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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHere are the odds for the 2016 Republican Presidential Nomination
http://www.predictwise.com/politics/2016RepNominationWho do we want to run against?
still_one
(92,242 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)still_one
(92,242 posts)yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)I am not being racist at all. In fact, I would love the Democratic nominee to speak Spanish. I worry if Bush, Rubio, Cruz gets the nomination. I don't care how crazy we think they are. I saw Rubio in a big auditorium with 10s of thousands of Hispanics speaking to them in Spanish and they loved him. We need to be very careful on our hopes of who the Republican nominee is.
onehandle
(51,122 posts)Hillary will dispatch him, handily.
However many Latinos might go for Rubio, because he is 'Latino.'
Careful...
Ink Man
(171 posts)Please don't lump all Spanish speaking people together. I live in So Cal and Mexicans don't like Cubans. The Mexicans think the Cubans look down on them.
onehandle
(51,122 posts)Perception can make for bias.
JustAnotherGen
(31,828 posts)I can't even take it seriously -
You are looking at Bush, Paul, Portman, - maybe Christie - and one that I think is not on there at all.
Really - Nikki Haley run for President and get anywhere near the nomination from her Party? Marco Rubio for that matter who is pretty much detested by his fellow elected Pubs but not the people who vote for him? Jindal - nope nope nope - he's too 'foreign' for them.
Now I could see Martinez or Rice as a running mate. . .
BlueStater
(7,596 posts)I don't even know why he's still considered at this point.
Mass
(27,315 posts)Both will have a contract on Fox.
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)...but the baggers would never approve of him, so his nomination or lack thereof will be safe.
I have a strong suspicion that the Baggers are emboldened and think that this whole midterm was a referendum on their governing policies...and they will fight for a very wild eyed conservative. it will be their undoing.
JustAnotherGen
(31,828 posts)The big money people in politics won't approve of him either.
He ripped the bandaid off of the Republican party - as late as last month. Unless . . .
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)that should hurt more than help any Republican vying for office.
Let him screw with them. He has plenty of money, he really doens't need the job, but he dislikes their current tack.
JustAnotherGen
(31,828 posts)I think he might take them off guard late next year - see what kind of 2K to 10K donors No Labels gets.
merrily
(45,251 posts)Nay
(12,051 posts)the end game in a sclerotic, last-gasp semi-democracy. Bush-Clinton? Really? That's all we have, out of 350 million people? It's the end, folks.
merrily
(45,251 posts)it's time for the Presidency to stop being in the hands of a few families. Ya think?
I am not kidding. The Adams men were one thing. The population was a lot less then and people saw public service as a sacrifice, not as hitting the lottery. I would not have minded President Ted Kennedy instead of Reagan. The Bush-Bush thing was a mega mistake.
One more attempt at making the Oval Office a family business, though, and I will have to give emigrating very serious consideration, but most especially if it's Clinton Bush.
Nay
(12,051 posts)though I do have Canadian citizenship as well. Frankly, I'd love to live in Canada and I rue the day, way back when, when we decided to stay in this godforsaken country.
merrily
(45,251 posts)Maybe your grandbaby will take your mind off politics.
You have to think ahead. When my son was an infant, he had some asthma. I practically bronzed the medical records of that, in case anyone ever tried to draft him. (Yes, I know it's abolished, but the same people who abolished it can reinstate it)
Now, he has only allergies, but that's living in places like Boston and L.A. Who knows what might happen if they plunked him into some rural area? So, I hang onto those records for dear life. O
Nay
(12,051 posts)grandma leave that??? Well, she can't......he lives 3 blocks away and I see him often.
merrily
(45,251 posts)Runningdawg
(4,520 posts)if we end up with a Clinton/Bush ticket. But DAMN seeing those 2 names together will convince some of the people on the fence that elections are a sham and their vote doesn't matter. The same 2 OLD names on a ballot wont't motivate the new voters. For the first time I will truly feel my vote for a Dem is the lesser of 2 evils and not a vote of confidence.
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)wandy
(3,539 posts)NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)Too bad Hunter Thompson had his remains shot into space, else we could reanimate him for some good commentary
AlinPA
(15,071 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)Romney was very much suspected, for his religion and for his record as Governor of Massachusetts. (For one thing, he actually appointed a Democrat to the bench.) Also, in 1994, he had run against Kennedy as pro-choice. (Or, as Kennedy said: "He was anti-choice, he was pro-choice, he was multiple choice.)
That's the thing with Republicans like Romney and Brown who try to have it every which way in a blue state. It doesn't win over Democrats, but it puts off Republicans.
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,184 posts)Really?
Textbook insanity if that's the case.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)Proud Public Servant
(2,097 posts)Man from Pickens
(1,713 posts)Bush, Paul, Walker, Romney, Christie, and Cruz.
I specifically do not include Rubio because he is seriously junior-league and it shows.
Cruz would be the biggest gamble on their part. That's the all-in conservative-nationalist option. I have a feeling he's more inclined to go for Senate leadership than take the plunge, though.
The difficulty of Bush as an opponent will vary depending on our nominee. If our nominee is another Clinton, then we lose a major advantage in running against another Bush. I think the reverse is true as well, if we nominate Clinton, the GOP will get the benefit of the "sick of yesterday's politicians" theme. Either party that makes the mistake of recycling last decade's politicians will pay big for it if the other does not make that mistake. Bush vs. someone-besides-Clinton is probably one of our best potential matchups.
Walker is probably the most difficult opponent to face. Paul would be a wildcard and would likely shake up the existing political alignment the most and create the most difficult-to-predict outcome. Romney might be viewed as a relatively safe option, his campaign would be to Obama-buyer's remorse. Christie I think is similar to Walker but weaker.