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berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 11:54 AM Nov 2014

It's Pretty Fucking Simple Why The Dems Who Ran Away From the President Lost

If you say you're a Democrat but you don't necessarily like the President, or his policies, no one is going to believe that you are going to go back to Washington D.C. and vote against the President's policies or agenda. That simply is, on its face, not believable. A party that runs from its own president during an election year isn't going to be believed by either side when they say this.

Maybe there was a day and an age where that worked. Goldwater Republicans, Dixiecrats, etc.

But that isn't the system we have today.

And if you try to sell it, you'll disenfranchise your own base while looking like a snake oil salesmen to the other side. That should be the lesson learned.

It's pretty fucking simple.

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It's Pretty Fucking Simple Why The Dems Who Ran Away From the President Lost (Original Post) berni_mccoy Nov 2014 OP
Concern trolls shenmue Nov 2014 #1
"Run away from your twice elected President", must have been really inspiring to the liberal minded. Fred Sanders Nov 2014 #2
nailed it Mr Dixon Nov 2014 #4
Yup n/t BarackTheVote Nov 2014 #17
+1000 MoonRiver Nov 2014 #18
Bravo JustAnotherGen Nov 2014 #26
A couple of good articles on this topic: marions ghost Nov 2014 #3
Fucking unbelievable strategy....fucking must have been the fucking plan to sabotage Obama, what Fred Sanders Nov 2014 #6
Yeah "idiotic strategy"... marions ghost Nov 2014 #8
Awesome analysis SmittynMo Nov 2014 #12
I will too for now. He has got to stand up to them. nt kelliekat44 Nov 2014 #21
It didn't work for Al Gore to run away from a blow job bigbrother05 Nov 2014 #24
Perfect. MoonchildCA Nov 2014 #9
+++ marions ghost Nov 2014 #23
R#3 & K for, Charles P. PIERCE said it: UTUSN Nov 2014 #5
I found this toon to be appropriate n2doc Nov 2014 #7
yep heaven05 Nov 2014 #10
It was the third way strategy RobertEarl Nov 2014 #11
We need people who are loyal to the party ideals Kingofalldems Nov 2014 #13
The problem is that voters can't tell what Democratic ideals are anymore.[n/t] Maedhros Nov 2014 #14
It's simple - the stance between normalcy and whatever the GOP wants. closeupready Nov 2014 #19
"The American President" may be a mediocre film, but it's full of spot-on quotes. Maedhros Nov 2014 #25
Mary Burke ran open armed TOWARD Obama...and LOST HereSince1628 Nov 2014 #15
Democrats lost and the bad part? TRoN33 Nov 2014 #16
It was simple. The ones who didn't want him were running in competitive races LittleBlue Nov 2014 #20
It sure is simple Android3.14 Nov 2014 #22
A caller to the Diane Rehm show said his neighbors, who are black, didn't vote because Vinca Nov 2014 #27
Exactly! Show some integrity for Dog's sake! MoonRiver Nov 2014 #28
True dat. berni_mccoy Nov 2014 #29

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
2. "Run away from your twice elected President", must have been really inspiring to the liberal minded.
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 11:58 AM
Nov 2014

Run away from your black President while begging black folk to vote for you, WTF?

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
3. A couple of good articles on this topic:
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 11:59 AM
Nov 2014
http://www.forwardprogressives.com/dear-democratic-party-make-mistake-republicans-didnt-win-lost/

http://www.forwardprogressives.com/reality-check-democrats-republicans-sell-lies-better-tell-truth/

"I’m not sure what jackasses controlling the Democratic party decided that they needed to run away from the president, but I hope all their asses are fired. I’ve never been more ashamed to be a Democrat than I was during this election. I’m a fighter; I might lose, but I damn sure won’t lose selling out to fear. I’ll stand by my conviction, what it is I believe in and if I lose, so be it. At the end of the day I lost fighting for my beliefs and staying true to myself.

Democrats lost running away from one of the most successful presidents in modern history because they didn’t have the internal fortitude to stand up and fight, proudly informing the American people of all the great things that have been accomplished these last 6 years.

If President Obama were a Republican, Americans wouldn’t be “worried about the economy” because Republicans wouldn’t be shutting up about its successes. And perhaps the saddest part of all of this is that most Americans don’t know about most of the achievements of the Obama administration I just listed. And you know why they don’t know about them? Because Democrats are too weak to stand up and proudly profess that yes, we did all of that.

