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Takket

(21,578 posts)
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 12:02 PM Nov 2014

Hillary making dems lose?

I just saw a rethug claim all the senate dems Hillary campaigned for lost and this meant American doesn't want her. Is that true? I don't have a clue who she did or didn't campaign for but even if I did I find it hard to believe her presence lost more goes than it gained.

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MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
1. Uh, no. Hillary Clinton came to Minnesota to campaign for both
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 12:04 PM
Nov 2014

Al Franken and our Governor Dayton. Both won their elections handily. I'm not saying they won because of Hillary, but they did win. Your Republican friend is full of crap.

 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
3. Did anyone else she endorsed win? Your senator and governor would have
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 12:06 PM
Nov 2014

won without her so that they won really isn't representative of her, and her benefactors', success.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
7. She campaigned for 25 candidates and 12 won...
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 12:11 PM
Nov 2014

She campaigned for 25 candidates and 12 won, but only in a parallel universe was this election a referendum on her.

 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
8. Since you have the info handy, could you copy and paste the names of those who
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 12:13 PM
Nov 2014

won?

I believe you. I just haven't had the stomach to dig out the results and put myself through our ass-stomping yet again so, I admit, I am shy a little information.

wyldwolf

(43,867 posts)
11. on the other hand, Elizabeth Warren's win/loss ratio wasn't too impressive, either.
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 12:26 PM
Nov 2014

She also stumped for Grimes




DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
12. I think the last Dem to represent KY in the Senate was Dee Huddleston
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 12:29 PM
Nov 2014

That was when The Police were topping the charts.

wyldwolf

(43,867 posts)
14. if people are seriously saying Hillary caused Dems to lose because she stumped for them...
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 12:32 PM
Nov 2014

... we also have to point out that Warren stumped for, among others, Bruce Baily and Martha Coakley, both losers in races they should have won.

Just sayin'

meadowlark5

(2,795 posts)
4. I doubt it
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 12:07 PM
Nov 2014

Someone here posted the turnout numbers for this election and it was 40% of registered voters, or 19.6% of the entire population. Well how much of that percentage was the conservatives/republicans? We know they'll be out to vote come hell or high water. Only 12% of people under 30 voted. The numbers were pretty bad and we all know that benefits republicans.

And geographically, dems were at a disadvantage anyway. Pretty tough for a dem to get elected in a blood red state. Ideology and party loyalty is hard to bust through.

True Blue Door

(2,969 posts)
6. I don't want Clinton, but that's a call for the primary.
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 12:08 PM
Nov 2014

If we are pathetic enough to nominate her for lack of a better candidate, then I shut the fuck up and become her soldier - right up to the moment she inevitably throws away all advantages for no reason and loses the election.

rock

(13,218 posts)
16. Now listen close (I may ramble)
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 12:41 PM
Nov 2014

Presidential elections and congressional elections work entirely differently. Your vote may be swamped in a Congressional election but it has a much greater chance of be pivotal for the the presidential race. Therefore a voter is much more likely to want to vote in the presidential race. Not voting in the congressional race where he feels his vote will be lost (example: a heavily gerrymandered district) doesn't indicate much. The rethug is full of shit as expected.

Beacool

(30,250 posts)
17. That was Rand Paul.
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 12:50 PM
Nov 2014

He has a burr on his backside for Hillary. He's the real loser, he'll never be president. The midterms had zero to do with Hillary. Obviously she and Bill campaigned for Democrats, but Jesus himself could have shown up to campaign for some of these people and they still would have lost. It is what it is...........

Here's an article about Paul's taunts:

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2014/11/05/Rand-Paul-taunts-Hillary-Clinton-on-social-media-over-midterm-results/8541415191668/


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