa followed the classic postwar development pattern most famously embodied by Levittown, New York: miles of modest, single family homes in subdivisions, wide boulevards meant for speedy driving and shopping centers boasting ample parking. In sum, the bulk of Mesa is quintessentially suburban. As former mayor Smith puts it, Mesa attracts those who think “being boring is OK.”

Read more: http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/09/mesa-arizona-are-conservative-cities-better-111069.html#ixzz3IOQAEqbw

Luckily redistricting helped the portion of Mesa I live in by represented by a Dem. The most common Mesa complaint is that it is boring.

hopemountain

(3,919 posts)
51. agreed, turbinetree
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 09:17 PM
Nov 2014

running for office & representing the people on ego or politics alone is porous. most people can see right through the facade. unless you are like the repugs who lie, cheat, obfuscate & bribe.

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
18. THEY ALL LOST!
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 10:54 AM
Nov 2014

Last edited Fri Nov 7, 2014, 12:18 PM - Edit history (1)

The blowback from Obama delaying immigration reform until after the election pissed off a whole LOT of Hispanics in my area, which I'm convinced, lowered the turnout among Hispanics in this last election. Andy why? To appease a few politicians from the Gut-Red South and . . . THEY ALL LOST! You want to tell me how that Third-Way strategy is workin' out for ya again, or better yet, why we should move farther to the right (yes, people are actually suggesting this on DU)?

 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
37. Having two parties is a horrendous waste of resources.
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 05:57 PM
Nov 2014

We should just have one. Think of all the money that can be saved from not having to run campaigns!

True Blue Door

(2,969 posts)
20. For some reason, we prefer to elect weaklings to the House and Senate.
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 12:04 PM
Nov 2014

Strength there would be a lot more effectual in significant numbers than in the White House.

Congress controls the budgets, folks.

kentuck

(111,103 posts)
21. Talk radio had clip of Jon Stewart..
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 12:08 PM
Nov 2014

...saying that he did not vote Tuesday? He said he was busy moving to another state.

Later, that night, he said he was being flip and apologized and said indeed he did vote on Tuesday.

But it was on right-wing radio which I listen to when I am driving. It helps keep me alert.

AndreaCG

(2,331 posts)
26. It was in a CNN interview
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 02:21 PM
Nov 2014

A very bad place to make such a joke without immediately saying "I'm joking!"

 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
22. Every single word is true and I, for one, am ashamed of our Dickless H. Chickenshit
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 12:09 PM
Nov 2014

party and those we put forth as our "leaders".

Fuck all of them. Fucking chickenshits.

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
23. He's right...they never learn, though, and we'll see Mr. Chickenshit
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 12:10 PM
Nov 2014

taking the reins of far too many campaigns in the future.

 

JEB

(4,748 posts)
24. Actual voters, average people, care about policy
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 12:16 PM
Nov 2014

( immigration, economy, fairness, clean environment etc.) much more than political gamesmanship. Fucking stand up for something. If they need a role model, look at Bernie Sanders.

christx30

(6,241 posts)
30. Exactly.
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 04:35 PM
Nov 2014

Why should a voter get out of bed and go to the poll if nothing is going to change and nothing is going to get done?
Stand up for something, or you find yourself out of a job.
The GOP is pressing forward with lawsuits against ACA and abortion and getting stopping gay marriage. What are our leaders doing? Anything? Just more 15th level chess?

Shoonra

(523 posts)
28. The Democrats abandoned Obama, maybe Obama should abandon them.
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 04:31 PM
Nov 2014

It was truly shameful how so many Democratic candidates (and incumbents seeking re-election) distanced themselves from, and even denounced, Pres. Obama.

Now that the Democrats still in Congress are mostly ornamental and ineffectual, it would serve them right if Obama distanced himself from them and embraced the Republican leadership as warmly as can be managed.

maddiemom

(5,106 posts)
60. Tom Wolf, in PA was an exception (although the imcombent was highly unpopular).
Sat Nov 8, 2014, 06:41 AM
Nov 2014

Appearing in Philly (Temple U.) just before the election Wolf and Obama had a rousing welcome.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,174 posts)
29. On a side note Obama looking weary
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 04:33 PM
Nov 2014

Is it just me or does he look increasingly worn down and grumpy.