There’s no way in hell Republicans wouldn’t stand proudly, even arrogantly, next to one of their presidents if they had created over 10 million jobs (and counting) and they were the Commander-in-Chief who found and authorized the killing of the man responsible for nearly 3,000 deaths and the greatest terrorist attack on our nation’s soil."

- See more at: http://www.forwardprogressives.com/dear-democratic-party-make-mistake-republicans-didnt-win-lost/#sthash.ipOp4nec.dpuf

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
6. Fucking unbelievable strategy....fucking must have been the fucking plan to sabotage Obama, what
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 12:30 PM
Nov 2014

else makes any fucking sense? Look at the fucking employment numbers today? Gas prices? The stock market? The deficit and debt?

Fucking ChuckTodd was fucking right about Grimes....

Fuck. And even Democratics bought the "plunging approval" when there was factually no fucking thing...it had to be a plan....now only the black man in the White House stands in the fucking way of Christocorpfukuistan.

I am going to 100% behind the President on every fucking thing he does, every fucking thing, he deserves no less after all this fucking idiocy of strategy amounting to treason and sabotage.

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
8. Yeah "idiotic strategy"...
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 12:52 PM
Nov 2014

tho I don't think they were trying to sabotage Obama so much as keep their seats (or get elected), it backfired BIGtime. HISTORIC mistake. The Repugs are ecstatic that they caved. I'm seeing it pretty clearly today. Yeah Obama didn't deserve this--you want to run on the POSITIVES regardless of the spin and attacks.

"Christocorpfukistan." Not an exaggeration Yeah I think we better have BHO's back.

bigbrother05

(5,995 posts)
24. It didn't work for Al Gore to run away from a blow job
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 03:03 PM
Nov 2014

How the hell did they think running away from the guy that saved the economy, rescued the auto industry, and gave millions affordable health care made any sense?

Why on earth would you want to take the advice of the very folks that want to see you fail and hurt the people you are trying to help?

UTUSN

(70,711 posts)
5. R#3 & K for, Charles P. PIERCE said it:
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 12:19 PM
Nov 2014

[font size=5]"How much worse could it possibly have been for all of them had they stood by the president and his record?"[/font]--Charles P. PIERCE, http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/Election_Night_2014
 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
11. It was the third way strategy
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 02:08 PM
Nov 2014

They did not want Obama's promise of empowering the people to be a winner.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
19. It's simple - the stance between normalcy and whatever the GOP wants.
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 02:41 PM
Nov 2014

Which makes the GOP's plan VERY easy to map out - whatever you want, advocate for THAT x 2.

 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
25. "The American President" may be a mediocre film, but it's full of spot-on quotes.
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 03:03 PM
Nov 2014

Such as this (paraphrased):

Lewis Rothschild: They don't have a choice! (The Republicans are) the only ones doing the talking! People want leadership, Mr. President, and in the absence of genuine leadership, they'll listen to anyone who steps up to the microphone. They want leadership. They're so thirsty for it they'll crawl through the desert toward a mirage, and when they discover there's no water, they'll drink the sand.
 

TRoN33

(769 posts)
16. Democrats lost and the bad part?
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 02:35 PM
Nov 2014

Democrats in D.C. are seriously considering to drop Progressives and Liberals. It's rephensible that they lost by ran away from Obama then blame it on voters. Those who are considering dropping progressives and liberals need to be fucking kicked out of party. I can't stand them.

I'm not a Democrat anymore but I'm becoming much deeper into left than ever. Im not going to vote for lesser of two evils if Hillary become Democratic front runner because I want my vote to mean something which is to work for Real Americans, the middle class and poor class. I want my vote to prevent killing of Muslims. I want my vote to raise the fuckin taxes on the rich people. I want my vote to push for strictest regulations on wall st. I want my vote to actually help and heal Mother Nature.

Hillary? Forget it. She's the corporationist who will make rich people happy and sleep soundly in nights while it's going to be nightmare for rest of Real Americans.

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
20. It was simple. The ones who didn't want him were running in competitive races
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 02:47 PM
Nov 2014

In strong blue states, there was no political price to be paid. This could have been predicted months ago using basic logic.



Go to 0:51

Although I do recall Hagan putting out an Obama radio advert. She, of course, lost.

Vinca

(50,279 posts)
27. A caller to the Diane Rehm show said his neighbors, who are black, didn't vote because
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 03:09 PM
Nov 2014

they felt the Democratic candidate was disrespectful of the POTUS by wanting nothing to do with him or his policies. From what they said on the show, minority voting was much lower than anticipated and maybe that's one reason. Democrats should have proudly touted all the good things Obama has done. If you're going to lose, at least go down fighting for what the party supposedly believes in.

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