I just hope, HOPE, that some of that weariness is an inner realization that his third way (more like 4th way) approach and shutting out the progressive wing of his party may have been a huge mistake. Together with his negotiation method of card playing of folding before one round had happened in hopes that the other side would throw him a chip or two, his catering to Wall Street and protecting them from prosecution, his appointments to high positions going to Republicans, his decision to only listen to corporate shills for advice in his inner circle from Rahm on down, and his laziness or fear of using the bully pulpit to explain the very real benefits of things like the ACA, flawed though it is.

One of the greatest orators in the line of Presidents ever seemingly refused to take advantage of it to actually explain his and fellow Democrats accomplishments. I'm sure I'm not alone in having much higher expectations of having a real communicator-in-chief for a CHANGE, after that brilliant "no blue states, no red states, but the United States" speech in the convention before he ran, and also the many great speeches he gave in his actual run and then the awesome election night acceptance speech.

As Bernie Sanders said:

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/217668-sanders-obama-should-use-bully-pulpit-more

Speaking on NBC’s “Meet the Press,” Sanders said while the president “has done some very good things” and “the level of obstructionism that he has had to face has been unprecedented,” Obama should’ve been more aggressive in using the bully pulpit.

“I think he should’ve understood from day one that the Republicans were not going to cooperate with him. I think he should’ve gone to the people in a more aggressive way” and issued a call to action for supporters of the minimum wage increase to descend on Washington, he said.

He “just can’t sit in a room and negotiate with people who refuse to negotiate,” Sanders added.


If he had been more "aggressive" in that way, even DINO Dems would have had to think twice about slagging him in their own ridings.

hopemountain

(3,919 posts)
46. and thinner. his suit
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 09:06 PM
Nov 2014

during the press conference was hanging around his shoulders. they flicked him off like a booger and they couldn't do it fast enough. fucking cowards. did they even once stop to think about the people who elected them?

 

LawDeeDah

(1,596 posts)
39. Glad Grimes is getting an earful for her fucking idiotcy.
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 06:01 PM
Nov 2014

Or her truly disgusting non thinking and following orders from some idiotic fucker.

 

NobodyHere

(2,810 posts)
41. So if Jon Stewart was her campaign manager
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 06:40 PM
Nov 2014

and embraced everything Obama did, do you seriously think she would've won?

 

LawDeeDah

(1,596 posts)
42. the winning is in what you believe in
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 06:51 PM
Nov 2014

losing with honor is better than losing as a coward.

does no one remember this shit anymore?

hopemountain

(3,919 posts)
47. if she was that weak, someone else should
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 09:08 PM
Nov 2014

have been the dem candidate. furthermore, i agree with rachel maddow. something fishy about the polls showing her ahead of mitch only a few days before the election and then poof! he wins by such a large margin.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
54. Her worst defeats were suffered in coal country so it didn't work anyways
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 11:44 PM
Nov 2014

Should have embraced Kynect which is popular in Kentucky but avoid calling it "Obamacare".

The Midway Rebel

(2,191 posts)
43. Yup. Snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 07:52 PM
Nov 2014

In my area the Democrats got swift boated by their association with Obama and they just played along and did nothing to fight back and own the administration's success and hit back with the GOP obstructionism.

Township75

(3,535 posts)
48. So was Stewart out there promoting his winning strategy before the election or is he only doing it n
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 09:13 PM
Nov 2014

After he results are in and he has 20-20 hindsight? Don't watch him so don't know.

 

LawDeeDah

(1,596 posts)
53. He is not a strategist for the Democratic party. He is just doing his schtick.
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 10:54 PM
Nov 2014

And sometimes it's absolutely right on.

What exactly do you expect of him? I forgot your question/angst.

 

silvershadow

(10,336 posts)
56. It was a pathetic campaign. Someone needs fired. I'll say it again: Can we get
Sat Nov 8, 2014, 03:24 AM
Nov 2014

Dr. Dean back please? I'm truly thinking of leaving the party, and I've been a stalwart for decades now.

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
59. Jon Stewart didn't vote.
Sat Nov 8, 2014, 05:42 AM
Nov 2014

He said that he had recently moved. and that he didn't have time to register to vote.

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